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MacBook Users Fix Trackpad Problem with Origami Paper

yonnage writes "Some Apple MacBook owners are plagued with what seems to be a defective trackpad button. The button, when pushed, seems "squishy" and sometimes even unresponsive. While these MacBook owners are getting turned away at the Apple Genius Bars, they have come up with a custom and unique solution to the problem. A piece of paper, placed strategically under the battery pack where the trackpad is located, seems to fix this problem for most users."

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  1. Could work, but for how long? by IntelliAdmin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks like the solution is to fold up a piece of paper, and put it under the actual mouse button. This might work for a little while, but it is a laptop. I can see this paper falling in some other part of the laptop, like say a fan or a hot battery - and you will have a more interesting problem of fire, or CPU death.

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  2. stupid Macbook tricks make frontpage? by Doppler00 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it that a silly trick like this makes front page of slashdot? If I submitted a blog article of how I used a toothpick to fix the mousebutton on a generic ACME brand laptop would anyone give a care?

    Same thing with this whole "discoloration" thing about the palm rests. People, laptops are machines, they wear out, they have flaws. It's like some people get so emotionally attached to their computer that if they see one flaw with it they have to write an article about it.

    1. Re:stupid Macbook tricks make frontpage? by Lehk228 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      because the mac fanboys always claim apple has the best hardware out there, but from here it looks like apple is just as bad, if not worse than the average PC maker.

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    2. Re:stupid Macbook tricks make frontpage? by ArbitraryConstant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "The somewhat recent changes to Apple's hardware quality are surprising considering the past obsessiveness with getting the design right."

      Tell that to my G3 iBook and its 6 logic boards.

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    3. Re:stupid Macbook tricks make frontpage? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Insightful
      They used to be the best. It looks like the move to Intel has been a lot more than just a processor move. These new Macbooks are plagued with problems that PC laptops have had for years, and some issues are even never-before-seen. I don't know if Apple just decided to disguise the cheapening of their laptop line with the chip move, but if they did, it's a big mistake.

      Um, Apple was having these sorts of problems loooong before the intel switch. Logic boards on iBooks? Hinges/latches on last gen powerbooks? Etc, etc, etc.

      The public is still being charged a premium price for comparitively less powerful hardware.

      I'm going to assume you completely missed the last 5 years of PowerPC development which ended up with a G4 chip that could barely run a calculator, and a G5 that would initiate nuclear fusion if placed into a laptop. They switched because they had basically no choice if the wanted to remain in the computer business.

      The move to standard hardware now provides consumers with a basis for comparison. Before, you couldn't compare megahertz to megahertz because the G3/G4/G5 processors were more efficient than standard desktop Intels. Now you can because Apple is using the same hardware, and they can't hide behind motorolla/ibm anymore.

      So now it's not that PowerPC is more powerful - it's just that they can't dupe consumers into thinking it is? How about just make good computers and let the public decide instead of lying to them? And if you're still trying to suggest that the new dual core Intel chips are slower than a G4, you're nuts. Talk to anyone who's used both.

      Software and software alone is what's driving Macintosh sales, since quality and performance are no longer viable selling points.

      One chip does not a whole machine make. Compare Thinkpads (pre Lenovo especially) with, say, eMachines - they both use Intel, but there the similarities stop. Honestly, as a latecomer to the Apple camp, I've never understood the obsession with microchips among a group of people who wouldn't recognize one if they were staring at it. Apple makes its money through an OS that many people feel is far superior to Windows, and by creating well-designed machines that are very functional and visually striking. This has not changed with the Intel switch. And like most makers of functional, pretty machines, something comes up lacking and sometimes that's component testing (kind of like a European sports car). But the thing is, that is NOT new.

    4. Re:stupid Macbook tricks make frontpage? by WinDoze · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've got a MacBook Pro (the "G" rev, which supposedly has most problems fixed), and it's a piece of shit. It gets so hot you can't hold it. The screen constantly flickers at you even if you disable the idiotic auto-brightness-adjustment. It makes an annoying buzzing sound about 3/4 of the time it's turned on. It blows through the battery in no time flat. The trackpad is installed incorrectly, and there are visible gaps and misalignments all over the casing. All this for $2,600? Luckily it's a work machine. After seeing this I'd never buy one for personal use.

  3. Why all the blogging? by Pliep · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Someone must explain something to me. I am a European (Netherlands) so possibly it's to do with consumer laws or something.

