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Short Film About CERN's Large Hadron Collider

Lobster911 writes "Seedmagazine.com has posted a new film, Lords of the Ring, about CERN's Large Hadron Collider. NESTA fellow Alom Shaha takes us through the world's largest machine, as he lets the scientists who work at CERN explain the LHC and what they hope to accomplish with it. The highly-anticipated collider is set to start up in 2007, running at full speed by 2008."

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  1. Basic research is often hard to justify by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One of the things common with very basic research is that it's hard to justify what benefits will come out of it. The first folks playing with radioactive materials all died of cancer, little knowing their sacrifice would completely change geopolitics for decades to come.

    The collider will give us a better view of basic particle interactions. Will it give us anti-gravity or make our teeth whiter? Probably not, but unexpected things will likely come of it.

  2. Re:OK, jokes are fine, but . . . by Chrispy1000000+the+2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the LHC produces black holes, then we know that black holes are produced when cosmic rays hit the higher reaches of the atmosphere. Same sort of energy levels, just more controlable and repeatable down here. So, by theory of 'we're not gone yet' it figures that we will be pretty safe.

    You'd need a nano-blackhole with the mass of everest or so for it not to decay in seconds, iirc. 2 protons don't cut it buddy.

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    Sig
  3. switzerland sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Don't ever apply for a job at Bomber Command....

  4. Re:A comment prediction, if I may. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Of those 80%, which ones believe in the correct god? What if there are multiple jealous gods and belief in the wrong one will yield a harsher punishment in the afterlife?

    And trying to say that belief in god carries no negative consequences is flat out decietful. Religious zealotry brings about or at least gives political strength such atrocities as The Inquisition, caste systems, suicide bombers, holy wars, witch trials, ostracism and a whole host of other negative symptoms of irrational thought. Yes, it is possible for religion to support caring for the sick and downtrodden, feeding the poor, liberating the unjustly oppressed... but technology and free thought have done far more for those causes than religion ever has. The biggest common denominator I have seen with religions is they become a tool corrupted toward the will of the powerful in an attempt to further subjugate others, no matter how benevolent the underlying philosophy is.

    And of the negative societal ills you moaned and whined about, the majority are exhibited by a largely religious fiscally impoverished class.

    So, to flane back at you with the same sort of generalizations you used: go rot in hell (seeing as how you believe in it) you war-mongering hateful death penalty supporter. And when you follow the "Christian Right" believing that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment be sure to ignore the fact that your lord and savior suffered from the death penalty. WWJD indeed.

  5. Re:A comment prediction, if I may. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you believe in God, and God doesn't exist, then you've lost what?

    Your dignity, and the sense of self required to make the most of the brief life our species enjoys.

    A little time hanging out with nice people who have high morals?

    I don't think "morals" means what you think it means. Your "morals" are simply your "values." Some people's value systems include the wonderfulness of molesting children, or seriously embracing the sacrificing of chickens to persuade your dead ancestors to alter the weather for your wedding reception. "High" morals doesn't mean anything. You have to identify which morals, and speak to the underlying system of thought - or in the case of religion, childish fantasy - upon which the world view in question, and thus the system of values (morals) that a person develops (or simply takes out of a story book).

    people who believe in a hard days' work, who are willing to feed themselves and raise their children with a good education and proper values

    The people I know that most fit this description are the least religious. Conversely, the more religious ones tend to keep talking in terms of their food being provided by the mystical personality they pray to before dinner, and indicate that when the going gets tough, it's not hard work or personal accountability, but Jesus(tm) that's actually responsible for everything that happens. What a cheap cop-out.

    laying on the couch living off government welfare, eating cheesy poofs bought with government food stamps

    Well, at least we can see that you don't belong to one of those charitable churches that does things like collect canned food for people, or shelter lazy homeless women who are running from their abusive husbands, etc. I mean, taking that sort of handout is a sure sign of moral weakness, so any church that would dole out such support is surely a major player in Satan's campaign to make people morally weak. No doubt.

    Good luck in hell

    Heh! Joke's on you. There isn't one, other than that which you make for yourself while you (meaning, your functioning brain, which pretty much requires you to be alive in order to do things like fire the synapses that allow you to actually be yourself) are actually alive. And since you're so scared of actually living your real life, in the face of a sure eventual death, you're focused on an imaginary afterlife that doesn't exist... and I'd call all of that wasted time and fretting to be a current, living hell that you personally occupy. And when you die, it will end - but you'll never get back the time you spent obsessing over such absurdities as original sin and whether you've properly entertained, through treacly hymns and magic hand-waving, a cruel and capricious god that allows priests to bugger altar boys and beautiful, innocent children to burn alive in crashed church vans or whither away from blood cancer no matter how much everyone prays they won't. Hell's right here, bub, if that's all you can think about... but those of us who don't attach a personality to the laws of physics get to produce our own meaning in life, and live our actual lives undistracted by fairy tales we should have grown out of when we were five years old.

