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PGP & GPG

Ben Rothke writes "PGP (Pretty Good Privacy), as most Slashdot readers know, is one of the most popular software encryption programs ever. It is so good and so effective that in the early 1990s the FBI launched a multi-year investigation against Phil Zimmerman, the creator of PGP, for possible violation of federal export laws, especially ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulation). After many years of investigation, the FBI ultimately dropped its case against Zimmerman. Even though PGP is synonymous with end-user encryption, there have only been a few books written on the subject. Jump to 2006, and PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid is a welcome title." Read the rest of Ben's review. PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid author Michael Lucas pages 216 publisher No Starch Press rating 8 reviewer Ben Rothke ISBN 1593270712 summary Pretty good overview of PGP & GPG

On page 167 in Appendix A of the book, the author candidly writes that PGP "comes with a very good and complete manual at over 300 pages". With that, one may question why one would spend $24.95 on a book which covers much of the same information as the bundled documentation.

The reality is that there is a large class of people that will simply not read any form of documentation. Rather, they prefer something with an ISBN number. Such people are a boon to authors (of which I am one) and publishers. For that group, PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid provides a pretty good overview of how to use PGP.

The book is written for an end-user who, while comfortable with the workings of technology, is new to the sometimes strange world of public key cryptography. The author writes in an easy-to-read style and, through repetition, inculcates the principal ideas of encryption and cryptography to the reader.

The introduction and first chapter provide a good presentation of the concepts of encryption, cryptography and public-key cryptography. The idea of public-key cryptography, on which PGP is based, is not so intuitive, and many people struggle with the basic concepts. The first chapter, appropriately titled 'Cryptography Kindergarten' is a good read for those who are public-key cryptography challenged.

On a side note, the notion that even smart end-users can be intimidated by public key cryptography was detailed in a now seminal research paper 'Why Johnny Can't Encrypt: A Usability Evaluation of PGP 5.0.'

The premise of the paper is that user errors cause or contribute to most computer security failures, yet user interfaces for security still tend to be clumsy, confusing, or near-nonexistent. The authors argue that effective security requires a different usability standard, and that it will not be achieved through the user interface design techniques appropriate to other types of consumer software. The authors conclude that PGP 5.0 is not usable enough to provide effective security for most computer users despite its attractive graphical user interface. Even though PGP is in version 9.x, it still suffers from usability flaws.

Cryptography purists may recoil when the author repeatedly uses the term 'military-grade encryption.' Military-grade encryption and military-grade cryptography are overused terms, most often by marketing departments, but there is no real definition of 'military-grade encryption' -- and even if there were, it would be classified. Most people use 'military-grade encryption' to mean really strong crypto, much like those who use the term 'Olympic-size swimming pool' to refer to a really large pool. But the term 'military-grade encryption' is so misused by so many people that it is a lost cause to try to fight it.

In the rest of the book, chapters 2 - 11, the author details the varied usages of PGP & GPG. The book also details the differences between OpenPGP, PGP and GPG.
The difference between them is that PGP is a commercial piece of software, GPG (Gnu Privacy Guard) is open source, and OpenPGP is a protocol that defines a standard format for encrypted messages, signatures, and certificates for exchanging public keys.

The author astutely writes that while PGP provides really strong security, this is only if, and this is a huge if, it is implemented correctly. Chapter 11 notes that although OpenPGP provides a reliable method of authentication and encryption, it is also not unbreakable. OpenPGP can be vulnerable to many different types of attacks and weaknesses, including poor implementation, hardware or software compromise, fake keys and more. It is important to realize that OpenPGP provides significant, but not unbreakable security.

At 180 pages and priced at $24.95, PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid is an excellent book that shows the end-user in an easy to read and often entertaining style just about everything they need to know to effectively and properly use PGP and OpenPGP.

For those that want to save money and perhaps save a few trees, the free documentation that comes along with the product is similarly worth reading.

You can purchase PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid from bn.com.

