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Congress Passes Energy Efficient Server Initiative

Krishna Dagli writes to mention a News.com article about a just-passed Congressional initiative. On Wednesday the House passed legislation instructing Americans to make energy efficiency a priority when purchasing computer servers. From the article: "Washington politicians voted 417-4 on Wednesday to tell American purchasing managers that it's in their 'best interests' to pay attention to energy conservation. The bill, sponsored by Rep. Mike Rogers, a Michigan Republican, also directs the Environmental Protection Agency to conduct a three-month study 'of the growth trends associated with data centers and the utilization of servers in the federal government and private sector.'" Well, at least if they're doing this they're not passing 'real' laws, right?

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  1. Virtualization==Efficiency by quokkapox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A saavy hosting company can virtualize multiple machines into one physical box. The companies who can do this well enough so that their customers cannot tell the difference will operate more efficiently. Power isn't going to get cheaper, until we figure out how to stop burning what's left of our fossil fuels.

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  2. Energy saving on products by anteyekon4myst · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So they want to pass this for servers....but they wont force automakers to do this?

  3. This goes for home too. by ShyGuy91284 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know how much it costs to keep a computer running 24/7? If you look into it, you'll see it's usually at least a couple hundred dollars a year (if not more depending on energy cost, peripherals, and stuff like that.) Yeah, you have a huge server case, and penis envy might make you want to pop in a huge 600W power supply with a huge power-hungry CPU, and lots of high end and extra stuff that you don't actually need. I recall harddrives, as the main part of most home servers, do not take too much power (a couple dozen Watts i think). I used to leave my desktop on all the time and let it act as my file server, but am now using an older computer with a 250W power supply and a minimialist configuration, and let my desktop suspend to ram most of the time. Yeah, some may need that 600W for a home server if it's acting as a mythtv server/web server/media reencoding server, but most probably do not.

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  4. Just two questions... by StressGuy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1) How long and how many man hours did it take congress to come to the conclusion that it's a good idea to buy energy efficient servers?

    2) Why are there four dissenting votes? More to the point, what's tacked onto this that would make a congressmen go on record as appearing to vote against energy efficiency.

    There's more to this story here...

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  5. Re:What about cars?!? by kabocox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe someone should try telling Americans the same thing about cars. To paraphrase the legislation "give high priority to energy efficiency as a factor in determining best value and performance for purchases of cars."

    This was my first thought when reading this summary. Then I thought. It's really pointless all together because those buy computer rooms worth of computer already look at energy efficiency! O.k. the way that they do it generally is how much A/C is required and what is the cost in electrity to run them all. The more efficient a computer the less A/C and power than you need.

    Reading your post, I thought of why not a 1% power reduction across the board on all products per year until industries run into actual real hard limits for reducing power consumation. 1% doesn't sound like much, but over time it would add up, plus it would be a good mindset to get our engineers into thinking about.

  6. AMD ad campaign by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have to admit that I find the timing of this kind of odd. I live in DC, and in the past two months or so there has been a large marketing campaign by AMD touting the energy efficiency of their servers. In nearly every Metro station and in many bus kiosks around town, there are ads talking about how you could've cooled all of Georgetown with the energy saved by using AMD servers, or how the energy saved could've chilled X number of iced cappucinoes or whatever. Not that I expect Congresscritters to see these things while riding public transportation, but still...Interesting timing...

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  7. Nice thought, but... by WindBourne · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It would be better to implement what Colorado Congresman Joel Hefley pushed; have the feds (and states for state level) provide election funding for those that make a certain level of support from the voters. This has several nice advantages.
    1. It basically removes the corporate lobbyists. If they give money, than it is a bribe.
    2. This will allow for other parties to compete. Right now, it is next to impossible for libertarians, constitionalists, and green party to get a toehold as it is grassroot efforts only. But if this goes through, then a good candidate has an equal chance.

    But getting congress to go along is very difficult. Even in light of all the corruption (Bush, Libbey, Cheney, Amberson , Frist, Delay, Jefferson, etc, etc,), it could not get passed. Sad.

    I think that this will have to be a grassroot effort.
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  8. Re:And? by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "It might save the government money and we have to pay for iraq somehow."

    Actually, it seems fuel efficiency hurts the govt. coffers. Less fuel produced and consumed...less taxes collected on it.

    We've already seen this happening in the western states like CA, and Oregon. Lots of people using less gasoline...and now the states are trying to come up with imaginative new ways to collect lost tax revenue to keep the roads up...like the trials of cars that had computers and GPS systems that tracked the miles you traveled in the state (and God knows what other information, like if you were speeding any)...and would report this to the state at the gas station or maybe annual tag renewals..and you got charge on that data.

    If you wanted to see a sharp drop in gas prices...get the fed and state taxes lifted for a day..and see what the price would really be.

    No...the govt gets a LOT of revenue on fuel production and consumption.

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  9. Re:I'm all for being an earth concious consumer... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Actually, the tech is quite right. There's a reason RAID-0 is considered an extremely bad idea... your overall failure rate goes up because you are now relying on 0 failures amongst n drives instead of just 1.
    Well yeah, it's the old case of "twin engine planes have twice as many engine problems as single engine". The relevant question does indeed become "can your plane fly with one less engine?" In the specific case I was referring to, they had two load balanced web servers, an email server, a database server, and a file server (also keeping backups for email web and database). They did indeed need to do some serious hardware upgrading and consolidation. The point I was trying to make was with regard to the in-house guy's assertion that, if you replace your server hardware before it reaches the specified MTBF, you can guarantee never having a hardware problem. I forgot to mention the truly choice quote from him (in response to my questioning folding in the backup server) that really punctuates it:
    "We won't need to make backups because we'll be continuously replacing the server before it fails".
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