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Ants Use Pedometers to Find Home

Ant writes "New Scientist (a short video clip included) reports that desert ants have an internal pedometer that keeps track of how many steps they take, according to a new study. The insects seem to rely on this system to find their way back to the nest after foraging. Other insects may also possess this pedometer-like system. Some types of ants appear to use visual cues or leave scent trails to find their way home. But desert ants have a remarkable ability to retrace their steps from their nesting site even though they travel on flat terrain that is devoid of landmarks, and any odors quickly fade in the hot temperatures."

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  1. Fun by Eightyford · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wouldn't it be fun to give the ants little shoes to make their legs longer? That would screw 'em up pretty good.

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  3. Great sense of direction by rramdin · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's actually a surprisingly complex system. They not only measure how much distance they've covered, but also every turn they've made. They basically "remember" a complete log of their journey, and are able to reset it every time they return to the nest.

    1. Re:Great sense of direction by Sir+Codelot · · Score: 4, Interesting
      So if you let an ant crawl onto your hand, then place it down somewhere else.. it will get lost?

      In fact I used to perform such "experiments" with ants. The ants at my place used scent trails. If I rub-off the scent trail left behind, the ants coming behind get dis-oriented for a while.
      And when I transport an ant manually to an unknown territory, it raises its head and looks around for familiar landmarks.
      Not all ants use scent trails. I found that the larger ones use the direction of a light source (or their shadow) to navigate to a place.

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  4. Humans have an internal pedometer too by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 5, Funny

    But it involves massive amounts of alcohol for it to work properly.

    Commenly called the beer scooter, it is a mechanism that guides you safley home to your bed, no matter how far away or how drunk you get. Its side effects can be unfortunate though as unexplained cuts and bruises plus a bank account severly depleted of funds are commen occurances upon awakening.

  5. Pretty neat... (plus link) by geerbox · · Score: 5, Informative

    From TFA, the video of the ant with stilts (worth a watch):

    http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/av/dn94 36.mpg

    Thought it was pretty neat; the ant begins to look like a spider with the longer legs. The video didn't seem to have any additional bearing to the study, though. You'd need to read TFA for how the stilts helped in their conclusion.

  6. I love entomology! by Assassin+bug · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of the few zoological fields were you can chop off your subjects legs without needing to sign any legal paperwork!

  7. Treadmill! by Assassin+bug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They should have constructed a mini treadmill (complete with moving walls) --seriously-- to see if the ants with normal legs still walk the same distance for a reward. That would really drive there point home.

  8. messing with the legs by seriv · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have to wonder with an experiment like this how the scientists went about modifying the ants. I would think that the ants would be disoriented a little by these changes, and the results might be affected in a way that would not have to do with the 'internal pedometer.' This might have been considered, but it might not have been.

  9. More details? by scribblej · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sure wish there were more information. If this is true; it's somewhat interesting. But with so little to go on, it could just as easily not be true.

    As the most obvious example to spring to mind; they tried ants with legs (we're left to assume) 50% longer that went 50% further than home and legs 50% shorter that only got halfway home. They then say this is because he counts steps -- obviously each step takes the one ant 50% further and the other 50% shorter.

    So what if the ant goes by the amount of time it's been traveling; nothing to do with counting steps at all --?

    You'd expect exactly the same results.

    I hope it's just the awful article -- if the study is so poor they've really learned nothing.

    1. Re:More details? by aschoff_nodule · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have an access to the article and according to the authors:

      The normal ants walk at average speed of 0.31 m/s
      Stumped ants walk at average speed of 0.14 m/s
      Stilted ants would be expected to walk faster. But their average speed was measured to be 0.29 m/s. They think its probably due to the increased weight of the glue and stilts.

      So, your argument regarding the time taken to travel back is probably not true.

      Furthermore, in their statistical modeling they adjusted for the speed of the ant among many other factors.

  10. Everything I need to know about ants... by Verminator · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... I learned from SimAnt

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  11. What if... by fireman+sam · · Score: 4, Funny

    What if I find one of these ants on its way home and I pick it up and move it back a few meters (or feet), would it therefore be forever destined to wander the Earth? Or will it just create a new home a few meters (or feet) from the original?

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  12. Side Crawlers by Atmchicago · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many beach/land crabs use the same system. They also have built-in abilities to make calculations on the quickest diagonal path to their burrow - ie the pythagorean theorem. One guy did some experiments where he would do things to mess up the step count of the crabs to their burrows, and they always were displaced by the exactly difference in step count. The crabs have no idea where their burrow is or what it looks like, they just know how to walk there. It must be the same in ants.

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  13. Ants may use Pedometers to find home... by HAKdragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    but I just use ~

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  14. They Keep Going, & Going by Joebert · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean that Ants are smarter than early versions of Windows ?

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  15. Your logic is false by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Since it is a round trip. So lets put it in human terms, say it is a 5 km walk to the shops. Are you as tired as when you arrive at the shops as you are when you return back home? Only if you spend the night at the shops and get a good nights sleep.

    So it can't be tiredness, that would only work for two seperate journeys, not a round trip.

    What could work is "fuel" consumption. This is probably the same both ways but again fails because the ant is on a feeding trip. He will be travelling empty on the way to the food source and carrying food on the return trip wich probably cause him to burn more fuel.

