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U.S. Joins Hollywood in War on Piracy

Section_Ei8ht writes to mention a Washington Post article about a new joint initiative between the U.S. government and the entertainment industry. The government will now be aiding efforts abroad to stop copyright infringement. They cite the recent Pirate Bay fiasco, as well as the problems Russia is having with the WTO as a result of their thriving IP black market. From the article: "The intellectual property industry and law enforcement officials estimate U.S. companies lose as much as $250 billion per year to Internet pirates, who swap digital copies of 'The DaVinci Code,' Chamillionaire's new album and the latest Grand Theft Auto video game for free."

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  1. Stupidity in action by Umbral+Blot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is dumb for two reasons. One is that it is the US meddling in other nations purely internal affairs. The other is that it is yet another war on an abstract idea. (joining the war on terror and the war on poverty) Bad news, you can't win against an idea, only against a group of people (terrorists, pirates, the poor?). And yes there are too many pirates to even think about "winning" against them. They probably make up more than 50% of the population.

    1. Re:Stupidity in action by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think we need a war on politics, personally. Might actually have some benefits for the public in the long term.

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    2. Re:Stupidity in action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      But we have reports that those countries have weapons of mass distribution!

    3. Re:Stupidity in action by anicca · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Since the war on drugs has made drugs cheap, pure and ubiquitous, the war on terror is doing the same for terrorists, do you really want more politics? While everyone is rushing to war on one another, the fox is in the henhouse.

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    4. Re:Stupidity in action by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's pretty stupid to claim that if we had a war on porn, then 70% of the population would be criminals. If 70% of the population supported porn in a democracy that criminalized porn, then they would be a shining example of stupidity in action.

      Think about alcohol Prohibition. Before and after Prohibition, a majority of adult Americans drank alcohol at least occasionally. (Perhaps even during it, though we'll never know.) Yet the idea was popular enough to get passed via constitutional amendment, requiring the approval of two thirds of both houses of Congress AND all the state legislatures. Not that it wasn't stupid, it was *so* stupid that 13 years later it became the only amendment ever repealed.

      Never underestimate the ability of the American electorate to be precisely that stupid.

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  2. Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...who swap digital copies of 'The DaVinci Code,' Chamillionaire's new album and the latest Grand Theft Auto video game for free

    Gee, you should be PAYING THEM to download that crap. Eew.

  3. Grand Theft Auto by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 5, Funny

    So first the government wants to ban the legal sales of Grand Theft Auto here in the US and now they want to ban the illegal download of Grand Theft Auto overseas? Are they for or against the game? Or do they just not want anyone to have it?

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  4. Democracy by LainTouko · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ah, the democratic will of the people in action. At last the US government is listening to the cries of its people to punish those Swedish guys who make free stuff available and aren't breaking any local laws. Oh, wait...

  5. Since the war on terror worked out so well by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It sounds like they're going to be moving to the war on piracy. I expect we'll be carpet bombing Stockholm before the elections.

  6. I love contributor links... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...such a this one. I used it to send a letter to the author of the linked article. This letter is enclosed below. If it contains factual errors, let me know; I may have listened to the wrong slashbots.

    In "U.S. Joins Industry in Piracy War" you seem to allude to the shutdown of The Pirate Bay early on when you say mention an "illegal file-sharing Web site" in Sweden. Numerous Swedes have been working to set people straight on this - The website "The Pirate Bay" was in no way illegal under Swedish law because it does not itself contain any copyrighted materials, only links to the same. Your assertion that their site is illegal is libelous at best, since Swedish law does not prohibit such a site. In fact, their law only prohibits the exchange of copyrighted material - having it unshared on your hard disk is not a crime.

    Copyright law in the US was intended to protect our cultural heritage, not to provide profit to copyright holders in perpetuity. It is now little more than a shield that megacorporations can hide behind so that they have no need to innovate and bring us something NEW. The two acts which extended copyright were far from being in the interest of the American people.

    The seizure of TPB's servers illustrates that fascism is alive and well, and spreading throughout the world. The police in fact seized numerous servers that did not even belong to TPB as an apparent scare tactic to bring ISPs in line with their wishes, even though they were not backed up by law - if you harbor those who are practicing their legal rights, you may in fact lose business because we will interfere with it, deliberately and without cause.

