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The First Blu-ray Burner, Pioneer's BDR-101A

mikemuch writes "ExtremeTech has a review of Pioneer's BDR-101A-- the first Blu-ray burner available. The drive can do anything with CDs, is kind of slow with DVDs, and doesn't support double-density Blu-ray media, but hey, it's a start, and can burn 25GB in 42 minutes. Check out its burn speed benchmark performance at the link above."

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  1. Learn to read! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    > The drive can do anything with CDs

    should read:
    The drive can't do anything with CDs

  2. Fatal Error by linvir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Copyrighted media detected. Burn aborted.

  3. Correction on CD disk capability by chamilto0516 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From the article: "Interestingly, the BDR-101A neither burns nor reads CD media of any type. So if you still need CD burning or reading capability, you'll need an additional drive."

    Anyway, the Blu-Ray disks are $19-29 USD. I will need to wait until I can buy a spindle of 100 Blu-Ray disks for 9.99 before I go out and buy one of these things.

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  4. Can't read CD media? by Danga · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why did they leave that ability out? I know I don't want to have a separate drive to read CD's, but with this drive that is the only option. I can see phasing out CD's once this new generation of media is firmly in place but it is way too early to start phasing out CD's. Floppy disks somewhat recently just got phased out for Christ's sake. I don't see CD's going anywhere for at least 3 more years.

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  5. The Summary by Doomedsnowball · · Score: 5, Informative
    In the end, the BDR-101A is really a device for a select audience. For what it's worth, the drive is actually cheaper than the first-generation DVD recorders, which weighed in at over $2,000 when they first launched. Over the next months and years, we'll see the price of Blu-ray drives start to come down, as players, media, and the technology for more easily creating discs becomes more prevalent. It's also not well-suited for watching Blu-ray movies, since no off-the-shelf software exists. It's a good tool for people who are authoring Blu-ray, and are willing to put up with the single-layer limitation. For anyone else, it's really an expensive toy.

    This just about sums up the entire article: Wow, neat. Don't buy one yet.

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  6. From the last flamefest... by Frightening · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We have already established that Blu-Ray READERS are to be boycotted for the general public good. Why post an article about a BURNER when nobody is going to use the READERS? I mean, everybody reads and believes slashdot, right? Right?

    1. Re:From the last flamefest... by bsartist · · Score: 5, Insightful
      We have already established that Blu-Ray READERS are to be boycotted for the general public good.
      I believe that has more to do with DRM-infested commercial releases than with the readers themselves.

      Why post an article about a BURNER
      Backups, distribution of free software, etc. There are plenty of uses for a new recordable optical media type that don't involve buying commercial DRM-infested discs.

      Oh hell, who am I kidding? The real reason is right here.
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  7. Why bother? by onyxruby · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Honestly, why bother?

    Blu ray would have been relevant 4 years ago if it had been introduced then, but it wasn't. Instead it's been introduced in todays age when you can buy a 250 GB hard disk for less than $70 with ease. The disks for this will be like any other disk in that their effective lifecycle will just be a few years. Like any other burnable disk they will suffer from burn problems and very low reliability.

    It doesn't price justify to buy this kind of media (nevermind the whole DRM bit). Your better off spending your money on hard drives, they hold significantly more data, are an order of magnitude cheaper and several orders of magnitude more durable. In all sincerity, why would you ever want to buy something like this?

  8. Create/burn PAR2 files with your backups by MojoStan · · Score: 5, Informative
    i'm too paranoid to use stuff like this for backups.. sure 25 gigs is nice but whats the use if i just burn everything in 35 copies on the disc incase one part becomes unreadable?

    as media starts to hold more, i just start creating more copies of the same backup on the disc. bluray/hdvd scares me because if it gets scratched you lose so much more than if a cd gets scratched

    One of the most useful comments (for me) I've ever read on Slashdot was one suggesting PAR2 files for DVD backups.

    For those that don't know, PAR2 files are parity files that can efficiently reconstruct missing or damaged blocks in your archive. If you have more PAR2 recovery blocks than damaged blocks, then you can completely reconstruct all of the damaged files in your archive. The best newbie explanation I've seen is the "PAR & PAR2 files" section from Slyck's Guide To The Newsgroups.

    If I'm backing up to a data DVD-R (capacity 4,706,074,624 bytes), I'll leave around 4GB of space for the actual data and fill the rest (to the brim) with the PAR2 files that I created for that data. I name the PAR2 files starting with the letter 'z' so that they get burned on the outer edge of the DVD. When creating the PAR2 files, I choose a block size that is a multiple of 2048 bytes because that is the block size of a DVD sector.

    Some easy-to-use tools to create PAR2 files:

    Some DVD data recovery software (to get every readable block off a damaged disc):

    Thanks, WuphonsReach.

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