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Microsoft To Release 'iPod Killer' at Christmas?

ShellFish writes "According to a report from Engadget, Microsoft is poised to finally take on the Apple iPod this holiday season. Tired of uninspiring offerings from its hardware partners, Microsoft is getting into the ring itself. The new media player from Microsoft will feature a bigger screen than the iPod Video, have built-in WiFi for downloading music without a PC, and Microsoft will work with music and TV content providers to build an iTunes Music Store competitor. In what may be the crucial competitive stroke, Microsoft will also allow you to download from its store any song that you've purchased from Apple, unlocking users from iPod's vendor lock-in."

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  1. One jailer for another by Mister_IQ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    unlocking users from iPod's vendor lock-in

    ... and locking them right back in again in to Micrsoft's vendor lock-in. Brilliant.

    Next, I hope they'll let me "upgrade" all my paperbacks to MSReader encrypted format too!

  2. Re:Woah by davecrusoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Easy: they'll do the same thing they've done with the x-box (subsidize the music at their cost, to win market share)....

  3. If I had a dollar for every "iPod killer"... by ptomblin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...I'd have enough money to buy a newer iPod.

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  4. Apple and RIAA are laughing softly by snowwrestler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's no guarantee that Microsoft will be able to negotiate the same rates with the recording labels that Apple has. In fact from previous stories we know that the labels are aching to raise online prices and introduce differentiation, but were overpowered by Apple's market share. Microsoft will have a market share of 0% as they negotiate their deals--expect them to pay more per song than Apple for recent "hit" music. So the RIAA is laughing because not only are they going to get paid twice for one consumer purchase, but the second payment might actually be bigger than the first.

    Apple is laughing because Microsoft seems to have no profit foothold anywhere in the business plan. As new entrants their players will most likely have to compete on price, reducing the profit margin there. And by re-paying labels for music already purchases, they are in essence subsidizing their customers' libraries--a huge expense. Compare to Apple who commands a healthy profit on the players AND a small profit on every song sold. The only thing better than beating a competitor is making them lose a lot money and STILL get beaten.

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  5. Re:Not only that... by NiceGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since when is mp3 a lock-in format? (the bulk of what is on my Pod is ripped from my own collection). Nothing is stopping you from from doing that or buying from online vendors that sell albums in mp3 format. Don't be dense.

  6. Re:Not only that... by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    YOu may be right on points 1 and 3, but not 2. It will be using a proprieatary vendor lock in format called WMA, just as chock full of DRM as the ipod.

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  7. fools by Tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing on that list is what iPod owners care about, so this'll be another money bleeding mistake, not an "iPod killer" (besides, didn't we already have an iPod killer this week? I thought they're scheduled every two weeks).

    The iPod is a) simple, b) reliable, c) user-friendly, d) cool, e) well designed and f) ties in well with iTunes. That's what sells it, not bigger screens or WiFi. Nobody who owns an iPod wants to fiddle around for 5 minutes to get the WiFi to work.

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  8. Re:Not only that... by bcat24 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good point about the battery, but 1) AAC is not proprietary and 2) the iPod also plays MP3s, WAVs and AIFFs (IIRC).

  9. Re:Not only that... by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Meaning it will allow for easy replacement of the rechargeable battery


    Which will increase the size.

    not require proprietary vendor lock-in formats (ACC)


    AAC isn't a proprietary vendor lock-in format, it's the successor to MP3, as in MP4. It's amazing how many people think AAC is an Apple thing. They've obviously never even looked into the format. AAC is the standard audio format for next-gen movies (HD-DVD and Blu-Ray).

    and use generic cables/interfaces/devices to extend the use of the product? SIGN ME UP!


    Right, people have found no uses for the port at the bottom of the iPod.

    This is another money-sinking venture into locking you into WMA and getting you reliant on Windows tech. The device will be bulky (bigger screen? What, you think Apple won't be introducing new iPods this Christmas either? Probably those huge widescreen touchscreen iPods we've been hearing about for a year) and will only work with Windows and Window Media Player. Yuck.

    As for free downloads of iTunes purchases, does Microsoft think people use iPods because of the iTunes Music Store?
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  10. Re:Not only that... by Traiklin · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Have you ever owned one? I've owned four and between click wheels that fail, batteries that drop down to 30mins of play time, failed headphone jacks, firmware/softwar bugs etc. - I've never owned bigger pieces of electronic crap.
    so wait, you call the iPod a peice of crap yet you bought 4 of them? Why? after 2 most people would move on to something more reliable.
  11. Re:Closed codec's and DRM I'm sure by djrogers · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The last time I tried to change the user I ended up losing all my music and Itunes deleted everything. Apple was nice and let me redownload everything with a warning not to do it again
    Ok, so you screwed up and Apple fixed it for you...

    Anyway if I didn't have work/school I could research everything and fix it and be carefull to get my music back so I dont lose anything.
    You mean the arduous task of *copying* the protected AAC files to another computer and *gasp* typing in a username/password combo? Ack - I can see why you must take a sabbatical to research such a thing..

    Yes I know Itunes lets you share music on up to 5 computers but still I have to do it right incase I accidently delete the drm for the music.
    Errrm, I assume by this you think that the DRM is somehow fragile and will self destruct the songs if you somehow handl it wrong? Nope, not gonna happen. I have protected AAC files all over my network, all I have to do to use them on a new PC is press Play then enter my ITMS login credentials. Oh yeah - only once. For every song. ONCE. How is that fragile?
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  12. Re:Closed codec's and DRM I'm sure by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Microsoft offers more lenient DRM then I am all for it!

    Microsoft's DRM is not more lenient. It is much more strict than Fair Play. I predict you will not love it.

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  13. STOP! by Killshot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am so sick of reading news every 6 months about some new "iPod Killer" We can talk about who killed the ipod when it is dead. Until then... Stop pointing fingers.