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Work Around for New DVD Format Protections

An anonymous reader writes "For the new Blu-ray and HD-DVD formats, Hollywood implemented a complete copy protection scheme; almost everything has to be encrypted and authenticated. Despite the crypto-stuff in Advanced Access Content System and High Bandwidth Digital Content Protection, they left the backdoor wide open — they forgot about the PrintScreen button. Using this function you can create exact digital copies of a film picture-by-picture and reassemble them into a stream."

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  1. hrmm by paradigmdream · · Score: 5, Insightful

    thats quite a bit of work to copy a movie

    1. Re:hrmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you really want to copy a blue-ray movie, there are easier ways, such as decrypting HDCP.

    2. Re:hrmm by arivanov · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not if you script it.

      Alternatively you can "script" a sufficient number of those little slave hands instead of using them top make "Action Man" figures for Tesco.

      In either case, there are not that many frames in a movie. Even if you use "slaves" it will take less than 500£ to recover all frames in Lord of the Rings this way somewhere in the middle of nowhere in China.

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    3. Re:hrmm by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm surprised that they haven't disabled the print-screen functionality in some way so that it's not possible to do this.

      For example, in OS X, taking screenshots is disabled whenever DVD Player is running. It's not particularly hard to get around (actually, it's almost trivially easy; yet another situation where I feel like Apple did just the bare minimum required to look like they care) using the Terminal or a third-party applet that calls the screen grab, but the normal hotkey is disabled.

      I assume that if this method becomes a popular way of ripping movies, that the ability to take screenshots on Windows will simply be similarly crippled (probably more thoroughly), or removed altogether under certain situations. ('Printscreen doesn't function unless conditions x, y, and z exist...')

      That's not to say that I ever think it will be impossible for a sufficiently motivated person to rip a movie (or indeed, circumvent any level of DRM), but that a simple-but-useful historical feature like Print Screen could easily become a casualty of the DRM war.

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  2. Oh No! by JamesP · · Score: 5, Funny


    1 - Shift key - DMCA circumvention
    2 - Print Screen - DMCA circunvention

    Let's hope they don't take our entire keyboard to protect their stuff from the thieves...

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  3. Re:My finger is going to be sore by neonprimetime · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you spill soda in the exact spot right under the Print Screen button, it becomes much easier.

  4. Real pirates DUPLICATE by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To make "other" copies is too troublesome. As always, real pirates will use the means they always have. They will work "off hours" at DVD publishing sites making uncounted copies indistinguishable from the counted copies. They will have the production equipment in their homes to make exact duplicates.

    This is not about stopping piracy because these measures to nothing to address the two primary methods. What it does thrwart is casual consumer copying to better ensure that the consumers will buy multiple copies of the same stuff.

    What I am saying is not new and has been repeated since the creation of the first DVD format.

  5. Those Idiots by frogstar_robot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now was not the time to splatter this information all over the world. If they had waited for wider deployment, this hole could have been kept wedged open as closing it on hundreds of thousands of clients wouldn't have been terribly practical.

    Remember would be DVD-Jons, if you find DRM holes in new media tech SHUT YOUR YAP UNTIL EVERYBODY AND HIS DOG HAS BOUGHT SOME. THEN RELEASE THE INFO. When you do release the information, do so complete with "mom friendly" utilities and use warez "spreaders" to be sure everybody and his dog can start using it right away. This also complicates shutting the hole in various social and technical ways.

  6. Yeah right by Britz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So the new copy protection sheme is supposed to keep professinal pirates (the guys that copy the movie and then sell th ecopies in large quantities) from gaining a copy? Gimme a break!

    And it is supposed to be a hurdle to those "release groups" (the guys that compete with each other to be the fastest to release a movie to the p2p networks)? Yeah, right!

    This hole (and there will be others) is another prove that there is no protection against those two groups. They will simply find another way.

    But it puts a major obstacle in the way of paying customers that just want to watch movies. The movie studios don't realize it because there is no pressure from an alternative. That is also called a monopoly. And who is going to break it up? The movie industry and the record industry both seem to need a little "help" to get some competition back into their respective markets.

  7. And just to make things easier... by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You can automate the whole process using the two software below:
    1. AutoIT to create a script.
    2. IrfanView to grab the entire screen and/or apply optional transforms to the captured image. This is optional, since AutoIT can probably send the "PrintScreen" command itself, and move the resulting file(s) into a capture directory.


