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WGA Turning Off PCs in the Fall?
thesaint05 writes "We all know about Microsoft's WGA initiative that started last July. Most of us were troubled to learn that the WGA has been 'phoning home' to Microsoft at every boot. Well, get ready, because eventually Microsoft may be turning off copies of Windows without WGA installed. According to a Microsoft technician, 'in the fall, having the latest WGA will become mandatory and if its not installed, Windows will give a 30 day warning and when the 30 days is up and WGA isn't installed, Windows will stop working, so you might as well install WGA now.'" A new version of WGA was released on Tuesday and, at least for the time being, Windows users have the option of removing WGA from their systems.
What? What was that sound? Was that the sound of millions of unlicensed Windows machines all screaming out in shutdown all at once - and then suddenly silenced?
To keep the current Futurama motif running, quoth Professor Farnsworth, "The Jedi are going to feel this one!"
Seriously, though, doesn't Microsoft realize that significant number of users aren't going to go out and suddenly buy Windows? Sure, most (half?) will, but the rest will go hunting for a truly free (read: no-cost) alternative until a hack comes out.
How could this possibly be a good idea now ? Maybe if it had been there all along, or was introduced in a new release (XP, Vista, whatever)... but why spring it on the unsuspecting masses mid-cycle? That just screams massive user migration.
Not that I'm shedding any tears in reaction to that concept!
"Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things."
It is their product, if you didn't pay for it I don't see how you can complain that they aren't going to support you or allow you to continue using it. If you want software to be free that much, use Linux and stop complaining.
Yes, but as the article stated the will turn off any machine not running the LATEST version of WGA. If you havn't installed any of the most recently updates whatsoever and have been running a pirated version all long there is no way that MS will be able to shut off your machine. This feature simply wasn't built in originally. So they will only be hurting those who are legal and don't have the most recent WGA version, or those who are illigal and stupid.
A couple of scenarios I typically see:
User #1: Has auto update on and is a member in good standing anyway. No problems
User #2: Has auto update off and is a member in good standing. No problems because they haven't updated their computer since they bought it.
User #3: Running cracked copy and will have a way around this doomsday scenario pretty soon.
Your user #3 is a minority in the U.S. Microsoft and every successful software company -knows- the key to making popular software is to make it easy enough to crack. So I don't see the Microsoft playing "license enforcer" anywhere except maybe the U.S.
Sensational summary though.
http://www.maxineudall.com/2010/02/should-economists-be-sued-for-malpractice.html
I agree to an extent. But the OP has a point as well. Either way, Microsoft will be decreasing their install base in order to gain a few more legit sales. Expect to see more volume license keys here and there.
This really smacks of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. If they do go through with this, I can see them losing their monopoly status within a few years.
Now they know that they really do have the world by the balls, and they've decided to squeeze.
Let's face it -- the MS fans will bitch and whine, then they'll do as they're told. This is going to be a very good bottom-line move for Microsoft.
Lacking <sarcasm> tags,
If this is all true, I'll eat my hat.
The thing to look it is how this might affect legitimate corporate versions of XP--and by that, I mean VLK versions actually being used in an enterprise setting.
The company for which I work has more than 100,000 copies of XP running in offices on six continents, participating in one of the largest Active Directory installations in the world. Every system's load is tightly controlled and managed, and I can tell you that there are no copies of WGA anywhere on any of those desktops (I've seen the SMS reports). Nor will there ever be.
People say to "vote with your dollars", but your dollars, and my dollars, don't matter. Large corporate dollars matter--like the kind of dollars that can outfit a company's world-wide IT needs. WGA has no place on a configuration-controlled and managed enterprise desktop, and MS would never risk upsetting their real customers--corporate Windows & Office sales--to emplace something like this.
Nobody is moving to Linux because the games aren't there, the thousands of cheesy little Windows applications people love aren't there, it's different (read: scary), and it's a pain in the ass for most joe schmoes to install.
They might move to MACs. I've been doing windows support for decades and in the last several months, I've actually had some users ask about hooking their MACs into our network....I was shocked because these users are not savy with the tech. I would have thought moving to a MAC would be a big deal for them...but it wasn't.
I helpped them and I am hopeful about Apple's new sleek laptops. Doesn't hurt that they have such nice ads for the MACs now....
"Only one thing, is impossible for god: to find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." Mark Twain
You know, I'd love to know, HOW can Microsoft turn off copies without the WGA installed? Do they have some kind of back door that they had installed ages ago? Built into XP from when we installed it from binaries? That seems odd.
Rawr
Indeed it is.
Especilally to a user with a ten to fifteen years investment in Windows software and hardware to protect.
To him migration to Linux has all the appeal of root canal.
I'm guessing the functionality will be rolled into a critical security patch, if it hasn't already been. That seems like the most likely scenario.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
No... they won't need to migrate anything. Some fortune 500 company who didn't install windows correctly is gonna have all their computers shut off at once and MS is going to get sued like there's no tomorrow. And that'll pretty much be the end of WGA.
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I'd rather be flamed than ignored.
Others may have made similar points, but here's it is in a nutshell. Microsoft's claim to fame is that people don't know anything else. They are dependant upon Windows because they know that if they need help, most of the people they know use windows, and can't help with anything other than the few pieces of software that came prepackaged with their previous purchases. They do it because tech support personell are just looking for any excuse to say "not my problem", and if they find out you're not using Windows, hot damn, will their eyes light-up. In short, they are in the Windows camp because they have nowhere else to go.
If other operating systems start to creep their way out of the "niche audience" category, and into the "mainstream, yes, my freakin' grandmother has a copy (and no, i didn't install it for her)" category, then microsoft will soon find themselves competing again.
Right now, Windows' main competitor is piracy, which still gives them a monopoly. So, if half the world steals Windows, and the other half buys, then, no biggie; they can just charge double. But, if half the world uses the competition, they can't raise prices, for fear of losing the customers they have left.