How big is your house. I can not image a situation where it would be so hot that it required $250 a month to cool your house but your pool was still to cold to use without a heater. Still I think you were missing my point. Do you have an air conditioner that is equip to be liquid cooled? What do you think it will cost to get one, or retro fit your existing one. How about pipe the water from the pool to your condenser? Once you are all done your air conditioner isn't going to be able to raise the temp of your pool much at all. What are you going to use to supplement.? Lets put these costs in perspective. A 2008-2010 Energy Star refrigerator uses around 500kWh's per year. That's $75 a year at 15 cents a kWh. So lets say you have a unit that can use the outside air when its cold. What percentage of the year is it cold enough to do so. Lets say that between the refrigerator and freezer its cold enough on average 50% of the year. That's a savings of around $37.50 a year. Until they get mainstream its going to most likely take over 10 years for that system to pay for itself if ever.
The problem with a lot of these questions is analogous to "Why don't you stop your car to pick up a penny when you drive by one." Its a tremendous amount of work for very little pay out. It doesn't make any sense to try an get the heat produced by your air conditioner to your pool heater when a very cheap solar heater will give you a much greater payout for much less.
Catholics are encouraged to read the Bible NOW. This was far from always true. To me, going to church is like letting someone watch your kids that was in the past a pedophile. Basically what you are saying is that we should all look at the Church today and not hold its past atrocities against it. Well I see plenty wrong with the modern Catholic Church so I guess it's past doesn't really matter to me.
Just because you don't see the point doesn't mean there isn't one. We have a few Ipads at the office and I can tell you they are great for meetings. We have our agenda's on google docs, so I can pull up the agenda and follow along, check my mail, send mail. I think tablets are what laptops were suppose to be. A portable computer. Sure its not as nice as my desktop but it gets the job done when I am not near mine. I honestly think laptops are a fad. I have a desktop at home and another at work. What I need is a smartphone with a bigger screen and better specs.
I was just over at the in laws. Mother in law had a netbook, I had a netbook, sister and law had an ipad (yeah we don't talk much over there). I had to plug my netbook in when my battery died, and I was looking at the ipad with envy the whole time. If I had brought the family laptop I still would have been starring at the ipad with envy, its lighter, and the form factor is better for use in the recliner.
Sure if you want to be intentionally obtuse about it. The point of "Any time you need to ask the question.....then the answer is no" is to emphasize a very important concept. Most of us have a pretty good idea of what is ethical and what is not. Of course some people don't have this ability and some things may seem ethically wrong when upon closure inspection there is no problem. These are the exceptions to the rule.
"As long as you don't question it, it's ethical" Again with the being obtuse. Clearly whether or not you question something has nothing to do with how ethical it is.
We people come up with crap like this I imagine I am having a conversation with a genie. You wish for a million dollar's do you, I kill your parents. Don't ever want to work again, put you in a coma, want to be able to fly, turn you into a fly. Whenever you have a debate its incumbent on both parties to respect each other and accept their comments in good faith. Making sarcastic reductio ad absurdum statements can sometimes be a flash way to point out an error in logic but it can't be your golden hammer without losing you a lot of credibility in my book.
I was sitting very still with a mug of coffee at my side when it all happened. I first looked over my shoulder to see if a train was coming by. Then I panicked thinking there might be a T-Rex stalking me. Thankfully it was just Canada acting up again.
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Comments like this reveal just how little most people know about libertarians. Libertarians would say I am not buying a heart monitor for my kid because its not necessary. The school should not buy a heart monitor for my kid because thats not necessary and since I pay school taxes its the same as me buying the monitor. If the insurance companies want the data they can offer to pay me for the data and I may or may not have my kid wear the device. Also in a libertarian society people who do not want to give up there data to big business are the norm not the exception. If insurance companies wanted to discount insurance for giving that data thats fine and yes refusal would be fine too but you have to take your scenario to its logical conclusion. If there are a bunch of people being refused insurance then I am going to make a killing offering them insurance. Chances are they won't use it much because they are the paranoid type to begin with.