    Just set your DVD software to play frame-by-frame. The rest is taken care of by the automated script. Sure, it may take a couple of attempts, but once you have the formula down, ripping an entire DVD movie should not take more than 4x or 5x the normal duration of the movie. Just let your computer run all night and you can have a brand new DiVX in the morning.

    Now, what I'd like to know is: how do you rip the soundtrack off those uber-protected DVD? Hook the DVD player to an MP3 recorder? Or do you use one of the software that pretends to be a valid sound card?
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  8. *GASP* - Another hole found! by GogglesPisano · · Score: 5, Funny

    Check this out:

    Using my 733t hax0r sk1llz, I can use my EYES to COPY the movie to my BRAIN, where I can remember it OVER and OVER again -- for FREE!

    Eat THAT, MPAA!

  9. Does HDCP solve this? by MasterC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP) "protects" DVI & HDMI interfaces but for this to work on a regular PC then the OS has to be in on the deal as well, right? So if a drive and video card support the devil that is HDCP, does this "back door" work if the OS is in on the HDCP? I would venture a "no" on that one.

    Taking print screens is a weak solution, but a solution nonetheless. All it takes is one person to have the patience or scripting skills to automate this for a copy to hit the internet. One. That's the problem with DRM in that it may deter most people but to be totally effective it requires determent of everyone. Feeding millions of individual frames to an encoder is not beyond some people, I'm sure. Especially since hollywood raised the stakes.

    If this is a back door, then it's one of those miniature clown doors. When someone figures out a way to completely strip out AACS (like what was done with CSS) then we can call AACS hacked and laugh again at the never-winable battle that is DRM.

    DRM is unwinable because you have to give the decryption key to the user so that they can use the product. If you don't give them the key then they can't use it. So DRM gives the encrypted data and the decryption key to the user every time.

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  10. Re:Get right. by Ours · · Score: 5, Funny

    Splitting hairs, maybe, but Hollywood would have trouble implementing a flush toilet.

    What a shame, with all the crap they come up these days they would sure have good use for it.

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  11. Not so much, really by Weaselmancer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It would be a lot of work, if you did it manually. The print screen button is really just a proof of concept idea. Remember that the device is a computer and they excell at repetition.

    For example, it wouldn't be too hard to write a DirectX driver for a virtual display device that simply passes every frame it sees into a filter for recording. Same should work for audio, really. Just take the inbound stream and stash it somehwere. As long as you've got the bandwidth inside the machine to move the data and the space to store it, why not?

    This is why MS is pushing so hard for that "driver verification" thing. User created drivers can bypass the DRM just before the media gets pushed out to the hardware. The Windows box simply isn't built for DRM level trust at all points in a broadcast. Yet, anyways. It's still possible to break the chain somewhere and extract content. I'm guessing that'll always be the case too, at least for a good long while. Only way to get around that with what we have today would be if MS started selling PCs that are welded shut.

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  12. Re:Not really a backdoor by ratboy666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This *is* a backdoor. The digital data is in the frame buffer, but cannot be extracted (programs that are not trusted cannot be run). The Print Screen function is trusted, and so can run even with end-to-end crypto. The Print Screen function has access to the entire frame buffer. I don't know of another way to do this -- this one is actually brilliant.

    And, Print Screen can be scripted. The player can ALSO be "scripted". As in, pause, and single step ("consumer" features). As to the speed of such a utility -- I would estimate that the re-encode process for a typical movie would take around 400 minutes (on a "typical" high end PC, see next paragraph for the amount of data involved). Ripping the audio track is more difficult (especially in full 5.1+ glory), but the technology for that is known. Time for that is real-time. Pulling a figure out of my ass, I would think a usable rip would take 800 minutes.

    It's not "2 trillion" screen captures. It is a lot of data, though. At maximum resolution (1920x1080p) its 2 million pixels per frame. At 24bpp, that's 672 GB per hour (108,000 frames). The data HAS to be jammed through an encoder right away. This, of course, introduces new artifacts (its not going to be a "perfect" first generation copy). But its still going to be better than DVD quality.

    I believe that the keys for this software will be revoked, and the current users (if any) "upgraded".

    The point that this attack makes is that "DRM" is actually rather laughable. Your audience needs the decrypt keys, and yet can't be trusted with the decrypt keys... It just isn't stable.

    Ratboy.

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  13. Lazy hackers by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wait, HD DVD and BluRay aren't cracked yet? They've been out for weeks... Come on, you lazy hackers!