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  1. A New Core Class in College? by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The first chapter, appropriately titled 'Cryptography Kindergarten' is a good read for those who are public-key cryptography challenged.

    So basically 99.9% of users online today.

    1. Re:A New Core Class in College? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What level of understanding are we talking here? I understand how public/private key encryption works well enough to use it securely, and it's not that hard to grasp. I imagine a significant portion of Slashdotters understand it as well. With almost 1,000,000 accounts, if only one in ten of us got it, there's your 100K.

      Now if you mean understand as in "could create a secure public key algorithm," then OK, I see your point.

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  2. So What Does It Mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (Pretty Good Privacy), as most Slashdot readers know, is one of the most popular software encryption programs ever.

    This statement may indeed be true. And yet, 98 out of 100 people on the street would have no idea what PGP is. What does that say about software encryption programs.

    No one knows, no one cares and very few have been affected by their ignorance.

    1. Re:So What Does It Mean? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Insightful
      No one knows, no one cares and very few have been affected by their ignorance.
      I'm sure many, many people have been affected.. it's just that when they get their email read or their private files exploited, they're ignorant that it could possibly have been prevented. Someone who doesn't know how to lock their front door might still be affected by a burglary.
    2. Re:So What Does It Mean? by Zarel · · Score: 4, Funny
      And yet, 98 out of 100 people on the street would have no idea what PGP is.
      That's because nerds usually don't go out on the street. :P
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    3. Re:So What Does It Mean? by sahuaro · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Mod this poster up! The inventors of public key encryption envisioned a future where encrypting email would be as common as stuffing a letter in an envelope. Phishing would be unheard of since a digital signature would prove that the mail came from who it said it did.

      The US government, of course, didn't want this future to come about and put roadblocks in place to prevent it. So, today we have phoney email scams and unencrypted personnel data that gets scattered to the winds on unsecured government and private sector computers. Encrypt your email? Why you must be doing something illegal!

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    4. Re:So What Does It Mean? by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's why fingerprints and web of trust were invented.

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  3. Should rename the book by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    PGP & GPG: Email for the Practical Paranoid

    title soon to become "PGP & GPG: encryption for the practical suspicious target of the homeland security dept."

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    1. Re:Should rename the book by bmah · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait a minute...how do we know you're the real Michael Lucas? :-)

  4. Re:what the... by neonprimetime · · Score: 3, Funny

    That was the most difficult google search I've ever done ... Gnu Privacy Guard

  5. Pretty Poor Privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can't say I ever found any PGP product good for any application. It was way too complicated and just not what was needed.

    Instead, I found my holy grail of encryption in Truecrypt (http://truecrypt.org )which simply has rocked for the longest time (I'm in no way associated with it). Its free, and as far as I'm concerned as far as free encryption tools go, nothing can touch it, esp if you use one of the double pass encyption methods down the list, and don't label your volumes as truecrypt volumes or keep the encrytion program and the encrypted data on the same harddrive (use a USB key). No way they can identify what it is if you leave no clues.

    Unfortunatly, I found out today on Wikipedia that Truecrypt has a rather lest than sparkling history... it seems rather sordid actually from what its homepage would allude to....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truecrypt

    PGP's probelm was it was never really integrated into an email system, and it had that totally messy key system that really was not worth bothering with or learning unless you were a highly trained memeber of secret police agency (as opposed to John Q public). There definatly is a begging need for good encryption of plain text ascii emails, but PGP just doesn't step up to the job. It needs to be integrated end to end in sendmail or whatever other mail transport servers, and inside the big heavyweight email programs used out there... PINE, Netscape Mail, the webmail services, and perhaps even OUtlook.

    Skip Truecrypt, encrypt your data in a small volume and attach it as a file to who you want to send it to... in fact, encrypt whole harddrives or create files that can be mounted as virtual harddrives.

    Truecrypt: http://truecrypt.org/

    Zimmerman is more of a posterboy against the man than really than anything else in my practical opinion. I don't know any compgeek that uses PGP, or anyone that uses it to encrypt their mail.

