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Copying Antler-Structure Means Better Prosthetics

tygerstripes writes "The BBC reports that a breakthrough in prosthetic technology will allow titanium to be grafted directly to the bone and then protrude from the skin without risking infection. Research by the Centre for Bio-Medical Engineering, UCL and Stanmore Implants looks into the way that the structure and porosity of deers' antlers prevents infection from entering the break in the skin. Early trials and a fairly gruesome picture show that by mimicking this they can successfully provide amputees with more comfortable, permanent prosthetics. Combined with bionic muscle and other recent developments, we may be very close to fully-integrated prosthetics."

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  1. Time Frame in USA by neonprimetime · · Score: 1

    He said that the technology could be widely used for thumb and forefingers in a few years, and upper and lower limb replacements using this method could be in place in five years.

    And after it gets thru all the proper channels, approval stages, etc in the USA we're talking the year 2050 at the earliest.

    1. Re:Time Frame in USA by Big_Breaker · · Score: 1

      Or you could just fly to a country that offered the new prosthetic - assuming you can pay. If I had a disabling amputation it would be a no brainer.

      Many people have disability insurance anyhow. Take a lump sum settlement, buy a replacement part and pocket the difference. You do lose some essence in the bargain, though.

  2. Unfortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...the titanium is shed after mating-season and has to be reattached.

  3. Wolverine by Kesch · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, when can I get my titanium claws?

    P.S. Figure out how to do this with adamantium for authenticity.

    P.P.S. You may have to create adamntium first.

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    1. Re:Wolverine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      So, when can I get my titanium claws?
      I'm quite sure you'll regret that decision later, staring at some porn.
    2. Re:Wolverine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've figured out how to make adamantium! ...unfortunately this technique requires an equal quantity of Unobtainium:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unobtainium

      So sorry, you may be SOL.

  4. Oblig Star Wars by Andrew+Nagy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does that mean Obi Wan meant to say, "He's more John Deere now, than man"?

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  5. I see they have their priorities ordered... by drinkypoo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The next stage, he added, would be to carry out trials on upper and lower limb replacements.

    He said he expected victims of last year's London bombing attacks who lost limbs to be involved.

    Great. So there's been people sitting around for literally decades waiting for advances like this, and they're going to give them to people who are victims of recent terrorist bombings, because it's more mediagenic.

    Sometimes it seems like everyone is evil.

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    1. Re:I see they have their priorities ordered... by theStorminMormon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How is this "insightful"? If this is all it takes for you to see evil, then it's no wonder you see everyone as evil. You need to seriously take a step back and breathe.

      It's entirely possible that the reason they want to use people from the bombings of less than a year ago is that people who've been amputees already have artificial limbs and rather than make them go through the hassle of experimenting with something that may or may not work (artifical limbs are very expensive to customize, take a long time to make, and take an even longer time to fully adjust) they want to go with people who probably don't have artificial limbs yet.

      I'm not saying I know what's going on, but there are a lot of reasons why this could have nothing to do with politics or evil and everything to do with getting the experiments and trials done as quickly as possible while causing the minimal amount of pain and discomfort to everyone involved.

      Until you have any idea why they are making this decision - why jump to conlusions?

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    2. Re:I see they have their priorities ordered... by Smidge204 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well I'm sure they were deliberately supressing research on this just to fuck with the people who've been missing limbs for years. And of course you can easily twist those words to make it seem like only victims of that attack will be given access to the technology.

      Or it could be that the bombing was just a recent, widely known event that can be used to stir emotions and pique interest in the research. Average Joe loses a leg because he didn't use jack stands while working on his car? Sad, but it doesn't compare to dozens of people killed and hundreds injured in a terrorist attack. Maybe something like that just sticks into the researcher's minds and becomes more of a motivation? Or maybe he was personally effected by it?
      =Smidge=

    3. Re:I see they have their priorities ordered... by ardyng · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's also possible they want to try things out with people who have fresh amputations, who's bodies aren't neccesarily completely healed yet, as they'd have to cut into tissue to fuse the new implants. I'm by no means a specialist about prosthetics, but when you're wearing a cup-style device wouldn't the tissue between the joint and the cup get worn down?