    When I buy a new computer / household device that does not live up to my expectations, I return it to the store and demand a refund or a new one that works properly. I always get what I want, including from vendors such as Apple.

    Now why does no-one in the blogosphere think of that? Why start fiddling around with pieces of paper, toothpicks, reinstalling software, "trying this and that because a friend told me". Why? WHY?

    GO BACK TO THE STORE AND DEMAND A PROPER PRODUCT!

  4. Not sure what it means by eyrieowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but the volume of posts I see on Slashdot and Digg about fixes for various MacBook problems both astound and amuse me. I could write it off as very poor quality control on Apple's part...and there may be something to that, but I wonder to what degree the Apple users are being more picky than the average bear.... I, for one, can't imagine buying, say, a Dell laptop and getting at all exercised about the clicky-ness of its buttons. But here we have evidence that not only has it bothered many MacBook owners, but one of them was so concerned that he gave it the thought to come up with a completely unusual solution to the problem. So...was the quality control really THAT bad? or are people just being very sensitive?

    1. Re:Not sure what it means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      but I wonder to what degree the Apple users are being more picky than the average bear

      You can't get a Mac without shelling out a reasonable amount of cash, so their customers are expecting a higher quality product than a bottom of the line Dell. Apple market themself as a high quality brand, while Dell market their products on value for money. Of cource Apple fans should be more picky, "you get what you pay for" and all that.......

  5. Re:Paper Over Hot Battery? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If your battery runs hot at 451F I think you're going to have problems either way.

  6. Re:Why did apple have to call it a Macbook? by apflwr3 · · Score: 2, Insightful


    So I think Apple is screwing themselves by combining the consumer and pro brand into 'MacBook'.

    Yeah. They should make a better laptop and call it "MacBook Pro." (cough.)

    The Nano, which was clearly designed to cheap and accessible, does not have the ruggedness of the original machines.

    As per the name, the Nano was designed to be smaller than the iPod. And it is. "Ruggedness" has nothing to do with it.

    Now, the Shuffle WAS designed to be the cheap and accessible iPod. But since it's flash-based, encased in plastic and has no screen, it's actually the most rugged of the three. The only way to kill a Shuffle is to drop it in water.

  7. Re:One thing all these MacBook problems have shown by ratbag · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To provide a bit of balance - my Powerbook was delivered with what turned out to be a faulty PSU. One call led to the machine being collected the next day (at my request) and replaced. Since then I've had no problems whatsoever. More importantly, I'm enjoying using the best user OS out there, since I didn't take one dodgy machine to mean that all Apples are now completely unreliable.

    And before someone feverishly responds "What does one data point prove?", I only mention this episode because someone is extrapolating a few noisy bloggers into "Apple's after-sales service seems to suck". I feel no need to make excuses for the supplier of my computer and OS, but my experience of Apple's after-sales has been wholly positive.

    So label me "fan-boy": I think this platform deserves fans in a way that maybe vanilla PCs don't. I'm also a fan-boy for HP's DL380 servers, which is my bread-and-butter machine at work, in case you're interested.

  8. Re:Why did apple have to call it a Macbook? by anti-drew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The GP is correct about the way Apple has changed their branding strategy.

    Old:
    * Brand: PowerBook
    * Brand: iBook

    New:
    * Brand: MacBook
    * Brand Extension: MacBook Pro

    I'm sure Jobs would hate the comparison to fizzy water, but it's sort of like the transition from Coke/Tab to Coke/Diet Coke. Diet Coke is a brand extension of Coke. It's a definite consolidation under the new name. But really, I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing and Apple is screwing themselves. It puts more weight behind the Mac name, and that might be a smart move if they want the Mac to seriously make inroads in marketshare.

  9. FUD tag by skinfitz · · Score: 2, Insightful



    Cue FUD tag on this story in 3...2..1..