    1. Re:Pretty Poor Privacy by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2, Funny

      >I don't know any compgeek that uses PGP, or anyone that uses it to encrypt their mail.

      -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----

      Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 6.0

      qANQR1DBwU4DA/vEixf2Zr4QB/95c5uv6mCv4yYel3qStiha bGzW7Ekfi4STPs1T CJf/fgp3S0SHUFmCgJXL4QNdkoo37wdVD/4v5xWWj7tXPfA2KQ 8bYueHIWp8QXIx TIxxRIQhw/69WXT/RAAtRBdvFPfucphQZ8xSxOc6gPlMYnPOVC PjXqXaZcZXwk8R Cv9yICy+S8ipGiGb3miPOfvqv/FAOT/uVCHv/VGrVJhDD29xfM 7TWk25LLXlbQW5 pOjgO30DNdbdhQMdsOSmQXTQdRDJDjbwQeWWk3CFZtpLmlbjXL U0hvZ7PtAGlQKh iIboJl+HM+jsEtHurqmgXR1+NQdqziBDOxUvQ29lJre6qi8+CA DHyCy+S6x2ZBfN 1qHt+3Hs6/AtF9q+auA1s6YbL2V2zyLKP8SHtA3foIORcyg325 Ki9ddME9VbVjN1 uirr01V3FwhdHdFBuPUDXF2270GPvdmoQDoUMpGOkLvr34ZeEK t9gmhzJlwVjkjS O/bwGWpml6qESWbS1xBJfxwzbT6KCpKqCmEVg1DC7U1MsKsC8y QHzsnRFpbr7jfW 40J/sDhmdu+2TnXNwflBeBVRU80wc+rqO2VD6apUSmcBj2b/U0 6fG/Py5c/F468l 56BJmIchgC24y6/q9Jm6fqjb6+C3Wg1bIRF15gp9giX8wBuFzx PvaOmVqf/I0fVk va1o+83bycDBYsLDcK82knA1ByPJpFfr0/7zZH6L6hApcBQGin WNDIy6XHNzCiFl VdL/KQzMBZs880m9ECKVfdhmfaH4ai9venAQi7vD3iSF2ZQ7Xl jVUtp3v6vcLNAD UqNXJ6a7rux5a10ao3GDtt0szqu+UxmH/+SVvIG7Hlp5Ygv+TX bTjVccBZoBhCj1 /2/gY3UeodNBJcLTdzY1trjx/cgSkF/gcts6/BlSyEmihM5pYM kJvLUk1a/HtZt8 uu1mfZJbwfDD+1SDmUaCJEYdijVn7HMjM0WB2tH87SP3xFMKvs qb5IT343ihgljo TGrfjKRU2EWnFeTaRk3ON5+c4zE7a4IQCUJd9qjwUt5U+Owv9i s/Zz8QxPSqDfC0 /t4P1C7eRBShaoDq30PotjK+gZP7P40vgRsrTVB0Hm08H1xitM xYy8uC2sqYKIwi gZYknFR7S02OVdQk6eCXVco7otVd1Zgk5tE1mgi48t+1FuPUUE yc3Q19dZM6m2Xx GQjhuVGlF8fnDw== =l9MK

      -----END PGP MESSAGE-----

      Oh, and there is a place for your public key on your /. page.

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    2. Re:Pretty Poor Privacy by QCompson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Apples, oranges, pears, and bananas here people. Truecrypt is a fantastic program, but how in the world would it be easier to:

      encrypt your data in a small volume and attach it as a file to who you want to send it to...

      How would they know the passphrase to open your attachment? That's the whole point of the public/private key system.

  6. X.509 requires a CA. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    Until Microsoft starts bundling their Certificate Services in Vista Home editions as a My-Identity-broker kind of thing, X.509 is useless for most people. X.509 is in Outlook because Outlook is the frontend for Exchange.

    GPG/PGP are asymmetric cryptosystems that don't rely on PKI infrastructure, just per-user public/private keypairs. Not enterprise friendly but they can be used to bootstrap a trusted online relationship.