Don't you mean "if whoever was helping with the extracurricular activities knew more about everything than the child being taught. Sure its hard to be an expert at everything but its not hard for an above average person to be better than your average school teacher. I would be very confident that I could educate my child through middle school. Then for highschool a combination of traditional classes for a dose of "normal", and college courses for some real learning.
Like say....10 YEARS. Look at what we have learned to do in the last 10 years and then remember that we are learning exponentially so imagine 10 years from now having made 10 times the advancements we have made in the past 10 years. Its really not that far fetched. If you would have told me when I was 20 that when I turned 30 I would carry around a computer more powerful than my computer at 20 and it would have a 5 mega pixel camera and the ability to record video and have wireless internet, a GPS, and oh yeah make phone calls and all of that would cost less than half of what I paid for my computer. Well I probably would have said yeah that sounds about right.
Oh good point...no wait we could just hook the brain up to second life, or WOW. The assumption is that we just modeled a human brain and you really think that modeling an arm is going to be tricky?
How sure are you? Tell you what StripedCow, let me throw it back at you. Lets say your going to die in 24 hours, or......I can replace your brain by a small supercomputer. I guarantee that the observable you will not change. Will you do it then. Ok lets say you won't, are you sure no one would, what if 100 people have done it and they seam fine, still not onboard? What if spouse wants to do it to stave of death? What if its your child.
I am sure you would never have your heart replaced by a dead guys either.
Yeah and if we can take another picture right after then we have two MRI pics and if we do this enough times and fast enough its a moving picture, lets call it a movie. So know we know what it looks like and we get to see it work. Thats pretty much all we have ever needed to make a copy of anything. Just because its biological doesn't make it magic.
The guy looking to buy a computer is not IT savy at all. The problem is that the customer has not told the IT Pro what he wants. He told the IT Pro what he thinks will solve his problem. Most people understand the concept I am talking about better when it comes to health care. You don't go to your doctor and say I want Lipitor. If you do, your doctor is not just going prescribe you your drug of choice. You tell your doctor your problem and what you want for an outcome. Then the doctor helps you decide. A client asking for a computer that lasts 15 years is equal wrong. The answer is always going to be, that's impossible, what are your concerns, what is the problem you are trying to solve. Now lets think of a solution that comes as close to that mark as possible. If your client wants a computer that will last 15 years and you give them a computer that could last 15 years you are not doing your job. If you have a computer that will last 15 years then your client can not afford it. I can easily give a client a computer that will last a long long time and be really easy to fix should something go wrong.
I have to strongly disagree with your entire argument. How are a bunch of usb flash drives laying around any different than a bunch of BluRay disks laying around? Put them in a nice case that sits on a shelf and people won't care. Many dvd players, BluRay players, HDTV's oh yeah and computers have USB ports these days. Joe Sixpack 5 years ago didn't have a laptop with wifi either but these days Joe does. Who is to say what Joe Sixpack will and will not know how to do in 5 years? Every thing is moving toward wireless. A wireless HD standard is on the table and one will be picked and standard in TV's in 5 years. Apple TV is out of range today. 5 years from now who is to say. An xbox 360 is getting lowered to 200 bucks. 200 dollars is the magic price point where Joe Sixpack can afford one. It has usb and an internet connection. Xbox 360 is releasing a netflix streaming option. With more and more people connected every year my guess is that in 5 years we will all stream our HD movies.
No. Trainers know that training at that level is very risky and so they put it off as long as possible. You would ramp up your training 6 months to a year out. Prior to that you would work on all of the parts of a routine but not actually do the routine. They dismount into pools of foam blocks and things like that.
Your sarcasm is not lost on me. Unfortunately it doesn't invalidate my point. By the same logic we shouldn't drug test... and of course it is a well known fact that drug tests are infallible. I am not an athlete but my family trains and races horses. To succeed in horse racing you have to race horses that are way too young. Training a young animal, human or horse, to compete at the highest levels requires you to hold off pushing the animal to its limits as long as you can. The trick is to give the animal as much time to develop while still ramping up training soon enough to compete. If you pay no heed to the future health of the animal then you can start much sooner. The rule is designed to create a level playing field where trainers of gymnasts can reign in the intensity of training to decrease the risk of permanent damage to bones and normal development. I am not saying the system is perfect but that's not an excuse for China to get away with forging documents to allow a 14 year old to compete.