  10. All about the Apple Care problem by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've had excellent results when dealing with apple, however there seems to be a problem with their system. If you call to an operator and say, "I'd like to make a warranty claim", they will make the claim as long as you emphasize that it is for a faulty part. Otherwise, if you say, "My computer randomly shuts off" they will say you need phone support, because in essence, they are helping you diagnose a problem. I talked to one lady at AppleCare telling her I needed to make a warranty claim, and she said that I would need to purchase the three year plan so that I can get the one year of phone support. I asked her how to make a direct warranty claim, and she said I can't do that, I have to go though her, and purchase the agreement with the phone support. She told me I needed to pay $49/hr if I took the machine to a Genius Bar for them to diagnose and send it off. She spread FUD. Their purpose isn't to help people, it is to get those plans sold and extended. They are going about the whole thing the wrong way. "AppleCare sales are low, push them!" The applecare system needs to be revised. It used to be that the Genius Bar provided free help, and that you shouldn't have a problem with getting defective things fixed. I can see charging tech support over the phone to a certain extent (maybe each call gets a free 30 min, or everyone gets 30min/week for free based on your phone #/appleID), but this is just ridiculous. I'd be a much happier apple customer if they would simply help people without all this garbage. I feel like I'm taking an HP laptop to the GeekSquad whenever I talk to Apple. Like they are trying to make a buck off my problem with their product!

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  11. I could never understand that, either by melted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I bought a Mac mini a few months ago and experienced wireless issues. I took it to the store and had it back in three days with wireless seeing some access points in the vicinity that I wasn't even previously aware of.

    But you should see the GIGANTIC thread about this issue in Apple forums. Folks try everything except for the right thing - take it to the store and have it repaired or replaced. Some folks have been posting into that thread for MONTHS.

  12. Re:OMFGPONIEZ!!! Apple laptops have problems ?! by The+Wooden+Badger · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When you think about them running ads saying "It just works" everything comes into focus. Add to that the legions of Mac zealots.

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  13. This is too true by Flying+pig · · Score: 4, Insightful
    It's sad (but understandable) that IBM sold to the Chinese, because the combination of Ubuntu 6.6 and a Thinkpad is pretty good. This is in fact Apple's problem. The rest of the world has caught up and you CAN have rock solid industrial strength *Nix on a reliable laptop. I'm sorry, but dock icons that rise to meet you are a CGI too far for real world users. When I bought an Acer two and half years ago because there was no G5 Powerbook, people told me it would be an unreliable piece of crap. Actually it is solid, has never gone wrong, the battery still holds over 90% of original charge, and the only thing it lacks is built in Bluetooth. With an upgrade to a Maxtor 5400rpm drive and Ubuntu 6.6, it's still my main machine.

    I watched a demo on a 17" X86 Powerbook the other day and I decided the ONLY real selling point was the screen, for road warriors. The downside is that in order to get the very thin design they must have made compromises, and I bet this is at the root of both the battery problems and the trackpad problems. Lots of research has gone into making reliable batteries with rolled construction - it is much harder to make a reliable thin battery.

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  14. Re:Other MacBook problems by Quantum+Fizz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seems like you've made up your mind, but you might seriously want to consider the ACTUAL frequency of these problems, or whether it's just a few noisy bloggers. That said, go with the solution you truly think would be happiest, instead of being swayed by bloggers eitherway. Better than living in a world of buyer's remorse.

  15. Re:Other MacBook problems by node+3 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    1. the bottom gets very hot (one person compared it to a vulcano), not suitable for laptop work
    All fast Intel notebooks get hot. Apple users are used to the cooler running G3's and G4's. That said, there were a number of units that ran exceptionally hot. Every report I've read where someone with that problem actually tried to have it replaced got a new one.

    2. plastic around the screen likes to come off
    Never heard this one. As long as you didn't abuse it, I'd expect Apple would replace it.

    3. the white MacBooks get "stained" where people rest their hands. These stains cannot be cleaned with any kind of a cleaning agent.
    Actually, nail polish remover (non-acetone, non-isopropyl alcohol kind) does the trick. Also, this happens to a small number of people. Perhaps if you just have unlucky skin chemistry?

    4. trackpad problems like this one.
    Test one out at the Apple Store.

    In fact, I suggest looking at all of those issues at the Apple Store. I tested the heat on the MacBooks/MacBook Pros, which are all running full-time on power, and while they were all warm, they were not "OMFG BBQ!" hot.

    In the end, pick the computer you think will serve you best. If you do decide to get a MacBook, you're already ahead of the game by being aware of the problems others are having, and can quickly take it to Apple for replacement. I would definitely check out the heat and the trackpad on the display models so at least you'll have reasonable expectations.
  16. Re:Why did apple have to call it a Macbook? by bky1701 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can go out right now and buy a SHIT HP laptop and it will probably not have major heat problems/keyboard/explode, and if it does, I can just phone up HP and they will replace it or fix it, yet the "far better" apple totally unsupports their (still costly) lower end line? BS.