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  7. Slashdot and Public Keys by ettlz · · Score: 5, Informative

    There's a Public Key field in the User Preferences page on Slashdot, but does anyone know where you go to pick up other users' keys?

  8. Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P by DarthStrydre · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Cryptography purists may recoil when the author repeatedly uses the term 'military-grade encryption.' ... there is no real definition of 'military-grade encryption' -- and even if there were, it would be classified."

    Ahem, reference http://www.nsa.gov/ia/industry/crypto_suite_b.cfm

    While Suite A is classified, Suite B, specifically AES, is specifically mentioned as being suitable for up to TOP SECRET info.

    Military grade is not a useless term, as it is therein defined.

    HOO-AH!

    1. Re:Mil Grade Crypto... IS defined :-P by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps there is a secret they only need to keep secure for 30 minutes, or they have an old PC. So in this case, a 40-bit cipher would be sufficient to protect their data in that case. So would that make a 40-bit cipher military-grade encryption?

      For that particular application, absolutely. And if I find myself in a similar situation, then I can safely do the same since, if the military feels that's sufficient to protect their likely-more-important data, then I probably can, too.

      Is this really that difficult to understand?

  9. S/MIME by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When people say "X.509" when talking about email security, what they mean is S/MIME. It is pretty clear S/MIME is going to win the battle to be the most common form of email security on the Internet. It has built-in support on Outlook, Thunderbird, hell--even mutt.

    If people CHOOSE to trust a PKI, S/MIME works WAY better than PGP because key distribution is much easier. If they don't want to do a PKI, they can still trust individual certificates, just like PGP. They can verify certificates by reading thumbprints over the phone, if they like.

    Basically, S/MIME can do everything PGP/MIME can do except the "web of trust." And WoT is just WAY too much work for 99.9% of the population. PGP will eventually vanish.

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    1. Re:S/MIME by Betabug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > It is pretty clear S/MIME is going to win the battle to be the most
      > common form of email security on the Internet.

      If this is going to happen then S/MIME has yet some way to go first. Reality is that I see S/MIME only ever "used" by corporate minions. I put quote marks around "used", because I have yet to receive anything more than a signed mail. On the other hand there are ISPs and domain registrars who work with PGP - you can give them your public key and do business like that.

      Have you noticed how many open source projects use PGP signatures to verify source downloads? Would you like to wait for them to use S/MIME to sign those tarballs?

      Then there is what happens on a more personal level. Myself I'm communicating with geeks and non-geeks in my surrounding with GPG and it works fine once it's been set up. A book like the one described could be a big help here. I can't really say that the book "would help", because the review just plain sucks - it doesn't tell us if the book is any good, it just says what it attempts to do.

      The main problem with S/MIME is certificate revocation though. And this is an old problem with S/MIME, it's been said again and again. There is just no good strategy to deal with revoked keys/certificates. You have revocation lists, but they do not get used (same problem as with webserver SSL certificates). Even if revocation lists in S/MIME got used, the setup is tailored for corporations.

      That is the reason why PGP had and still has that little bit of success: It was designed for us "little guys", the normal people. We're no corparations, corporations don't work for us, and their software doesn't work for us.

  10. Anon has a point though by p3d0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Acronyms should be defined in the summary.

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  11. Outlook plugin? by haeger · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I've been looking at different plugins for gpg but haven't found anything that's quite what I want. The best one I've found is something that uses the clipboard for encryption/decryption. Works OK for someone who doesn't mind a little work.
    What I'd like to see is an Outlook plugin (or OExpress) that does the following. (Please note that I wrote O/OE because they are the major players)

    * GPG included to make it easy for the user. Just one install for the whole package.
    * Automatically create keypair during installation
    * Default option to keep passphrase cached (not safe, yes I know, I know)
    * Automatically decrypt/sigcheck all incoming emails
    * Automatically encrypt/sign all outgoing mails.
    * Attach the pubkey to all outgoing mails where the address isn't in my keyring.
    * Automatically (just ask for password confirmation or something) addition of incoming pubkeys to my keyring.
    * GPL :-)
    * The people who got the pubkey would also get a link to where to download the plugin.

