The $899 Educational iMac

Valthan writes "Macsimum news has just released news about a new version of the iMac that is being touted as an educational machine. It seems to be a nice setup, and has the cheapness that us university students strive on, I think they just may have a winner here to get people on the Mac. Now if only JCreator worked on it ..." From the article "Featuring a 17-inch widescreen LCD display, the iMac for education includes a Combo drive for burning CDs and reading DVDs, 512MB of 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM memory expandable up to 2GB and hard drive storage capacity up to 160GB. Every iMac also includes a built-in iSight video camera, built-in 10/100/1000 BASE-T Gigabit Ethernet for high-speed networking, built-in AirPort Extreme 802.11g WiFi for up to 54Mbps wireless networking, a total of five USB ports (three USB 2.0) and two FireWire 400 ports."

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Direct info from apple

[morcheeba]

Description on Apple's website
Technical specifications & available configurations

899 is cheap?

[JeanBaptiste]

Cheap for a uni student? I certainly didn't have that sort of money laying about when I was at university.

/got my computer for 50 bucks
//i didn't ask where it came from...

Re:899 is cheap?

[vought]

Cheap for a uni student? I certainly didn't have that sort of money laying about when I was at university.


At my school, we weren't a rich campus by any means, but an 8MHz Mac Classic and a raster laser printer for $1200.00 was a fucking STEAL when I started college in 1991. Even the Dells with Windows 3.1 were $1000.00 - and you didn't get a printer.

Times change...but the dollar barrier for entry into the "computer in my dorm room" club has remained nearly constant for fifteen years. If you want a computer that will last you through college, mow a lot of lawns between your high school graduation and your freshman orientation. For $1200.00, you can get any number of very nice Macs or PCs. For $1000.00, your choices get fewer, but there are still many nice machines. This new Mac is a lot of machine for $900.00.

Re:Cheap, but not cheap enough.

[Cadallin]

And the Pre-installed Spyware and Adware was FREE too!

I'd get one...

[$hecky]

But I've switched to Ubuntu.

Re:I'd get one...

[Blob Pet]

Don't hate on other Unix systems, it's bad karma, man.

Unless it's SCO UNIX.

Yes, but...

[tlacuache]

does it run a Lin... I mean, imagine a Beowulf clust... ah, crap, I choked.

From the Apple Store for Education

[Pinky3]

17-inch widescreen LCD
1440x900 resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo processor (1)
512MB memory (2x256MB SO-DIMMs)
80GB Serial ATA hard drive
24x Combo drive (DVD-ROM, CD-RW)
Intel GMA 950 graphics with 64MB of shared memory
($899)

The regular entry level iMac comes with
17-inch widescreen LCD
1440x900 resolution
1.83GHz Intel Core Duo processor (1)
512MB memory (single SO-DIMM)
160GB Serial ATA hard drive
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory
Bluetooth 2.0
Apple Remote
($1199)

You save $300, but give up Apple Remote, bluetooth, ATI Radeon, 80GB of drive space, and the SuperDrive.

Re:Cheap, but not cheap enough.

[geekoid]

is it silent? built in web cam? video editor? A nice UI?
And the dual core out performs the AMD 2.2.

A bit spoiled?

[aliens]

the cheapness that us university students strive on

$900 for a computer, for students, er yeah I guess some of them have that kind of cash. But I don't think they fit the stretched to the max, loans up the wazoo students that you'll encounter in today's universities. Those students still get by on the computer resources made available by the school.

In fact for $400 you could get a laptop from a couple of PC makers.

Saying that any price point is cheap and affordable only makes you look like an ass and makes other people feel bad. /Get off my lawn

Re:Ya but

[bcat24]

Wouldn't an SCO box be $666?

Re:Unfortunately

[b0s0z0ku]

(for most any CS major, it is essential to be able to develop for Windows -- other operating systems are a huge plus).

I graduated with an engineering degree in 2002, but took a few CS courses. All of the work was done on the CS lab UNIX boxes (Suns at the time, upgraded to commodity BSD machines right about the time I finished). Remember that CS is about teaching *concepts* rather than putting out functional code-monkeys - that's what "IT" programs are for.

-b.

Guinness or OS X?

[Anonymous Coward]

$899 = 1.83MHz Core Duo iMac with 17" screen and not enough RAM.

$899 = 12-pack bottled Guinness Draught x at least 50.

So, an iMac or 600 bottles of Guinness. College student unimpressed.

And don't anybody say "B-B-B-BUT THE GUINNESS DOESN'T COME WITH ILIFE" or I will rip your fucking head off and shove it up your ass.

Re:Unfortunately

[Guy Harris]

I can't verify that the software is actually better anymore. Could be the Intels make them crash as often as a regular PC

If that were true, then Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, and DragonFlyBSD would have to, when running on a regular PC, crash as much as Windows, too. If they don't, then perhaps PowerPC isn't as magical as you appear to think it is.

Re:Cash

[samkass]

Try checking out http://www.apple.com/financing/.

You can get what is essentially a Mastercard with no annual fee and an APR somewhere between 13.5% and 22.5% depending on your credit rating, with no interest for 90 days after purchase. If you've got good credit, this pretty much amounts to the same thing you got. If not, good luck finding financing anyway.

Re:Cheap, but not cheap enough.

[be-fan]

Are those P4's dual-core? Because if they're not, we're talking about two completely different classes of machine. Dual-Core Dells run $700+ on Dell's website. Also, the integrated form-factor is definitely a plus. As a recently-graduated undergrad, let me tell you that desk and floor space are at an absolute premium in any modern dorm.

Re:No cheap 20" model

[Firehed]

Considering that this is basically the $799 Mac Mini model built into a 17" widescreen LCD, I'm going to disagree with you on that one. It would have been nice, yes, but at least relatively speaking it's a great deal. You get a faster processor, same amount of memory and hard drive (both 2x256 by the looks of it). You only get a CDRW/DVD instead of a DVD burner, and lose the Bluetooth and remote (I'm assuming it still has a sensor, but I could be wrong), but gain the widescreen display and iSight camera. Not a bad trade imho, especially considering what's gained by spending the extra $300 for the standard 17" iMac w/ student discount: DVDRW, bluetooth, remote, x1600, 160GB HD - and aside from the hard drive space, I'd question the utility of the other stuff for most students. Heck, I've only used half the 60GB drive on my MBP, though I've also got a fileserver for the media. Apparently all of the iMacs include the Apple Keyboard and not-so-Mighty Mouse, which furthers the distance from a Mini.

Heck, I'd get one, and I've already got a monster display available for a Mini. In fact, I'd almost have to get a mini for that reason (no room for another display).