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How iTunes Hurts Weird Al

Johnny X writes "Weird Al Yankovic recently said he makes far less money when you buy from iTunes than when you buy an actual CD. This guy did the math and showed that Weird Al could be losing up to 85% of his record sales income due to the 'weird' ways the record companies compute digital sales. Are all artists getting the shaft like this?"

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  1. Re:eat it eat it by Sancho · · Score: 4, Informative

    He didn't seem to be complaining. He merely said he didn't understand why they want to take more out when there are fewer distribution costs.

  2. RTFA by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Informative
    I am extremely grateful for your support, no matter which format you choose to legally obtain my music in, so you should do whatever makes the most sense for you personally. But since you ASKED
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  3. Read it on "Wierd Al's" actual website by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Submitter's (?) blog references this, but here is Weird's Al's website where he actually talks about it ... his response on this topic is the 4th bold one down.

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  4. Re:So what's new? by kimvette · · Score: 4, Informative
    Pretty soon, the artists will have to PAY the record companies for the priviledge of getting screwed.


    They already do, actually. Read up on record contracts sometime. Many artists end up in massive debt due to their contracts and have to tour endlessly to pay it off. Fuck major labels. I'd trust Satan before I trust a record label.
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  5. Re:The Shaft by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 5, Informative

    Musicians will continue to "get the shaft" as long as they rely on majors.

    One of the best references on the subject: Courtney Love Does The Math.

  6. Re:New name by sketerpot · · Score: 4, Informative
    Fuck you, asshole. Here's what Weird Al actually said:
    Tim Sloane of Ijamsville, MD asks: Al, which of these purchasing methods should I use in order to make sure the most profit gets to you: Buying one of your albums on CD, or buying one of your albums on iTunes? I am extremely grateful for your support, no matter which format you choose to legally obtain my music in, so you should do whatever makes the most sense for you personally. But since you ASKED... I actually do get significantly more money from CD sales, as opposed to downloads. This is the one thing about my renegotiated record contract that never made much sense to me. It costs the label NOTHING for somebody to download an album (no manufacturing costs, shipping, or really any overhead of any kind) and yet the artist (me) winds up making less from it. Go figure.

    He's not the greedy one here.

  7. Re:The Shaft by Poppler · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would also recommend Steve Albini's piece The Problem With Music.

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  8. Re:And if you want to be really charitable by The+Vulture · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nope.

    In fact, by even posting it on Slashdot, they've pretty much ensured that Weird Al would never make the song.

    From the FAQ section of his site (http://www.weirdal.com/faq.htm):
    "Can I send my song ideas to Al?

    Sorry, for legal and personal reasons, Al does not accept song ideas from fans (he's got plenty warped ideas on his own!) You might try following in Al's footsteps by recording your songs and sending them to Dr. Demento - maybe you'll hear yourself on the radio!"

    I've never met him, but I'm told that he's a really cool guy (a family member of mine who was working security at one of his shows talked to him for a bit). And of course, being the diehard fan that I am, I have quite a few of his albums.

    -- Joe

  9. Re:Still getting the raw end of the deal? by Babbster · · Score: 4, Informative
    Forget the RIAA, Weird Al's record label is definately the entity in charge.

    It's kind of funny that the names of the companies involved haven't been mentioned, so I'll go ahead and do that: Al's current label is "Volcano" which is owned by "Zomba" which is owned by "BMG" which, of course, is part of the "Sony/BMG" ubercorporation...OMGWTFBBQ, I just realized! This is yet another anti-Sony story!
  10. Re:Still getting the raw end of the deal? by DashEvil · · Score: 4, Informative

    1) Great Singer
    2) Very clever paraodies.
    3) Albums contain a slew of hilarious original songs as well.

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  11. Have you ever seen a record contract? by SonicSpike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Have you ever seen a record contract? I work in the recording industry and I have.

    They are usually about 70-90 pages of small print which are "the result of the accumulation of thousands of lawsuits through the years".

    These contracts are written to minimize liability for the label and obviously maximize return. However, there is always a "this contract applies to any current, future, or past medium of distribution, seen or unforeseen etc..." clause written in. It is up to the artist and his attorney to negotiate that out of the contract if they feel the need to.

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  12. dubious argument by kirk__243 · · Score: 3, Informative
    What nonsense. The blogger 'did the math' based on dubious figures gathered from other artist's notably unfair record deals.

    He's just lifted http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnews/wpn-60-2 0060428SonyBMGInDigitalMusicTrouble.html and replaced the 'Allman Brothers' with 'Weird Al'.

    Artist royalties are generally standardised as a percentage of revenue that the label receives. If you're a big artist with some clout you can negotiate a better deal, but almost all artists will get a basic, low royalty deal. But it is based on record company revenues.

    Of the couple of musicians I personally know with songs on iTunes and cds stocked in local stores, they firmly recommend that people buy through iTunes. This is solely because they will receive more money from each purchase - that is the lure with which labels have been drawn to iTunes. Weird Al might have negotiated himself a great deal for physical sales and a poor deal for digital, but on a basic / generic record contract the artist will assuredly get more from iTunes.

    Weird Al is probably losing out on selling his filler tracks. On iTunes people often only buy a couple of tracks, rather than the full album. And that is truly the only way that an artist can lose on iTunes.

  13. Re:Still getting the raw end of the deal? by colmore · · Score: 4, Informative

    Musicians are not typically very business savvy people. There are exceptions of course, but it's a general rule. Even a successful musician is unlikely to be able to afford more than one lawyer and one accountant. The labels on the other hand have vast teams of people insuring that they squeeze every cent out of their talent and customers. The record industry has been pulling this kind of sneaky contract shit since the 20s to rip off talent.

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  14. Re:Still getting the raw end of the deal? by hburch · · Score: 3, Informative
    Weird Al said that he did not understand the reason that the contract was written to get him less money from online sales. He did not say he did not understand the contract, but rather the reasoning for it. In his words:
    This is the one thing about my renegotiated record contract that never made much sense to me. It costs the label NOTHING for somebody to download an album (no manufacturing costs, shipping, or really any overhead of any kind) and yet the artist (me) winds up making less from it. Go figure.