    I'm sure someone can expand this list quite a bit and I'm sure I forgot half of what I wanted to put on that list, but it's a start anyway.

    Anyone care to write such a plugin? Or is there one already that I don't know of?
    I do think that if there was something to that effect that you would see a spike in encrypted emails going across the globe.
    I used to encrypt/sign everything but since I was the only one using pgp/gpg it was kind of pointless.

    .haeger

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    1. Re:Outlook plugin? by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, it doesn't do absolutely everything on your list but it's a pretty good start: http://www.gpg4win.org/.

      It does the first two, and the third - it does cache passphrases for short periods of time. I don't know off the top of my head how to change the cache duration, but there should be a config option somewhere.
      Sending encrypted or signed email is just a matter of two toggles in a toolbar on every email - you should be able to change a setting somewhere so they always default to on (right now they default to off unless I'm replying to a PGP-encrypted/signed email).

      It is GPL.

      As for this:
      * Attach the pubkey to all outgoing mails where the address isn't in my keyring.

      Seems like it would be a pretty easy addition to the existing GPG4Win codebase.

      * Automatically (just ask for password confirmation or something) addition of incoming pubkeys to my keyring.

      Not sure about this since I don't think I ever get such emails, but I believe you can just double click on a pubkey attachment in the correct format and it will open it in WinPT, the key management software packaged with GPG4Win.

      * The people who got the pubkey would also get a link to where to download the plugin.

      This is trivial if you are already attaching the pubkey, just stick a link in your sig.

      The one thing GPG4Win needs is some English documentation - it's got decent documentation, but in German only. A bit more professional looking web design would be nice too. And some parts of the software feel a touch rough around the edges, but overall it "just works" most of the time.

  12. I wish security were more accessible to the masses by jdavidb · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just the other day I saw the following on the website of an author selling her own book directly:

    Emailing Credit Card Numbers To email your credit card number, we suggest sending two emails. The first email should contain half of the credit card number and expiration date: 1234 5678 XXXX XXXX exp date: 07/XX The second email should contain the other half of the credit card number and expiration date. XXXX XXXX 3141 5926 exp date: XX/05

    Sigh...

  13. Re:X.509 is better by nog_lorp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think anyone with who: A) has concern for their privacy and security, and B) is in their right mind, would want to use MicroSoft's Outlook email client. (Anyone recall the Outlook exploit that was executed without even opening the email?)

    Aside from the fact that noone should use outlook, I read up a tiny bit on X.509. According to Wikipedia, X.509 uses signed certificates from CAs, meaning you have to PAY, and store your certificate with a "trusted company". Not only is this horrible for paranoids who wouldn't trust Verisign, but the US Gov. could subpoena your information from these companies, rendering your encryption useless (against the government).

  14. Re:X.509 is better by amliebsch · · Score: 4, Informative

    First of all, you can get free personal S/MIME email certificates from Thawte, which is a trusted CA. Second of all, you don't have to use a commercial trusted CA. You can also be your own CA and issue yourself all the certificates you want. The only catch is that outside the domain of your CA, your CA will not be a trusted CA, so you either have to establish trust in advance with other users, or live with having an untrusted certificate.

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  15. Re:X.509 is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read up a tiny bit on X.509.

    That is obvious.

    According to Wikipedia, X.509 uses signed certificates from CAs, meaning you have to PAY,

    No, you can set up your own CA (for free) with openssl. And in fact, you don't need a CA at all. You can use your own certificates that aren't signed by anyone, just like PGP/GPG. In fact, the underlying math (public-key cryptography) is exactly the same as PGP/GPG.

    and store your certificate with a "trusted company".

    Store your certificate? Bullshit. You send the CA a certificate signing request. They sign it, and send it back to you. The certificate is useless without your private key, and the private key doesn't leave your possession. Decryption can only be done with the private key. So don't lose it.

