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The Pornographers vs. The Pirates

conq writes "BusinessWeek has a piece on how pornography is again leading the way and showing Holywood how to fight back against piracy. From the article: 'Some producers of porn are starting to share revenues from online movies with the distributors of their DVDs, who might otherwise feel endangered by digital distribution online. Bolder yet, one large studio is allowing fans who buy movies online to burn them from their computers onto DVDs, with some protections included, of course.'"

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  1. The naked truth... by jkrise · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People who love porn would not mind DRM or any other restrictive technology - most porn lovers don't wish to have their names advertised, and a bit of money is not an issue.

    Not so with what the RIAA calls Pirates.

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    1. Re:The naked truth... by Hillie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sorry but I have to disagree, whether it be porn or anything else DRM leaves you feeling cheap and used.

      Now nevermind the thousands of inuendos and puns that statement may suggest. The fact is that no one wants to pay any amount of money per month on some site that lets you download content, if the content is going to stop working when you quit paying that site money.

      Whether that content is porn or music. There are millions of people who would pay a $3.95 trial to buy the ONE song they've been lookin for but unable to find elsewhere or that video they got spammed with that peaked their interest.

      With the DRM ripoff schemes of RIAA and some porn sites this is not possible. So let's say you were a member of any music/porn site that used DRM on their files. Restrictive DRM.. you paid a total of maybe $200 to them and you decide you don't want the service anymore, but you do like what you've gotten so far. You quit you're screwed.. so you're telling me I gotta keep paying to keep what I ALREADY PAID FOR?

      No thanks. *gives RIAA the finger*

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  2. It isn't needed. by Lave · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I doubt there is anything with a higher pirated/legit ratio than porn.

    I know no-one who has bought porn - but everyone has watched it.

    Why hasn't porn gone bust like the movie and music industries say will happen to them?

    If a legitimate market can keep porn afloat an inherently embarrassing purchase - then everything else doesn't need to worry

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    1. Re:It isn't needed. by LoonyMike · · Score: 5, Insightful

      SPAM also has a low clicks/emails rate (I think), but the few clicks are enough to make it profitable.
      Low-budget porn movies might also need a relatively small number of sales to make money, even if they are massively pirated.

    2. Re:It isn't needed. by Eivind · · Score: 5, Insightful
      You mean you know noone who will admit to having bougth porn.... Not the same thing.

      Besides, porn movies are embarassingly low-budget. What counts as a "high budget" porn-movie doesn't even show up on the radar for budgeting normal movies. And some of the low-budget porn-movies have budgets down in the 4-digits range.

      You don't need to sell an awful lot to make a profit if your total budget is less than a years salary.

    3. Re:It isn't needed. by oliverthered · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'll quite happly wath the low budget films from the 70s so why are modern movie budgets so high? Maybe the movie industry should sort out their cost problems first if the're having problems making a profit.

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  3. Coz They Cant Lobby by ikejam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it has more to do with the fact that since no politican can afford to be seen lobbied by a porn cartel, they have to come up with fairer solutions...

  4. Will they really tell you? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you think your father will openly tell you that just last week he purchased a subscription to this fantastic bondage porno site? Do you think your boss will tell you that ten minutes ago, between meetings with clients, he spent $19.95 for the "Girls Gone Crazy: Kansas City!" and "Eugenia's Booby Paradise" video combo he saw advertised on TV last night? Do you think that the Republican senator who just rallied against sexuality in video games, and who also just bought some photos of girls fellating horses, will let you know? Probably not.

    Then again, you likely don't understand the true size of the market. Even if they have a 99% piracy rate, that 1% of sales is so much that they're all very well off.

  5. Bigger Business by pianoman113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pornography has always been a huge business, and they have always been on the bleeding edge of technology. Look at the internet. Long before their was the World Wide Web there were dial-in BBS's where people could download pornography. When VCRs came out, pornography was almost immediately available on video cassettes.
    The pornography business' profit margin is much higher and that allows them much more freedom to innovate in their distribution. That, and they have no doubt that people will continue to consume their product.
    I doubt they'll ever eliminate the pirates, but they will lead the way technologically for flexible video distribution.

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  6. World peace by Roy+van+Rijn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The biggest advances in internet technology are made because of porn, file-sharing, P2P, search engines, image formats (more porn per mb), movie encryption etc.

    But there is one thing I don't believe, Porn isn't going to stop piracy, it created it! (One of the best things on the web!)
    If porn proves to be the key in stopping piracy, then I truly think porn will create world peace...

    And... why burn on DVD for personal use...???
    Isn't porn something you only watch once, you know the whole story and get bored? Isn't that the whole reason we watch porn, because the same woman every night bores us!?

  7. What does it say about the human race by forgotten_my_nick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    when all our advances in technology can be linked to porn or the military?