The gymnast must be 16 in the year of the Olympics so 15 going to be 16 this year is fine. The issue is a human rights one not a skill based one. A 14 year old has an advantage in that they have stronger muscles pound for pound and are not encumbered by such things as developing chest and hips. For me the big issue as stated prior is the toll being a gymnast takes on a 14 year old. In order for a 14 year old to have the skill to compete they must eat and breath the sport for many years prior and this can have long lasting negative effects on their health. Athletes under the age of 16 are considered children by most countries and getting a gold as a gymnast requires a person to consciously decide to risk their long term health for that gold something a child is not capable of doing. This is just another example of China casting aside human rights in order to further their agenda.
I think the point is that humans suck at perceiving time. If I say that I can model you as a human and predict your actions based on what I know about your brain, molecules, subatomic particles then something in most humans brains snaps and they say "OH no but if I don't choose my own destiny than what does it matter what I do and blah blah blah." I personally believe that our notion of free will is a result of our brains being locked in time. I really hate when people get to a point where their understanding of particle physics or the nature of time leads them to start thinking about free will. You just can not gain anything in my opinion asking whether or not our free will is true free will or not. We are bound by our perception of time and if that every changes then the destruction of free will will be the least of our concerns.
Your single premise is not being overlooked. The problem is that where by you may not see a 749 times the going rate for a product as being cruel you would be nearly alone in that view. Like you said the RIAA is not the government and they are entitled to sue for what they have lost. I and others here are arguing that they have not lost $749 dollars for a single song and that the punitive damages are cruel. The important point that I think you are overlooking is that the defendant in this case was a minor. Suing a minor for the amounts the RIAA does is very much cruel.
What are you talking about. First of all if you steal a stick of gum you are going to be let go with a stern warning. At most you will be asked to pay for the gum. Now if you actually were to get taken to court for your offense you would get virtually no punishment on your first offense and if it cost you over 1000 dollars in a defense attorney I would be surprised. Now the point being made is that if you were steal a whole pack of gum you are not going to get a separate punishment for each stick of gum and if you were to have stolen 10 packs of gum you will not get 10 times the punishment. 750 dollars per song is gruel and unusual by any definition. I would love to hear a good argument as to how a person downloading say 10 songs deserves 7500 dollars in damages. Lets keep in mind folks that this is in most cases the same music that is literally being broadcasts into every corner of the earth for our listening pleasure for free.
This is really not ok. Since when and I mean seriously people since when is storing the answer to a question in a database patentable. I mean think about all the things that you have missed out on patenting. What if I want to make a database of all my friends and store whether or not they would be receptive to viewing a particularly impressive quantity or shape of feces I have just produced. Should I patent that. Come on people they patented storing the answer to a specific question in a database. The only thing keeping me from a complete break down is that I did not RTFA.
Ok I rarely pull the nanny state argument but this is rediculious. Its one thing to ban people smoking in a confined space filled with non smokers and its another to get congress together to ban people talking on their phones cause its annoying. This is a giant waste of time. How much money do you think it will cost to debate this in congress. Think of how much time and effort goes into each line item of a bill. Fix a bridge or something.
CRAP...Solar powered cars will work just fine as soon as we slap a 1.5 square meter solar panal on the top of the car and another 4.5 square meter panel over the parking spot. Or a damn plug at parking spot. Or one at your house. Sure we aren't going to have a 100 solar powered car any time soon but who cares. An electric car that is charged by solar power made at my house or at my job is just as good.
You mean a tree? I mean that's basically what a tree is. Its a mass of hollow tendrils filled with wood that is created from the dead cells of itself. The tendrils reach up into the sky and down into the dirt. Never heard of one changing its genetic code on the fly and not sure about the whole growing a brain or genetic memory but then again we haven't necessarily cataloged all plant life either.
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Not all vaccinations are 100% efficacious and vaccinations do not contribute to antibiotic resistance. Dude where have you been?