      Also, these people won't have already learnt skills related to their current prosthetics, so they won't be 'biased' as to how they work. Kinda like trying to re-teach someone a modern coding language after they've learnt basic.

      That, and what the other poster said. These people are waiting without limbs now. People who've had issues for longer most likely already have them.

  6. Gross by Eightyford · · Score: 1, Redundant
    ...will allow titanium to be grafted directly to the bone and then protrude from the skin without risking infection.
    Gross!
    1. Re:Gross by r_a_trip · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No. Absolutely beautiful! This technology will most probably enable amputees to overcome the stigma of having a prosthetic limb. This technique allows to tightly integrate the artificial body part seemlessly. That certainly is not gross, but a Godsend.

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    2. Re:Gross by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Dude, don't knock it. Normally, you wouldn't see the protruding metal stub, which is just an attachment point, but rather the cosmetic (and hopefully functional) prosthetic. Hopefully, by having such a secure attachment point, future prosthetics can do away with the big plastic cup/socket and straps that get used today, which would make them less obtrusive and function more like replacement limbs.

      If you were an amputee, I doubt you'd mind.

    3. Re:Gross by Nutria · · Score: 1

      Normally, you wouldn't see the protruding metal stub, which is just an attachment point, but rather the cosmetic (and hopefully functional) prosthetic.

      The only new technique is the "antler mesh". Dentists have been using this same "post and prosthetic" scheme for about 15 years.

      I had to have a tooth pulled back in the early 1990s (wow, has it been that long?), and they drilled a hole in my jaw, and implanted a small Ti post. When it healed a month later, they shoved on the false tooth.

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  7. Oh Deer by improfane · · Score: 2, Funny

    Deer me.

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  8. Just Wait by spykemail · · Score: 1

    I can't wait for cyborgs to become a voting block, we'll have to have seperate sports leagues so they don't hurt us poor plain "biologics."

  9. legup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well thats one way to get a leg up on the competion in the prostestics industry.

  10. obligatory family guy quote by krnpimpsta · · Score: 2, Funny

    What the deuce?
    Half man, half machine.
    Why with that technology, I could escape these wretched harridans!
    Go, cyborg!

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  11. Time Frame in USA Instant solutions Just add water by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "And after it gets thru all the proper channels, approval stages, etc in the USA we're talking the year 2050 at the earliest."

    Would you rather have another thalidomide baby?

  12. gruesome? by Elminst · · Score: 2, Insightful

    that picture is gruseome?
    Wow, the submitter must have the constitution of a nervous gerbil.

    I think that picture is pretty frickin cool, and want to see more. Anyone have more links to examples of this?

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    1. Re:gruesome? by TeknoHog · · Score: 1, Troll
      that picture is gruseome? ... I think that picture is pretty frickin cool, and want to see more. Anyone have more links to examples of this?
      http://rotten.com/
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    2. Re:gruesome? by Elminst · · Score: 1

      I meant of the prosthetic tech, you sicko.

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  13. Holy Grail of Prosthetics by jameskojiro · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The integration of Prosthetics w/o infection is a kinda holy grail of prosthetics, Now we will beable to make dataports that are merged witht he skin with ease. Also the ability to say make a prosthetic hand that uses the existing muscle in the forearm for movement and have it installed full time!!! Most prostetics have to be taken off at night tio give the skin some time to rest due to irritation and whatnot, now they can left on 24/7 and designed to be move like natural human body parts. Merge a little more robotics tech and in several more years primitive versions of "Ghost in the Shell" type cyborgs may become closer to reality.

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  14. I see they have their priorities ordered-sour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Until you have any idea why they are making this decision - why jump to conlusions?"

    His half-empty glass was quickly filling up.

  15. Oh my aching knees by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    Great, I hope they get this to work because my doctor says I will probably need knee replacement surgery in about 10 years.

