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Origami Feedback Mixed, says Samsung

Ben Camm-Jones writes "Citing a mixture of reactions from customers who bought its Q1 device, Samsung has said that the pre-launch teaser campaign run by Microsoft about the Origami project may have been misleading."

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  1. Re:MS Vaporware??? Never! by ExKoopaTroopa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nor have they ever released vaporware.

    By definition vaporware is never released ...

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  2. Hype? NO WAY! by ELProphet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, Microsoft hyped a product (that seems to do take a good jab at it's niche), and someone says it *looked* like it might have done something else. When I see an add for a BigMac on TV, and go in to buy one, it's not *as* big or *as* juicy as in the commercial, but still worth it. So, marketers promoted a product? Big deal.

  3. Battery Life by VikingThunder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it all comes down to battery technology. We don't have the battery tehnology to make something like Origami really useful yet. IMO, it needs to have at least 8 hours of battery life at the minimum.

    1. Re:Battery Life by EvanED · · Score: 4, Insightful

      IMO, it needs to have at least 8 hours of battery life at the minimum.

      Why? Your typical work day is what, 8 hours. Are you gonna be using the thing all day? Samsung's website says that the battery life of the Q1 should be about 3.5 hours. Even if you're using the thing half the time, that should be plenty. And it seems to me like the half would be high.

      There are times when a longer battery would be really nice, like for plane rides and stuff, but for day to day operation, 3.5 hrs isn't low enough to be a deal breaker. I mean, laptops have battery lives of under that often, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone say they're
      not useful.

    2. Re:Battery Life by misterhypno · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Coinsider people who actually work in the field, as opposed to the cublcle-bound workers. With a battery life of only two hours, this thing is essentially useless for these folks. Another issue seems to be the problem of having to power up Windows simply to run the mp3 player, which, in this day and age, is pretty silly, not to mention wasteful.

      So, until this critter actually has a useful battery life, people who actually work in the field, away from the office, like sales professionals, engineering types, inspectors, law enforcement professionals, utility workers, field service agents, and the like will have little use for Origami. Even people who attend trade shows would have a hard time using this thing as they would have to find outlets on a pretty regular basis, instead of being able to wander the show and actually make USE of it for taking notes, like it's supposed to be used. Origami seems to be a bit flat yet for any practical field use. Lee Darrow, Chicago, IL
  4. Too impractical by Wootzor+von+Leetenha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I first saw the Oragami teaser site, and read articles speculating what it was, i thought it was that blue and white cell phone looking thing that folded into a few different combinations (i can't find a picture right now...can someone help?). Then when the countdown was over, they showed this honking thing, basically a bit smaller than a tablet pc. There is no market for that. It's still too big. Anything bigger than a cell phone is too big to be convenient. Similarly, anything bigger than a cell phone should probably have been designed and marketed as a non-portable device, since if most people can't fit in in their pocket or a small clip on their belt, it just can't be called "portable". I don't carry my laptop clipped to my belt. It would have been time better spent if they modified a PDA to do everything these things do.

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    1. Re:Too impractical by GreyPoopon · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Similarly, anything bigger than a cell phone should probably have been designed and marketed as a non-portable device, since if most people can't fit in in their pocket or a small clip on their belt, it just can't be called "portable".

      Maybe it's just my age showing, but to me the word "portable" means any device that can more or less be moved easily from one building to another. All this means is that the unit must be self-contained and include some feature that makes it easier to carry (like a handle). What comes immediately to mind are the original Compaq computers that came in a case about three times the size of a lunch box. Because of this, anytime I see the word "portable" used in the description for a computing device, I immediately assume that it would require strength-training for several months just be be able to lug the thing around. It's a warning sign to me.

      On the other hand, I believe the word "mobile" has the same meaning to me as your interpretation of "portable". I would expect mobile devices to either fit in my pocket, or clip to my belt in some way to make it easy to carry them without using my hands. I realize this all comes down to semantics, though.... Does anybody else feel the same?

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  5. A mishandled teaser campaign and a duff product by 99luftballon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At the end of the day the teaser campaign was mishandled. This kind of product is a tough sell at the best of times - as shown by the relative failure of the tablet PC. Samsung have a good product, but at the price of a very good laptop it's a near impossible sell. People like keyboards for serious work and there still isn't enough processing power or good enough software to make handwriting recognition a suitable alternative.