How big is your house. I can not image a situation where it would be so hot that it required $250 a month to cool your house but your pool was still to cold to use without a heater. Still I think you were missing my point. Do you have an air conditioner that is equip to be liquid cooled? What do you think it will cost to get one, or retro fit your existing one. How about pipe the water from the pool to your condenser? Once you are all done your air conditioner isn't going to be able to raise the temp of your pool much at all. What are you going to use to supplement.? Lets put these costs in perspective. A 2008-2010 Energy Star refrigerator uses around 500kWh's per year. That's $75 a year at 15 cents a kWh. So lets say you have a unit that can use the outside air when its cold. What percentage of the year is it cold enough to do so. Lets say that between the refrigerator and freezer its cold enough on average 50% of the year. That's a savings of around $37.50 a year. Until they get mainstream its going to most likely take over 10 years for that system to pay for itself if ever.
The problem with a lot of these questions is analogous to "Why don't you stop your car to pick up a penny when you drive by one." Its a tremendous amount of work for very little pay out. It doesn't make any sense to try an get the heat produced by your air conditioner to your pool heater when a very cheap solar heater will give you a much greater payout for much less.
Catholics are encouraged to read the Bible NOW. This was far from always true. To me, going to church is like letting someone watch your kids that was in the past a pedophile. Basically what you are saying is that we should all look at the Church today and not hold its past atrocities against it. Well I see plenty wrong with the modern Catholic Church so I guess it's past doesn't really matter to me.
Just because you don't see the point doesn't mean there isn't one. We have a few Ipads at the office and I can tell you they are great for meetings. We have our agenda's on google docs, so I can pull up the agenda and follow along, check my mail, send mail. I think tablets are what laptops were suppose to be. A portable computer. Sure its not as nice as my desktop but it gets the job done when I am not near mine. I honestly think laptops are a fad. I have a desktop at home and another at work. What I need is a smartphone with a bigger screen and better specs. I was just over at the in laws. Mother in law had a netbook, I had a netbook, sister and law had an ipad (yeah we don't talk much over there). I had to plug my netbook in when my battery died, and I was looking at the ipad with envy the whole time. If I had brought the family laptop I still would have been starring at the ipad with envy, its lighter, and the form factor is better for use in the recliner.
Sure if you want to be intentionally obtuse about it. The point of "Any time you need to ask the question.....then the answer is no" is to emphasize a very important concept. Most of us have a pretty good idea of what is ethical and what is not. Of course some people don't have this ability and some things may seem ethically wrong when upon closure inspection there is no problem. These are the exceptions to the rule. "As long as you don't question it, it's ethical" Again with the being obtuse. Clearly whether or not you question something has nothing to do with how ethical it is. We people come up with crap like this I imagine I am having a conversation with a genie. You wish for a million dollar's do you, I kill your parents. Don't ever want to work again, put you in a coma, want to be able to fly, turn you into a fly. Whenever you have a debate its incumbent on both parties to respect each other and accept their comments in good faith. Making sarcastic reductio ad absurdum statements can sometimes be a flash way to point out an error in logic but it can't be your golden hammer without losing you a lot of credibility in my book.
I was sitting very still with a mug of coffee at my side when it all happened. I first looked over my shoulder to see if a train was coming by. Then I panicked thinking there might be a T-Rex stalking me. Thankfully it was just Canada acting up again. 44.6,-73.4
Comments like this reveal just how little most people know about libertarians. Libertarians would say I am not buying a heart monitor for my kid because its not necessary. The school should not buy a heart monitor for my kid because thats not necessary and since I pay school taxes its the same as me buying the monitor. If the insurance companies want the data they can offer to pay me for the data and I may or may not have my kid wear the device. Also in a libertarian society people who do not want to give up there data to big business are the norm not the exception. If insurance companies wanted to discount insurance for giving that data thats fine and yes refusal would be fine too but you have to take your scenario to its logical conclusion. If there are a bunch of people being refused insurance then I am going to make a killing offering them insurance. Chances are they won't use it much because they are the paranoid type to begin with.