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    Don't disappoint your bird dog. Go to the range.
  6. Wow. by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If this is a troll, masterfully executed and I salute you.

    If not, then you have some fairly bizarre notions. I think it is not, so allow me to make some comments.

    You knock “religious fundamentalists.”

    Certainly the desired intent.

    What happens if 80% of the world is right, and that God does exist? Are you prepared to roast in hell?

    Alright, 80% of the world population is theistic. Seems right. But in addition to many divisions of belief, what has been believed has changed for all recorded human history. Religion that has fallen out of fashion is regarded today as silly nonsense. We do not revile people because they reject Zeus or do not call pharaoh a god. We have evolved improved sensibilities about the natural world and society. It may take a thousand years, but we will one day laugh at all the religions of today the same way we now laugh at river gods and fire spirits.

    If you believe in God, and God doesn't exist, then you've lost what?

    Perhaps a lifetime. Instead of engaging myself with the task of improving the human race, I have wasted it chasing after an invisible man in the sky. One might as well spend a life believing in Santa Clause or the Tooth Fairy.

    A little time hanging out with nice people who have high morals?

    I am an atheist and I too have morals. I know I should not commit violence against people because I would not want others to commit violence against me. I know I should not steal or cheat for the same reason. It is purely logical for me to follow certain principles and adhere to morals, without some supernatural entity threatening me with punishment. It is logical because I have a survival instinct which makes me avoid injury. Also, human beings are social creatures since society increases our chances of survival. Harming others harms the group, thus diminishing our prosperity. In my opinion, these are much better reasons to live morally than threats of eternal fire and brimstone. Morals do not come from religion and they never have. Furthermore, not all religious people have “high morals,” such as those whom use their religion to write moral blank checks which they cash to commit acts of rape and cold-blooded murder.

    Or you could go back to whining and complaining about the world

    But do you not see that critism is the only way to progress! I “complain” because I care. I see faults and I want to understand those faults such that they can be corrected. That is akin to the scientific method which seeks to disprove claims so that only those which are true become establish facts. And then they are questioned again and again. Critism is the crucible of knowledge and it is an ever-tempering force. If we resort to patting each other on the back, proclaiming to one another of how righteous and great we are, we will go nowhere.

    [L]aying on the couch living off government welfare, eating cheesy poofs bought with government food stamps, drinking malt liquor and fortified wine, having abortions, and beating your 4th wife's stepchildren until they can't function in society, and then whine about the poor state of our education system, and then whine about the lack of taxes paid by the rich people.

    Whew. Where to begin. Thank you for your concern, but I am well-employed. I prefer natural food to cheesy poofs, but I must admit I enjoy a fine glass of wine and even, dare I mention, a nice dry, gin martini from time to time. Such are lifes little pleasures. I personally have had no abortions given that I am a male, ho

  7. Re:Who killed the supercollider? by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Clinton Administration, not known for its religious fundementalism, killed the Supercollider to divert funds to social programs.

    Taking your claim at face value, I would respond by stating that he was or they were fools for doing so. Instead, they ought to have revoked tax exempt status for religious organizations (which contribute nothing to human progress and have not done so for thousands of years) and used that revenue to fund science.

    Thank you for pointing this out so we can remind ourselves that partisan politics are silly and politicians are deeply fallible. And for that very reason, each and every person ought to be concerned about the doings of their government so that they become educated about and engaged in its proper function.

  8. Re:OK, jokes are fine, but . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You arn't paying attention to the post you are answering too. You see it is explicity said that we already have such collisons on our own atmosphere every day due to collosal space explosions that then pelt us with particles much much later. These impacts have never destroyed Earth before, so it seems unreasonable to assume the LHC which are lower in energy range I believe will do anything that can destroy us.

  9. Re:Low content by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The video was a little low on content (I guess it was aimed at a more general audience).

    The whole website is like that - it's kind of a Parade magazine for the 'hip' crowd. Nothing in depth, little that's controversial - a little science, a little nonsense, a little news, a little opinion. At the end, despite the minsicule effort involved to read it, you feel like you've accomplished something.