  16. I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...welcome our new cyborg overlords

  17. Already doing this in europe by lapagecp · · Score: 1

    The concept that titanium fused with bone was discovered years ago when doctors thought "Hey lets use titanium cause its stronger then other materials and then went to remove it and found that the bone had fused with the titanium at a molecular level. In europe they have been doing this for years now but the FDA is slow to approve new technology and of course there is the problem with infection but what they don't tell you is that the risk of infection with a titanium graft that protrudes from the skin is more managable then the infection from the sores that develope where a traditional prosthetic is attached. Now it will be interesting when we replace fingers buy just puting a titanium piece in place of the bone and graft the muscle directly to it.

  18. Movement control categories by doc+modulo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What I'm interested in is if there's already been a third kind of prosthetic movement control system invented.

    My personal categorization of the different kinds of movement of prosthetic limbs:
    1. On/off movement in any direction, like your limb was controlled by the digital joypad of a console.
    2. Variable speed movement in any given direction, like your prosthetic limb was controlled by an analog joystick of a console.
    3. Absolute positioning of your limb, like the new Nintendo Wii controller or a mouse.

    Is there anything like my third category available? Together with this new grafting technology it would mean almost complete recovery for amputees.

    I know that the human body doesn't track it's own limb positions in real-time, even in normal mammals, but human movement is still more like category 3 than the other two.

    Is there something similar out already? I read an article about a guy who's arm prosthesis was directly attached to an arm nerve. Paraphrased: "I could move it as if it was real, I just had to think about moving my arm".

    So any info on category 3 movement controls will be appreciated, interesting stuff.

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    1. Re:Movement control categories by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      > Absolute positioning of your limb, like the new Nintendo Wii controller or a mouse.

      Do you mean kinesthesia, the sense that detects bodily position, weight, or movement of the muscles, tendons, and joints? Most people's sense of kinestheia for their limbs is linked with visual feedback, like hand-eye coordination. If you're outdorrs, and asked to point at something, you're getting real-time visual feedback on whether your limb is pointing accurately at what you intended to point at. Same with ballet dancers practicing in front of mirrors.

    2. Re:Movement control categories by doc+modulo · · Score: 1

      Yes, that's what I mean. But the way I understand it, only visual feedback is real-time. The body trains it's muscles so they know that a certain amount of muscle activation for a certain amount of time will place the arm into a certain position. If you take away the visual feedback and you paralyze the arm, the same muscle activation will do nothing for the arm, but the human will still feel/think, kinesthetically, that her arm is in a certain position.

      That's why I said that human limb movement is not exactly in category 3, absolute movement, but something close to it.

      Movement of a prosthetic limb will therefore also not be completely in category 3, absolute movement, but it'll be more like a snapshot in Counter-Strike, you train your brain/spine that a certain amount of activation of the prosthesis' "muscle" for a certain amount of time will yield a certain position. Human limb movement is somewhere inbetween category 2 and 3. If you have visual feedback it's almost completely in category 3. Otherwise it's like a very precise/high-resolution analog control method.

      Is there something like that out there for prosthetic limbs? Are you guys working on it?

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    3. Re:Movement control categories by tomlouie · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I don't have any knowledge of the field beyond what I've read.

      Regarding kinesthetical feedback, I know that it can be expanded beyond just visual feedback. There's been research on biofeedback training where patients have gained voluntary control over normally involuntary bodily responses using audio cuess from a connected biofeedback machine.

      http://www.google.com/search?q=biofeedback+gastric +acid

      On a related note, Radio Shack used to see these $20 little blue boxes that squealed at various pitches depending on your galvanic skin resistance. Don't think they sell them anymore.

  19. Re:Time Frame in USA Instant solutions Just add wa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would you rather let 100 people die from not releasing a cure? or let 1 die from releasing too fast? I think you would prefer 100 dead, others might disagree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fda#Regarding_incenti ve_to_delay_approval_of_new_drugs

  20. Re:Oh my protruding knees by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    um... we already have knee replacement. did you mean that you want your kneecaps replaced, and protruding through the skin? built-in kneepads? exactly how much kneeling do you do?