Don't you mean "if whoever was helping with the extracurricular activities knew more about everything than the child being taught. Sure its hard to be an expert at everything but its not hard for an above average person to be better than your average school teacher. I would be very confident that I could educate my child through middle school. Then for highschool a combination of traditional classes for a dose of "normal", and college courses for some real learning.
Like say....10 YEARS. Look at what we have learned to do in the last 10 years and then remember that we are learning exponentially so imagine 10 years from now having made 10 times the advancements we have made in the past 10 years. Its really not that far fetched. If you would have told me when I was 20 that when I turned 30 I would carry around a computer more powerful than my computer at 20 and it would have a 5 mega pixel camera and the ability to record video and have wireless internet, a GPS, and oh yeah make phone calls and all of that would cost less than half of what I paid for my computer. Well I probably would have said yeah that sounds about right.
Oh good point...no wait we could just hook the brain up to second life, or WOW. The assumption is that we just modeled a human brain and you really think that modeling an arm is going to be tricky?
How sure are you? Tell you what StripedCow, let me throw it back at you. Lets say your going to die in 24 hours, or......I can replace your brain by a small supercomputer. I guarantee that the observable you will not change. Will you do it then. Ok lets say you won't, are you sure no one would, what if 100 people have done it and they seam fine, still not onboard? What if spouse wants to do it to stave of death? What if its your child. I am sure you would never have your heart replaced by a dead guys either.
Yeah and if we can take another picture right after then we have two MRI pics and if we do this enough times and fast enough its a moving picture, lets call it a movie. So know we know what it looks like and we get to see it work. Thats pretty much all we have ever needed to make a copy of anything. Just because its biological doesn't make it magic.
The guy looking to buy a computer is not IT savy at all. The problem is that the customer has not told the IT Pro what he wants. He told the IT Pro what he thinks will solve his problem. Most people understand the concept I am talking about better when it comes to health care. You don't go to your doctor and say I want Lipitor. If you do, your doctor is not just going prescribe you your drug of choice. You tell your doctor your problem and what you want for an outcome. Then the doctor helps you decide. A client asking for a computer that lasts 15 years is equal wrong. The answer is always going to be, that's impossible, what are your concerns, what is the problem you are trying to solve. Now lets think of a solution that comes as close to that mark as possible. If your client wants a computer that will last 15 years and you give them a computer that could last 15 years you are not doing your job. If you have a computer that will last 15 years then your client can not afford it. I can easily give a client a computer that will last a long long time and be really easy to fix should something go wrong.
I have to strongly disagree with your entire argument. How are a bunch of usb flash drives laying around any different than a bunch of BluRay disks laying around? Put them in a nice case that sits on a shelf and people won't care. Many dvd players, BluRay players, HDTV's oh yeah and computers have USB ports these days. Joe Sixpack 5 years ago didn't have a laptop with wifi either but these days Joe does. Who is to say what Joe Sixpack will and will not know how to do in 5 years? Every thing is moving toward wireless. A wireless HD standard is on the table and one will be picked and standard in TV's in 5 years. Apple TV is out of range today. 5 years from now who is to say. An xbox 360 is getting lowered to 200 bucks. 200 dollars is the magic price point where Joe Sixpack can afford one. It has usb and an internet connection. Xbox 360 is releasing a netflix streaming option. With more and more people connected every year my guess is that in 5 years we will all stream our HD movies.
No. Trainers know that training at that level is very risky and so they put it off as long as possible. You would ramp up your training 6 months to a year out. Prior to that you would work on all of the parts of a routine but not actually do the routine. They dismount into pools of foam blocks and things like that.
Your sarcasm is not lost on me. Unfortunately it doesn't invalidate my point. By the same logic we shouldn't drug test ... and of course it is a well known fact that drug tests are infallible. I am not an athlete but my family trains and races horses. To succeed in horse racing you have to race horses that are way too young. Training a young animal, human or horse, to compete at the highest levels requires you to hold off pushing the animal to its limits as long as you can. The trick is to give the animal as much time to develop while still ramping up training soon enough to compete. If you pay no heed to the future health of the animal then you can start much sooner. The rule is designed to create a level playing field where trainers of gymnasts can reign in the intensity of training to decrease the risk of permanent damage to bones and normal development. I am not saying the system is perfect but that's not an excuse for China to get away with forging documents to allow a 14 year old to compete.