    Not only is this horrible for paranoids who wouldn't trust Verisign,

    You don't need to trust Versign for X.509 to work. The only time you need to trust Versign (or any other CA) is to identify the cert of someone you never met. How do you know that a cert really belongs to the person? Verisign (or some other CA) signed the certificate. How do you know if a PGP key really belongs to someone you never met? Someone signed it.

    But do you trust the signer? That question occurs with certificates and PGP keys.

    but the US Gov. could subpoena your information from these companies, rendering your encryption useless (against the government).

    Even if the US Gov't seizes all of verisign's info, that won't help them break your cryptography, since the private key (see above) never left your possession and Verisign never had it.

    It's one thing to be paranoid, it's another thing to be an idiot. Understand how cryptography works before you start to rant & rave.

    Frankly, if the US Gov't really, really wants to break your encryption, they'll bug your computer, or your house, or call in the NSA, or send in the Marines.

  16. Re:X.509 is better by 1nhuman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Users much prefer the simpicity of an X.509 solution.


    The simplicity of X.509? Is completly the other way around. PGP is simple :)

    You probably never implemented a corporate PKI infrastructure. I myself love PKI (it's a freeking miracle I got married, I know) and have implemented or at least contributed in implementing several PKI's over the years. Simplicity is definitely not the first thing that comes to mind. Things like OCSP and CRL's you need to check the validity of a key, basically everything around issuing keys, key-escrow etc. it is al pretty complicated. Not nescecairly the theory, but the actual implementation and integration. Plus not to mention expensive. And don't even get me started on the legal side of it, the contracts you need, the legal requirements, webtrust etc.etc.. Brrrrrrr.

    PKI is cool, has a lot of potential etc. Put it's not simple in anyway. Microsoft may make it look simple (did I just say that?), by basically "trusting" loads of CA's defaultly but how much is that trust worth exactly? Not much in my eyes. Oke, the encryption during transit... that should be ok. But is the signer of that email really who he says he is?

    Between me, my friends and my colleguae's we use GPG. Bunch of my friends are on Mac's like me others are on Linux or BSD flavored machines. Some even use Windows. I don't even know al the plug-ins everyone uses. Hell, I don't know the name of mine. It integrated with Apple Mail and I just press the buttons etc, type in my passphrase and it works. Simple. Plus the keys I trust, I explicitly trusted by hand. Basically this kind of trust is loads better then accepting any mail certificate issued by the Verisigns of the world.

    Here is the Mac link: http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/ . Loads of GUI GPG tools.

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  17. X.509 is worse by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 3, Informative
    Me, via IM: Hey, John, here's my GPG key. <pastes GPG key into IM window>
    John: Cool. Here's mine.

    Et voila - we can now start sending private messages back and forth (neglecting man-in-the-middle issues with the key exchange that can be trivially avoided with a single phone call or in-person meeting). Notice the missing step: neither of us paid Verisign or another CA for the privilege of saying "Hey, wanna go to lunch?" in private.

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  18. Re:I wish security were more accessible to the mas by smoker2 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Add to that the number of web sites using an aging perl shopping cart system whereby half the credit card number is immediately emailed to the admin and the rest is stored as plain text on the server. Also the web sites who claim that your numbers are perfectly safe as they are using 128 bit encryption and the data is not decrypted until it reaches their [colocated, probably virtual] server. I had an argument with some previous employers when they insisted on calling their colocated RAQ3 a "secure server". I pointed out that they had never even seen the facility that it was housed in, and the private data was freely accessable using telnet, because it wasn't encrypted once ssl had done with it.

    Just as a an example, I set up a shopping cart of the type I mentioned and they thought it was the mutts nutz until I showed them that I was receiving both parts of the credit card numbers by email at a private email account. Even then I don't think they thought it was a problem. I left shortly afterwards.

    I wonder whose harvesting those numbers now...

    BTW, I deleted that shopping cart, so I am not guilty of abusing the system. It was done to prove a point.