    Just get out the old car anology. Your "tired" idea translates then to the heat of the engine. a trip on even terrain should see the engine heat up to the same degree but on a round trip to the shops the engine would not cool down to the same level as when you started.

    The fuel consumption would also not work because on the return trip your car will be heavier.

    So how do we measure distance in a car? Oh wait with a pedometer like device wich same as with the ants will be screwed up if you change the size of your tires.

    Funny experiment, chopping legs of ants and giving them stilts. I bet that impresses the girls.

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    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  16. LSD or Weed? by capiCrimm · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm wondering which drug you have to take to come up with the idea to tie stilts onto ants? This just sounds like something a drunk guy would come up with, except that that normally ends with someone loosing some fingers and teeth, not a scientific article. Of course, both results have the same attractive results with women.

  17. ANTNet by PHanT0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's been a while since I worked on this, but these idea have been propagated through networking protocols for years. When I was in University at Dalhousie I spent quite a bit of time on a directed study of somethink called the 'AntNet Routing Protocol'.

    The idea was based on the pheramone trails left behind whne ants seek food. You see, one ant leaves behind a trail, not a big one, but a small scent to be picked-up by other ants. When it finds food, it will retrace it's steps backwards and double the intesity of the pheramone trail. If another ant happens upon a trail, it will follow the trail to the food and increase the trail's intensity again. If the trail ever ends without a prize, ants look around to try and pick-up the trail again. Simple concept, right?

    Adapting this behaviour from ants to packets on a network was easy. You had ants that walk forward and ants that walk backwards. Forward ants would collect hostnames, IP address and time stamps as they passed through any PC and kept going to their host. Backward ants updated the routing table when they retraced their steps. If any route had a lower cost (latency) then the entry already in the routing table, then an updated entry was posted. There was also a hidden advantage to all this - if, for any reason, a node went down or dropped off the network it was easily and quickly detected. Furthermore if a link went down, alternate routes were already in place if you kept double-layered routing table... quick, easy and fast network response times were the result. Consider time stamps like a tick on a pedometer...

    In case you're wondering, all computers on the network ran NTP to sync the time and give us one less hassle to worry about (this could be easily incorporated if need-be).

    My main area of research was to figure-out where and when the Ants started to impeed the network instead of help it. I found it to be a function of the number of discovery ants versus time and nodes on the network... some pretty rough math ensued from what I remember, but the time delta between discovery ants was paramount in any effective benefit to the network.

    Food for thought... or to the trail with the most ants. :-)

  18. Just what makes that little old ant... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Funny
    With apologies to Frank Sinatra...

    just what makes that little old ant
    think he can always find his way back?
    where ever he goes,
    that ant
    can't
    forget all the steps back!

    except if he's got hiigh heels
    or
    no legs paaast his knees
    if he got high on the apple pie
    and stared at the bees in the sky

    so whenever your funding's low
    maybe spent it all on blow
    just remember those ants...
    whoops there goes another research grant!
    whoops there goes another research grant!

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    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  19. MIT Mobile Robot Lab by JonTurner · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Jonathan Connell* built a mobile robot @ MIT which used a not too dissimilar system for navigation. It counted the number of doors that it passed through, and the number of turns to the left. This robot, Herbert, had the goal of collecting soda cans and would wander about the lab autonomously collecting these cans and returning home but making an appropriate number of entries through doorways and turns to the right using a magnetic compass as a rough guide. There was no internal map, no master plan, to 3D model of the world, no GPS yet this robot was able to navigate very complex, real-world spaces effectively. It's interesting to see that there's a biological model here that validates many of these assumptions.

    ** I hope I'm correct on the details... I'm going from memory from a reading of Connell's Master's Degree disseration I read probably ten years back... I believe the title was "Minimilist Mobile Robotics" but I'm certain it was published through Academic Press. This was one of the early MIT Mobile Robot Lab robots to use Subsumption Architecture.

  20. Pink Floyd by flickwipe · · Score: 4, Funny

    We dont need no pedometers. We dont need no leg control. Hey, researcher! leave those ants alone!

  21. Silver Saharan Ants are even more interesting. by Medievalist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't have a subscription to read the original article, but the glossy schtick pointed to in the original post was pretty weak: "we mutilated ants and they couldn't find their way home, and if I buy fish it won't rain on monday, so therefore they have a pedometer hidden inside their gasters!". Hopefully the original has more actual science.

    Silver ants (they look more like they are chrome-plated than silver) also live in the Sahara. They come out at the hottest time of day, when all predators are hiding, and they are extremely reflective. They have a special gait that allows them to keep half their feet off the sand in the shadow of their bodies, and they keep switching off so their feet don't cook. They move about in a fairly normal search pattern, but when they find something they run directly back to the nest without retracing their original route! Although they are believed to have good vision, their environment contains almost no visual cues - one sand dune's pretty much like another - and they will pass through territory they haven't seen on the way back to the nest.

    Silver ants are also very hive-oriented or "altruistic". Individual foragers will go past their survival distance looking for food, but they turn around and come back so that their dead bodies are within the survival distance and can be recovered by other foragers. That way, if there is a food/water source that is further out than an ant could travel without such resources, they will still find it and use it.

    All this is from memory and the wiki article is lame. If anybody has some good links for silver ants please post!