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Microsoft Says Vista Most Secure OS Ever
darryl24 writes "Microsoft senior vice president Bob Muglia opened up TechEd 2006 in Boston Sunday evening by proclaiming that Windows Vista was the most secure operating system in the industry. But a bold statement can only go so far, and much of this week's conference has been spent reinforcing that point. Microsoft also acknowledges that nothing is infallible when it comes to computer security. In turn, the company has employed black hat hackers for what is called a penetration, or pen, test team."
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de Raadt's home, and the University of Alberta data center holding the OpenBSD CVS servers, were attacked nearly simultaneously. Though the attack only lasted fifteen minutes, it left hundreds of innocent Windows users injured.
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has sent a "sharply worded" protest to the United States government.
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Carousel is a lie!
As always, future history is yet to be written--although it tends to reflect and repeat the past.
Sigs cause cancer.
My work here is dung.
Those blackhats are just making notes of the real vulnerabilities while reporting simple superficial ones.
The phrase "more better" is acceptable English. suck it grammar Nazis
Of course it's the most secure OS ever. No one can compromise an OS that hasn't even been released yet.
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If the "industry" he's referring to is "the MIcrosoft operating systems industry"...
-jcr
The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
So, it's the most secure operating system ever... and from my use of the beta, I might be tempted to believe that. Here's an example of that "security": *insert CD*
"You've just inserted an insecure piece of removable media. Are you sure you want to proceed?"
*clicks yes*
*launches Internet Exploiter*
"You are attempting to connect to the internet. The internet is a very insecure place. Are you sure you want to do?"
*clicks "Yes"*
"Are you really sure? I mean, there are viruses out there on the internet. Do you know what a virus is? I mean, this stuff can really mess your computer up! Are you absolutely sure you want to connect to the internet?"
*clicks "Yes"*
"Oooooh, sorry - you don't have sufficient privileges to connect to the internet. Contact your Administrator or type your Administrator password now."
*types password*
*connects to internet*
"You are attempting to send an IP packet over an unsecured interface. This is how viruses get on your computer. Are you sure want to send this packet?"
*sighs* *clicks "Yes"*
*beep beep beep* "USER ALERT: Your computer has received an unsecured packet from the internet! This packet could be part of a virus! Are you certain you want to allow this packet into the application for processing?"
*clicks "Yes."
"You are attempting to send an IP packet over an unsecured interface. This is how viruses get on your computer. Are you sure want to send this packet?"
*sighs* *clicks "Yes"*
*beep beep beep* "USER ALERT: Your computer has received an unsecured packet from the internet! This packet could be part of a virus! Are you certain you want to allow this packet into the application for processing?"
*kicks computer*
*installs Linux/BSD or buys Mac*
VERY secure, indeed.
"Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things."
I noticed in this article that they're treading on our acronyms.
SDL - Security Development Lifecycle
Relatively inconspicuous. Simple DirectMedia Layer has nothing to fear from this in terms of mindshare. But then again, they knew that SDL was in use. Why not show a bit of cooperation?
RMS - Rights Management Something
This one is amazing, because it's basically DRM named after Richard Stallman. Someone at Microsoft either has a sense of humor, or is a complete prick. I really doubt that this was accidental.
It's superficial, but I think both examples are very symbolic.
In other news, Kellogs say Corn Flakes "taste nice". Film at eleven.
Don't let THEM immanentize the Eschaton!
Arent the white hat hackers typically the ones employed for legitimate jobs such as this? Now I'm confused :-s
Could someone explain the difference between the two so I can make sure I didnt screw up?
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The University of Alberta is in Edmonton.
That leaves Vista a very close second then, doesn't it? ;)
Claiming Vista to be the most secure OS ever when it has already had a security flaw is just insane and tells us that MS still just don't get it. Or maybe they do get it. After all they make billions. It is sad but lying to the gullible pays better then telling the truth to the clever. There are just so many more gullible people. Last count about 6 billion.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
"...the company has employed black hat hackers...
By definition, if you employ hackers to test an operating system, they are NOT "black hat" hackers - they are, at best, "grey hat" hackers.
Definition from Wikipedia:
Usually a Black hat is a person who maintains knowledge of the vulnerabilities and exploits they find as secret for private advantage, not revealing them either to the general public or the manufacturer for correction.
It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
And it's not shipping yet either.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
"Falling out laughing"?? Are all you BSD users *that* overweight? :)
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Actually, 'release' isn't a magical point where an OS becomes hackable. There's PLENTY of beta copies of vista out there if hackers wanted to play with it.
They haven't told us about any exploits they've found, but some crackers hold their exploit until the day of release and use it on retail, instead of beta. This allows them a '0-day release' that would be impossible otherwise for something with this much 'security'.
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Are you sure about that ? this IS Microsoft after all ;). If anyone can compromise an OS surely it's them.
"The boy is dangerous, they all sense it, why can't you?"
By your logic, Windows Millennium Edition is actually more secure than all other versions of Windows.
Combined.
Nah, no trouble here. Just look at their equation.
.NET being made to be crossplatform. But in reality their implementation is not even Winplatform.
1. They made PR claims about
2. Based on 1. only Windows exist.
3. MS was bitching about computer without OS, meaning Linux and others in their eyes are not OS
4. Based on 4. Windows is the only OS
5. So this will be most secure Windows ever.
6. In MS eyes 2. and 4. equals to most secure OS ever.
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Oh, wow. So they're going to top Vista off with being MORE ANNOYING than Windows XP? You mean I'm actually going to have to be prompted every time I want to do something? There'd better be a way to turn this off or I'm never going to buy a copy of Vista.
It's bad enough to be prompted every 15 minutes for a restart after I've installed updates, EVEN IF I AM IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING. Yes, Windows will pull me out of full-screen just to tell me that it has finished installing updates. To top it all off, I wont be able to browse the internet or insert CDs without some twat at Microsoft building the program to assume that I dont know what the fuck I'm doing with my computer? Sounds like a brilliant security strategy. Piss people off enough so that they never use your OS.
That kind of treat-you-like-you're-stupid shit is what makes me dread installing updates. I dont give a shit that I need to restart to install updates. Windows has waited for weeks for me to restart, and I dont need the constant nagging while it's waiting. Let me know when Vista has had its obligatory "dont treat me like I'm a mindless twat computer user" update. Then I'll get it.
SRSLY.
Microsoft just painted a huge bullseye on Vista. If the hackers were not interested in spending time finding exploits they will now. Waving red flags and yelling watch this are things you should not do unless you know for sure the bull is in the other corral or that you are an expert at the stunt you are about to try and pull. Microsoft is in the same corral with the hackers and they are not experts on OSes based on past performance.
From my favorite FarSide cartoon: Two deer standing in the woods, one has a bullseye on his chest, the other one says, "Bummer of a birth mark Hal."
And oddly enough, exploits were already found that affect XP as well as VISTA. But since Vista isn't even out yet, they don't have to patch anything.
Honestly, I think Vista is their Titanic and they just solidified this feeling by claiming that it's 'unsinkable'
Ahoy! Iceberg ahead...
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I just tried to rdesktop to my Vista installation from Linux, and instead of allowing a remote 'hacker' access the system, it bravely BLUESCREENed. Imagine an OS so secure it would rather self destructs than allow an intruder. Now that's a secure OS, yes indeed.
Tip: You must update to latest cvs of rdesktop, something about key size.
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