  19. Advice for me by paulproteus · · Score: 2, Funny
    For those that want to save money and perhaps save a few trees, the free documentation that comes along with the product is similarly worth reading.
    I want to save money, but I hate trees. What do you suggest I do?
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  20. Re:I wish security were more.. by hyfe · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Any snooping done is most likely going to be automatic, and this ensures naive snooping won't work. As long as this is not in widespread use it's going to much more secure than not doing it, and it's relativly easy to do and non-obstrusive.

    All-in-all, I think it's a practical down-to-earth simple solution. Seriously, don't laugh just because it's not technical enough for you.. So while you're busy being a tech-snon, the world will be busy getting stuff done. This works; for now.

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  21. Re:I wish security were more accessible to the mas by DMoylan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that's pretty secure compared to this site

    http://www.rncca.com/

    why they have a password is beyond me when they list the password on the site?

  22. Getting Started with PGP and GPG by klenwell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Uncanny timing on this article for me -- I just this morning set up both PGP and GPG clients on my Windows machine. I found some inspiration in this tutorial on PGP:

    http://www.haltabuse.org/pgp/win/index.shtml

    The tutorial talks about version 7 or 8 of the software when it was still freeware. Version 9 it appears still offers the basic functionality for free, but I have to admit that I was a bit put off by the fact that it's presented as a 30 day trial with a EULA that includes passages like this:

    You hereby expressly consent to PGP Corp's processing of personal data you provide to PGP Corp (which may be collected by PGP Corp or its distributors) according to PGP Corp's current privacy policy which is incorporated into this Agreement by reference (see ). If "you" are an organization, you will ensure that each member of your organization (including employees and contractors) about whom personal data may be provided to PGP Corp has given his or her express consent to PGP Corp's processing of such personal data. Personal data will be processed by PGP Corp or its distributors in the country where it was collected, or in the location of PGP Corp or its distributors; United States laws regarding processing of personal data may be less stringent than the laws in your jurisdiction.

    Standard EULA boilerplate perhaps, but I found it unnerving in a product that's supposed to protect your privacy.

    I also downloaded GPG4Win from

    http://www.gpg4win.org/

    and got it running. I just succeeded in encrypting a message with the one and decrypting it with the other, so I think I'll go with GPG.

    Amazing that such tools aren't de rigueur by now.

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    Innovation makes enemies of all those who prospered under the old regime... -- Machiavelli
  23. Re:paranoia? by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My guesses include:

    * They've coerced the author to build in a backdoor (a la clipper).
    * They've spent enough billions on serious hardware that they can brute-force it in a reasonable time.
    * They've got some very clever mathematician to figure out a viable attack.


    I think you can safely scratch #1, while also safely assuming #2. The trick is how timely, and how much encrypted traffic there is overall. If you or your message has been flagged as a high priority decrypt, then they're likely to throw a lot of crunch at it.

    However, if you're not flagged and more people start to use encryption, you're more likely to get lost in the noise.

    Your #3, I have no idea. I don't really have enough math knowledge to have a good grasp on the difficulties such a mathematician would face.

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  24. PGP is used in secure file transfer; SMIME revenge by jonathan_lampe · · Score: 2, Interesting
    "I can't say I ever found any PGP product good for any application. It was way too complicated and just not what was needed."

    PGP is big in the secure file transfer worlds of banking, insurance and the like. It's quite common to "PGP" a file and then send it via FTP or SSH.

    Someone else mentioned S/MIME encryption. I have two things to say about that:

    #1: An analogy: PGP is to S/MIME as SSH is to SSL. The first technologies are designed for individuals to each trust each other; the latter technologies are designed to rely on a trusted third party (specifically, a CA).

    #2: Despite not-wide-use in email, S/MIME is having its revenge in the form of the AS/x protocols, most commonly AS/2. This protocol is widely used in retail, distribution and pharmas and uses S/MIME encryption to both send files and receive cryptographically secure receipts. (Drop me a line at jonathan.lampe@standardnetworks.com if you want to chat about this further; I'm looking for some beta testers for a related application!)