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Wind Powered Freighters Return

thatoneguyfromphoeni writes "It appears that sails could return to the ocean's freighters soon. Newsweek is reporting on a technology to assist with cross-ocean travel. From the article: 'SkySails' system consists of an enormous towing kite and navigation software that can map the best route between two points for maximum wind efficiency. In development for more than four years, the system costs from roughly $380,000 to $3.2 million, depending on the size of the ship it's pulling. SkySails claims it will save one third of fuel costs.'"

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  1. Welcome to the 80's by Warshadow · · Score: 4, Informative

    During the oil crisis in the early 80's they worked on this. I'm fairly sure one company did add sails to a ship or two and did see a reduction in fuel consumption.

    Also Popular Mechanics ran an article on this like 4 months ago. In fact it was on the cover of that issue.

    1. Re:Welcome to the 80's by Danga · · Score: 4, Informative

      Also Popular Mechanics ran an article on this like 4 months ago. In fact it was on the cover of that issue.

      I was trying to remember where I somewhat recently read about this technology and thank you for reminding me that it was in Popular Mechanics.

      I can't find a link to the Popular Mechanics article (I think it was in the february 2006 issue) but you can read more about this technology here http://alt-e.blogspot.com/2005/02/hybrids-hybrid-b oats-hybrid-ships-and.html and the following link has some more information as well as some interesting pictures/diagrams http://www.primidi.com/2005/03/07.html .

      It is pretty amazing how much more efficient the sails can make a ship, from the last link I mentioned:

      "cargo vessels can increase their speed by a minimum of 10% -- in the example given speed is increased yet by 2.25 bends, equaling 15%. Alternatively by using the SkySails propulsion fuel savings of up to 50% can be implemented."

      It showed that using 1200 litres of fuel per hour a normal ship would cruise at ~15.5 knots and a skysail enhanced ship would cruise at close to 18 knots, not too bad of a speed gain. If the skysail ship wanted to cruise at 15.5 knots instead then fuel consumption would drop from 1200 litres per hour to around 550. That is just awesome and I really hope this goes into wide use where it is feasable to use it.

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  2. Actually already in use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, this is not just a weird idea, but this is already in use by Beluga, an ocean carrier from Bremen/Germany.

    (Funny that the image whose words I have to type in right now says 'seaport' (-: )

  3. What was old is new again by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, this is the best I could find. I'm just not that good with this Google thing. I was looking for a picture, but FTL:
    Rising fuel prices during the 1970s prompted the development of a new technology that used sails shaped like aircraft wings turned on end to take some of the burden off the engines and save fuel. Slightly curved to form a wing shape, these sails were attached to a mast that could pivot and locate the best angle for the sail to catch the wind. Once the computers set the mast at the best angle to the wind, the sail created the same "lifting" force that an airplane's wing generates, except that the force pushed the ship along the water. However, this system did not always prove to be efficient for extremely large vessels. I thought what I saw was that the mast itself was a rigid aerodynamic sail.

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  4. I'm skeptical by Jeff+Molby · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here is a video from their site. This is obviously a prototype, so they have a LOT of scaling to do. Plus, the only time you see the boat (yes, I said boat, not ship) moving with any significant speed, you can't see the rear, so it's safe to assume that its engine is assisting.

  5. Re:How big? by Cromac · · Score: 4, Informative
    At this site http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/ the most powerful ship diesel running at its most efficient speed burns 1,660 gallons of heavy fuel oil per hour. Even using the cheap, nasty fuel these ships burn that's a big expense.

    According to http://www.skysails.info/index.php?id=66&L=1

    Increasing efficiency using ship diesel has almost reached its maximum potential and is also extremely expensive. According to the calculation of an expert on ship propulsions, shipping companies would have to invest up to 500,000 Euros in order to reduce a ship's fuel consumption by 1%. Fuel savings of 5% would be a fantastic performance for ship owners, according to Niels Stolberg, managing partner of Bremen-based shipping company Beluga Shipping GmbH.
    To get an increase of 35% (the max claimed by SkySails) would mean a 3.5 million euro investment, that's a lot of crewman salaries even at union wages and less than the Skysails implementation would cost.

    They have some interesting performance calculations on their website too about how much sail produces how much energy. http://www.skysails.info/index.php?id=89&L=1

  6. Re:I wonder about the article photo by MathFox · · Score: 4, Informative

    It takes some time to get a supertanker turning... but once they turn it takes significant time to stop the rotation. Rotational inertia can work against you.
    Having the pulling force closer to the center of the ship will decrease the needed rudder force for correction; using the rudder creates friction, so that's best avoided. Another advantage of having the ropes mid-deck makes it possible to lower the kite on deck, much more convenient than fishing it out of the waves after use.

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  7. Re:I wonder about the article photo by nacnud75 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The parasail behaves very differently to a normal triangular sail or even a jenica. You move the parasail constantly through the air in a figure of eight to generate power. Also these ships are likely to follow the trade winds where the wind normally comes from the stern, therefore attaching the sail to the bow won't be a problem as most of the time the ship would be traveling on a broad reach or run.

  8. Re:Another factor to consider by mederjo · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sailboats tend to need keels if they plan on sailing in any direction other than directly downwind.

    Assuming that there needs to be something extra for directional stability, there are also :

    • centreboards - which drop or hinge from inside the boat which can be retracted
    • lee boards - which hinge from the side of the boat, one on each side. The one on the downwind side is usually lowered, hence the name. The most common example I can think of for these that you might know ( from paintings and such ) is Dutch sailing barges.
    • bilge keels - short ( heightwise ) keels which run along the bottom of the boat away from the centreline ( along the bilges ), often oriented on a bit of outward angle vertically.
    • water ballast - internal tanks which hold water to balance the boat. This is usually more to help with resisting the heeling/tipping force of the sails, but can be also be used to aid directional stability through good balancing.
    All of these methods generally do not add any significant permanent draught to the boat. Many of these already have a strong tradition in freight vessels, for example sailing barges which also needed to be able to move through canals, but of course not on the scope of today's freighters. Although it would cost ( or just be impractical ) to adapt these sorts of things to existing vessels, you can imagine a future when wind assisted freighters might have these designed in from the start. There would not really be too much need for extra dredging etc. The wind provides free energy ( barring the cost of the equipment needed to harness that free energy ) and engines can still be used to offset the problems sailing ships had with adverse conditions. I think we'd really have to be on the last two litres of oil before that sort of thing was seriously looked at though, there have been a number of wind assisted schemes over the years which haven't caught on ( not counting actual sailing ships of course ).

    Regards,

    Jo Meder
    Boatbuilder and yacht design student turned software developer...

  9. Re:Tugboat attachment points by alshithead · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most newer freighters and tankers can pretty much dock themselves. The have bow and stern thrusters that make them very maneuverable at low speed. These days tugs are more of a backup system for docking ships. They'll tie on and sit at the ready but the pilot on the ship is doing the docking using the bow and stern thrusters.

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