The gymnast must be 16 in the year of the Olympics so 15 going to be 16 this year is fine. The issue is a human rights one not a skill based one. A 14 year old has an advantage in that they have stronger muscles pound for pound and are not encumbered by such things as developing chest and hips. For me the big issue as stated prior is the toll being a gymnast takes on a 14 year old. In order for a 14 year old to have the skill to compete they must eat and breath the sport for many years prior and this can have long lasting negative effects on their health. Athletes under the age of 16 are considered children by most countries and getting a gold as a gymnast requires a person to consciously decide to risk their long term health for that gold something a child is not capable of doing. This is just another example of China casting aside human rights in order to further their agenda.
I think the point is that humans suck at perceiving time. If I say that I can model you as a human and predict your actions based on what I know about your brain, molecules, subatomic particles then something in most humans brains snaps and they say "OH no but if I don't choose my own destiny than what does it matter what I do and blah blah blah." I personally believe that our notion of free will is a result of our brains being locked in time. I really hate when people get to a point where their understanding of particle physics or the nature of time leads them to start thinking about free will. You just can not gain anything in my opinion asking whether or not our free will is true free will or not. We are bound by our perception of time and if that every changes then the destruction of free will will be the least of our concerns.
Your single premise is not being overlooked. The problem is that where by you may not see a 749 times the going rate for a product as being cruel you would be nearly alone in that view. Like you said the RIAA is not the government and they are entitled to sue for what they have lost. I and others here are arguing that they have not lost $749 dollars for a single song and that the punitive damages are cruel. The important point that I think you are overlooking is that the defendant in this case was a minor. Suing a minor for the amounts the RIAA does is very much cruel.
What are you talking about. First of all if you steal a stick of gum you are going to be let go with a stern warning. At most you will be asked to pay for the gum. Now if you actually were to get taken to court for your offense you would get virtually no punishment on your first offense and if it cost you over 1000 dollars in a defense attorney I would be surprised. Now the point being made is that if you were steal a whole pack of gum you are not going to get a separate punishment for each stick of gum and if you were to have stolen 10 packs of gum you will not get 10 times the punishment. 750 dollars per song is gruel and unusual by any definition. I would love to hear a good argument as to how a person downloading say 10 songs deserves 7500 dollars in damages. Lets keep in mind folks that this is in most cases the same music that is literally being broadcasts into every corner of the earth for our listening pleasure for free.
This is really not ok. Since when and I mean seriously people since when is storing the answer to a question in a database patentable. I mean think about all the things that you have missed out on patenting. What if I want to make a database of all my friends and store whether or not they would be receptive to viewing a particularly impressive quantity or shape of feces I have just produced. Should I patent that. Come on people they patented storing the answer to a specific question in a database. The only thing keeping me from a complete break down is that I did not RTFA.
Ok I rarely pull the nanny state argument but this is rediculious. Its one thing to ban people smoking in a confined space filled with non smokers and its another to get congress together to ban people talking on their phones cause its annoying. This is a giant waste of time. How much money do you think it will cost to debate this in congress. Think of how much time and effort goes into each line item of a bill. Fix a bridge or something.
CRAP...Solar powered cars will work just fine as soon as we slap a 1.5 square meter solar panal on the top of the car and another 4.5 square meter panel over the parking spot. Or a damn plug at parking spot. Or one at your house. Sure we aren't going to have a 100 solar powered car any time soon but who cares. An electric car that is charged by solar power made at my house or at my job is just as good.
You mean a tree? I mean that's basically what a tree is. Its a mass of hollow tendrils filled with wood that is created from the dead cells of itself. The tendrils reach up into the sky and down into the dirt. Never heard of one changing its genetic code on the fly and not sure about the whole growing a brain or genetic memory but then again we haven't necessarily cataloged all plant life either.