  17. Should be a sign: Early Adopters beware! by ducomputergeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone that has followed Apple products over the years knows not to purchase the first generation of any Apple redesign. I did buy the 1st generation snow white iBook (the ones with all the Logic Board problems) and I had reservations from the git go, but timing was the big issue. (I was leaving the country for a year and needed a new laptop, fortunatly I was back home before the problems began) I had a friend that is an Apple Early adopter. He had about a 1-yr old PowerBook (1.25Ghz, 2GB RAM, all the other fixings) the he sold to me for a going rate below Ebay so he could get one of the brand new MacBookPro's. So far he's happy, although the week after he bought it he realized there wasn't any software available and he had to run everything through rosetta. This PowerBook should last me a couple years at least into Law School at which point all the major software applications (office, PS, Pro Tools, etc.) will be converted and any design flaws caught and fixed (hopefully). The lesson here is: (and goes for any technology really) Early Adpotors beware!

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  18. Re:Worse than the average PC maker? by tdemark · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do you mean the quality of the hardware components chip for chip, USB plug for USB plug etc.... it would surprise me if Apple hardware turned up better in such a comparison since Apple sources these components from the same manufacturers as everybody else.

    This truism is always brought up in this (and similar) conversations, but I don't buy it.

    No manufacturing process has a 0% failure rate. As such, you can "buy" quality by negotiating a price with smaller failure tolerances:

    $x per unit with failure tolerance A.
    $2x per unit with a failure tolerance of A/2.

    Now, I am not saying that Apple does this, but saying that two companies that use the same source will have the same quality is not a straight forward as you think it is.

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  19. Kindling? by briglass · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Aren't these devices wont to begin aflame? I'm sure the added kindling won't help!

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  20. Re:Worse than the average PC maker? by admdrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sigh... you're trolling, but I'll bite:

    Mac fanboys, such as myself, claim Apple makes better computers for other reasons. One example is that when you compare a PowerBook or a MacBook to the average PC laptop the PC looks like a concrete sidewalk paving-slab.

    This is one of the huge problems I have with fanboys... I respect when a machine can look good, but it's hardly something I value very high. Sure, Mom and Dad don't want an ugly machine... but how does the case make a mac a better computer? If toting your macbook around so that people will envy how sexy it looks is what you do, then you have little authority to decide the quality of a computer. There's a word for people like that.

    The superiority of Apple hardware resides mostly in superior design, the fact that Apple usually loads their machines with the very latest hardware, excellent support and they also keep their value very well.

    You mentioned previously the hardware in a mac comes from the same place as the rest of the PCs out there, and 'very latest hardware' isn't entirely accurate. Where's the 64 bit CPUs in the mac laptops (or in consumer desktops, for that matter)? For $2000 you get 512MB of RAM and a mid-level graphics card... hardly top of the line. Not to say the other PC manufacturers do better, but your claim of the "very latest" doesn't stand.

    I just sold a three year old G4 PowerBook for about three times what I would have gotten for a WinDell laptop of similar vintage.

    So even old, outdated macs are overpriced? I feel a little bad for the person/institution you conned into paying more for a 5 year old system. Also, since when do PCs appreciate in value? I've always recommended that you recycle your old computers by donating them to people or places that need them (there's a soup kitchen in my hometown that took my parents' old packard bell and used it for an accounting computer).

    I have had numerous issues with hardware component falilure in Apple computers but I have also never had the slightest difficutly with getting these defects straightened out under warranty.

    This is kind of an odd way to argue in favor of Apple's support. I'd rather have an actual working product over stellar customer support. I guess I've been rather lucky in that I've only had two products DOA (motherboard and video card) and only one component fail (a stick of RAM). None of those problems existed with entire systems I've purchased; those particular machines have never had a problem, so dealing with customer service was a non-issue.

    If you buy a bulk quality Wintel box from a random crapware manufacturer and have any issues with it geting it repaired, even under warranty, can be a daunting task and you will soon find that it ages faster than the high end gear due to it being loaded with hardware that is already obsolescent.

    Do you have any basis to this? What if the machines actually *work*? Then, really, does it even matter if the support is non-existant? (also, you probably wanted to use "obsolete," as "already obsolescent" is kinda awkward (it means "already becoming obsolete"))