    But it was the teaser campaign that really hurt the product. Trying to run a teaser campaign that would grasp the news agenda at the same time as the world's biggest trade show like CeBIT might have sounded good but it annoyed a lot of journalists. At the same time the hints we did get on features were so inflated that when the final product came out it was a big let down.

    Teaser campaigns are notoriously difficult to pull off. Look at the Segway for example. 'Ginger' ,as was, was hyped to the moon and back but at the end of the day disappointed. Maybe it's a sign of the tech market - we tend to like less fluff and more hard facts?

  6. Why do we continue these coming soon... ads by fermion · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Ads should not be about building excitement. It should be about establishing a consumer need for a product that they do not yet know they need. Furthermore, it should not make the customer expect more real aspects than the product can deliver. With these coming soon ads the expectations are free to form uncontrolled so naturely consumers are disappointed. For things like laundry detergent expectation can be overstated, and that does not present an investment, but with compters where purchasing decisions are often driven by word of mouth, such unmanaged expectation is deadly.

    Oragami was not a revolutionary product. It was is not even an xbox. What it is is a product that really doesn't exist, and the initial marketing was done for the benifit of the fer vendors who took a chance to manufacture it. Not that MS did not take that risk.

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  7. Re:surprising by kansas1051 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well put, the Q1 retails for around $1,100, which is more than most entry level Dell notebooks. If one is looking for a light and portable Wi-Fi equipped device, the Palm TX retails for around $300. Its never been clear to me what market MS was targeting, as for 99% of users, it would be cheaper to buy a standard laptop or palm.

  8. I call it duh by zanderredux · · Score: 3, Insightful
    From TFA, we conclude that the degree of disappointment is inversely proportional to the exposure to hype you got.

    It seems that the real problem was how badly Microsoft marketing managed the release of Origami, giving too little information at a time, which causes people to guesstimate wildly.

    Despite this obvious rant, the only thing I liked in TFA is how I misread the sentence:

    Microsoft collaborated with Intel to create Origami, which combines a tablet edition of Windows XP with a pen-based tablet computer similar in specification to a laptop.

    For a split second, I read:

    Microsoft collaborated with Intel to create Origami, which combines a tablet edition of Windows XP with a pen-based toilet computer similar in specification to a laptop.
    What do you do with a toilet computer? How (and where) do you put the pen away????
  9. Re:MS Vaporware??? Never! by Wootzor+von+Leetenha · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Nor have they ever released vaporware."

    I think vaporware, by definition, is never released.

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  10. Product X feedback mixed, product Y feedback mixed by stratjakt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sheesh... Some people didn't like the iPod when it lauched.. Some people don't like Palm's Treo.. Some people don't like the XBox, or the PSP, or the Gameboy.. Some people liked New Coke..

    Can anybody name a product launch without "mixed" feedback?

    The article has slim to no details as to what the problems were, and I suspect this is only on slashdot because of the dig at microsoft.

    Does anybody have any real info on the device?

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  11. Re:Too expensive!!! by rhedin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure I can agree here-- I spent $299 + tax on my Nokia 770 as opposed to about $1200 for the Q1; while the Q1 is running Windows and has a more powerful processor, it's also much bigger. I can carry my linux based 770 with me wherever I go very easily (fits in a shirt pocket) and have had no problem using it anywhere. For me at least, the extra $800 isn't worth it.

    rob.

  12. good for drawing by kisrael · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm vaguely considering getting some hardware like this (or perhaps one of those dinky if overpriced Fujitsu lifebooks) as a doodling/art tool.

    I'm hoping someday touchscreens will be the standard, not the exception. Or, conversely, that drawing on a blank pad on your lap or on the table while looking at what you're drawing on separate screen will be considered some weird anomaly.

    Any suggestions for hardware? I don't need a huge "canvas" but Palm is a little too small (often with flakey digitizers as well)

    I'd love to see Apple get on this.

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  13. Re:Waste of bandwidth by mrchaotica · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The advantage is in being able to draw diagrams in the midst of your notes.

    Incidentally, I second the O.P. -- the handwriting recognition in Windows Tablet PC Edition is really great. I tried it on a full-size Tablet PC, of course, but it should be exactly the same for an Origami device

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