    By referring to TPB's actions as illegal, you are helping to perpetuate a fraud against the entire planet.

    Hopefully I was correct about all this, but the claims I have made above were made in many long-standing high-score comments in the last discussion about this subject, and not refuted, so hopefully peer review will have made me sound like I know what I'm talking about.

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  8. SO how much by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is the industry giong to pay for our government to do this? oh wait, taxpayers will.

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  9. There's No Business Like Show Business by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Politics is show business for ugly people.

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  10. Double standard? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US picks and chooses which of its laws it will enforce in other countries -- the general trend seems to be that if there is a belief that some US corporation can profit from the law being enforced, it will be; otherwise, the US government couldn't give a shit. Consider the laws here in the states (and recognized by several international groups) regarding chemical factories. Does the US start meddling with other countries when a US chemical company decides to open up a plant somewhere and blatantly breaks the laws it would be required to follow here in America? No. Labor laws? No. But turn it around,so that the company is producing its products here in the states and selling them overseas, and suddenly, the US is interested in enforcing American laws outside of America. Double standard?

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  11. A corollary quote... by QRDeNameland · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Eventually it was discovered
    That God
    Did not want us to be
    All the same

    This was
    Bad News
    For the Governments of The World
    As it seemed contrary
    To the doctrine of
    Portion Controlled Servings

    Mankind must be made more uniformly
    If
    The Future
    Was going to work

    Various ways were sought
    To bind us all together
    But, alas
    Same-ness was unenforcable

    It was about this time
    That someone
    Came up with the idea of
    Total Criminalization

    Based on the principle that
    If we were All crooks
    We could at least be uniform
    To some degree
    In the eyes of
    The Law

    Shrewdly our legislators calculated
    That most people were
    Too lazy to perform a
    Real Crime
    So new laws were manufactored
    Making it possible for anyone
    To violate them any time of the day or night,
    And
    Once we had all broken some kind of law
    We'd all be in the same big happy club
    Right up there with the President
    The most excalted industrialists,
    And the clerical big shots
    Of all your favorite religions

    Total Criminalization
    Was the greatest idea of its time
    And was vastly popular
    Except with those people
    Who didn't want to be crooks or outlaws,

    So, of course, they had to be
    Tricked Into It ...
    Which is one of the reasons why
    Music
    Was eventually made
    Illegal.

    --Frank Zappa (from the booklet of Joe's Garage, Acts II & III - 1979)

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  12. Ah fantasy accounting by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The intellectual property industry and law enforcement officials estimate U.S. companies lose as much as $250 billion per year to Internet pirates,

    Think for a moment about this sentence. No not about the amount or how they arrived at it. Think about that sentence and and the saying, "you can't spend a penny twice".

    That amount X is perhaps lost to the content owners BUT it is not somehow evaporating into thin air, that amount saved is being spend on other things.

    So if the content industry gets the amount X then other industries will lose an amount X. Put simpler, that kid who has a allowance who just got a movie for free will now spend that money on his cellular phone, fast food, clothes etc etc.

    It is the real problem with the content industry. They used to have to contend only with clothes for young kids pocket money. Now there is games and the phone to contend with. If you ever worked for a phone company you will know how many people get into trouble with their mobile phone bill. That is money they can't spend on music/movies/games. You can't pirate cell phone minutes but you can pirate content.

    The industry world wide isn't being hurt by pirating, just the industries that are being pirated.

    As to the amount, well you then have to simply ask, where the hell would the economy come up with a spare 250 billion dollars. Since that amount of money is unlikely to be stuffed behind the couch, even Bill Gates, the figure is meaningless. You may as well make it a gazillion for all the relevance.

    If piracy was eleminated today the only thing that would happen is that you would see a shift in spending patterns. Perhaps the fashion industry needs to get in on the side of the pirates, cause if everyone has to pay for every bit of content they used to get for free, they will have a lot less money to spend on clothes.

    The economy is not a infinite idea, there is X money and you can't just wish up an extra amount. That 250 billion just doesn't exist.

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