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How iTunes Hurts Weird Al

Johnny X writes "Weird Al Yankovic recently said he makes far less money when you buy from iTunes than when you buy an actual CD. This guy did the math and showed that Weird Al could be losing up to 85% of his record sales income due to the 'weird' ways the record companies compute digital sales. Are all artists getting the shaft like this?"

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  1. Time for a new song by Flimzy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds like a good opporitunity to write an R.E.M. parody... "Losing my Commission"

    1. Re:Time for a new song by Sentri · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...
      That's me on their ipod
      That's me on i - tunes
      Losing my comission
      Trying to keep up with tech
      And I don't know if you can do it
      Oh no you took too much
      I haven't got enough
      I thought that I heard price-fixing
      I thought that I heard you steal
      I think I thought I got ripped off ...

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  2. So what's new? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Record companies find ways to give artists even less money. You knew it was going to happen. To the record companies, it is not about the music, but the money. Since the early days in the 50's they have been writing draconian contracts, then stealing the copyrights from the artists (remember the "musicians are craftsmen not artists" argument they were throwing around) and now this. Pretty soon, the artists will have to PAY the record companies for the priviledge of getting screwed.

    1. Re:So what's new? by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

      Satan runs a record label.

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  3. RTFA by Chuck+Chunder · · Score: 5, Informative
    I am extremely grateful for your support, no matter which format you choose to legally obtain my music in, so you should do whatever makes the most sense for you personally. But since you ASKED
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  4. Read it on "Wierd Al's" actual website by xmas2003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Submitter's (?) blog references this, but here is Weird's Al's website where he actually talks about it ... his response on this topic is the 4th bold one down.

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  5. Community based business model? by Marsmensch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember reading a UNDP report a while back on the development of countries in Africa. The researchers observed that the international market prices of commodities such as coffee or sugar were higher then than at any time in the past, and yet in the last few years the prices payed to the small farmers was at its lowest point in the past 60 years.

    The reason for this apparent contradiction was the fact that small farmers can't sell their wares directly to the final consumer who brews coffee at home. Rather, this coffee is bought up by one of a handful of multinationals, who because they are so few, more or less dictate prices to the farmers, and then sell it on to the consumers. The fact that there are few of these middle men puts them in a position of power which allows them to make off with the king's share of the profits, and indeed they absorb the price hikes.

    Maybe its time musicians got together and set up an electronic coop to sell their music the way farmers sometimes set up "farmers markets". They could have more control over their prices, and how much of what consumers pay goes to them.

    Shouldn't the internet be making it easier to cut out the middle man like this?

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  6. Re:Still getting the raw end of the deal? by Total_Wimp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Forget the RIAA, Weird Al's record label is definately the entity in charge.

    I know you all hate the labels, but it doesn't make sense to assume they're stupid. They may be greedy, exploitive and unfriendly to their own customers, but "stupid" would not be a word I would use to describe them.

    Weird Al said that he didn't really "get" the part of his contract that gave him far less money for digital downloads. He signed it anyway. That tells me pretty clearly that what Al didn't really "get" was the business of digital downloads in general. If he had, he woul have realized that paid downloads are increasing at roughly the rate of iPod sales and those iPod sales are through the roof. If he "got" digital downloads, he would have realized that 5 years from now digital could easily be a bigger business than CD.

    The thing is, his recording label did get it. They got it so well that they presented him a deal that looks pretty good now, while CD sales are still king, but will totaly bite ass in the near future when downloads are more common than CD sales. Yes, they're little better than the slickest of con men who will tell you exactly how they will get your money in the same breath that they con you out of it, but stupid? Hell no. They're in charge.

    TW

  7. Re:The Shaft by Geno+Z+Heinlein · · Score: 5, Informative

    Musicians will continue to "get the shaft" as long as they rely on majors.

    One of the best references on the subject: Courtney Love Does The Math.

  8. Re:Cuplrit? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Agreed. Here's what I understand.

    A consumer buys a record on iTunes for the flat $10 price. Apple takes its cut (30% or $3.00) but gives the rest to the record company. The record company takes out costs and then gives the artist a small percentage. For our example, let's say 10% or $0.70 goes to the artist.

    If the consumer had bought a $10.00 CD instead, the record company would still take the same of costs in terms of percentage but Apple would not have taken the first piece out. The artist would have gotten $1.00 in royalties.

    On the surface, it seems contradictory that artist would get less with iTunes and it would seem that Apple is to blame. The real culprit is what the record company considers as "costs." Every contract allows the record company to take out costs before royalties are paid. Traditionally the costs for the record company were things like distribution, marketing, and packaging for CDs and tapes. These were not minor costs.

    But in terms of digital downloads, Wierd Al (and other artists) are complaining that the record companies are taking out these traditional costs as if the work had been sold as a traditional CD or tape. What the record companies are doing are simply taking out the same percentages insteading computing the real costs.

    If the record companies had computed real costs for distribution and packaging for a download, it would have found that they are next to nothing. The artists should receive more. This is due to either the record companies not updating their accounting to deal with digital medium or purposefully shorting the artists. As a pessimist, I would think the latter.

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