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Microsoft COO Warns Google Away From Corp Search
Forbes is reporting on comments made by Microsoft COO Kevin Turner, concerning the corporate search business. At a company conference in Boston, Turner referred to the enterprise search business as 'our house', and warned Google to stay out. From the article: "Those people are not going to be allowed to take food off our plate, because that is what they are intending to do ... Enterprise search is our business, it's our house and Google is not going to take that business"
everyone at microsoft has lost far too much hair over google..
google products and servers really only even compete with a few microsoft ones, why don't they stop focusing on a competitor that they have essentially imagined and start focusing on making vista worth upgrading to
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Companies, like countries, tend to talk the toughest when they're in trouble. Seeing their domains as God-given rights instead of something they had to work for, making threats they can't back up, getting into fights with much smaller competitors that it seems like they should be able to win easily but somehow can't ... Yep.
If I were a Microsoft stockholder or employee, I'd be very worried right now.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Too bad, its been around for a while too:
http://www.google.com/enterprise/
I don't get it.
What's newsworthy about this is not the competition between Microsoft and Google, but what Turner's comments reveal about Microsoft's attitude. The arrogance and lack of understanding of the competition that those few sentences encapsulate are breathtaking.
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Enterprise search is our business, it's our house and Google is not going to take that business
Google dominates over MSN in consumer search. Does this guy honestly think they won't dominate Microsoft in Enterprise search? Why not back up his statement with a good reason why Google won't take MS to the woodshed on this one?
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after all, if they have the better product then why should they be worried about Google ?
here's what i don't get. do they (microsoft) teach their executives that the business is personal? i mean, sheesh... never before have a bunch of executives looked more like a bunch of cry-baby drama queens (and i'm no google fanboy).
a note to microsoft executives: no, google is not trying to take food off *your* plate. they are competing with you. if you can't take it, then quit and go away. the cry-baby routine is quite boring and not terribly becoming for an executive of a major international corporation.
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Hmm,
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Seems like the COO of an industry leading company should be more stalwart in his analysis of a market if indeed his company is the market leader. You're so much better off barely acknowledging the competition. You really shouldnt' even mention their name unless completely necessary. If he displays anything other than the facade of market leadership then it would seem to me that he's really not so sure of his market position.
Good luck to him and his company who's shares will probably be dropping in value once again.
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..."food", isn't it?
And if a whole enterprise is a piece of "food" for MS, where does that leave an individual?
Got time? Spend some of it coding or testing
Does Microsoft even have a shipping product that does this?
I will freely admit that I may just not be informed in this area - but I didn't know Microsoft even did enterprise-level search stuff. I can't recall ever seeing articles in the trade press about it either.
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"Those people are not going to be allowed to take food off our plate"
Dear god! Hide your dinner plates, or google will take to stealing the food from your childrens figurtive mouths...
This article missed his less publicized quote "Google is trying to rape our women, and eat our children, FREEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!"
You take it, I don't want it...
So many people are forgetting the lessons of history.
Once I used to think that MS Word would never overtake WordPerfect; that WordPerfect had too big a lead
Once I used to think that IE would never overtake Netscape; that Netscape had too much mindshare
Once I used to think that WinCE would never overtake Palm; that Palm was the perennial favorite
I've since wisened up, and will never underestimate Microsoft again.
The historical scoreboard of Microsoft versus competitors, for those to young to remember:
Looking at the current market share battles:
People will often joke about MS "Bob" - myself included. But Bob is one of very few actual Microsoft market failures. Virtually every other MS product either already dominates its field, or is projected to do so.
I'm not a Microsoft shill; far from it. I'm proud to count myself among those with the deepest disdain for the company. Currently, I am an enthusiastic Linux, KDE, OpenOffice.org, and Firefox afficianado. Before that, it was always "anything but Microsoft." As much as I'd like this to be the beginning of the end for MS, I cannot kid myself.
Look at the facts:
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While I agree about Microsoft's arrogance in general, in this case it's just locker room talk:
"We be bad. Yeah!"
Pumpin' up the team. You'll hear its like at every stupid sales meeting at every stupid company in the world. Some of 'em even sing stupid fight songs. It's non news about a non event.
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And I'm sure the *NIX and VMS marketplace remembers saying that Microsoft can have the desktop but _WE_ own the server room.
No one could beat IBM.
It's funny how people like to sit behind their computers and criticize the business tactics of the most powerful corporation on the planet. I am not implying that I agree with their methods, but to assume a "lack of understanding" from a company that generates more than $40 billion (billion with a "b") in annual sales, and whose executives are among the richest men and women in the world...that shows a lack of understanding. Arrogant...sure, ignorant, FAR from it. You can afford some arrogance when you can buy and sell half the world's countries with your annual sales.
... as much as the next person, but I think it's unfair from reading TFA to call arrogant on them.
These quotes come from a company conference - and this guy is just giving a 'rallying the troops' type speech. He's not telling Google to keep out of Enterprise searches, he's telling his own staff that they are going to (try to) keep Google out of that market (good luck!). There's a big difference.
You can be sure that at a Google company conference, Turner's counterpart is telling their staff that Enterprise searches are their right and they are going to take them from MS.
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I would imagine that any such system would be built upon the Indexing Service, which is a very useful tool.
Did you mean to refer to the absolutely horrible, performance-crippling service that EVERY Windows user should disable as the first thing they do on a new install (actually on SP2 boxen they have it turned off by default, thank Zeus)?
If so - Performance aside, that doesn't really count as "enterprise" level search. Desktop search amounts to nothing more than an index of local files; Enterprise search means coordinating that info across numerous machines and, frequently, several different physical sites connected by pipes of unknown (a priori) speed and reliability.
It's funny how people like to sit behind their computers and criticize the business tactics of the most powerful corporation on the planet. I am not implying that I agree with their methods, but to assume a "lack of understanding" from a company that generates more than $40 billion (billion with a "b") in annual sales, and whose executives are among the richest men and women in the world...that shows a lack of understanding. Arrogant...sure, ignorant, FAR from it. You can afford some arrogance when you can buy and sell half the world's countries with your annual sales.
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Oh, really?
If anything, Microsoft's arrogance will contribute to their downfall. You can't flout a Government forever; they come for you, eventually. With pitchforks.
Not to mention that Microsoft did not rise to power on arrogance; Microsoft rose to power based upon imitation and brilliant (aggressive?) marketing. Look at sectors driven by Microsoft's "arrogance".
Is the Xbox making money, or gaining marketshare proportional to MS's investment?
Is MSN making money, or gaining marketshare proportional to MS's investment?
How about Windows Defender? Or Microsoft Passport? How about the variety of MS Home Entertainment (Media Center, Media Keyboard, MS Remote control, WinCE for DVD players, etc . .
Take a look
MS has tons of money; but they aren't generating revenue on their "new businesses". They rake in monopoly profits using unfair marketing tactics (and they've been found guilty of these actions in court, domestically and internationally), and plow that into other sectors of the market, hoping to distort them the same way they've managed to distort the OS and Office markets. This does not demonstrate business acumen; on the other hand, it demonstrates that they suck, real bad, at developing new markets. If Microsoft didn't have billions in the bank its new product offerings would not even blip on the radar.
Take a look at their 5 year share price
Make no mistake; Microsoft is doing something wrong, and me, the GP poster, and the stock market know this. Why do you still have your head stuck up your ass?
Previous financial success does not guarantee future success. It certainly helps, and can be a necessary condition, but is not sufficient. Making statements on how you "own" a market (enterprise search) in which you have no product offerings versus established competitors implies that your delusions are growing worse, not better. These coarse statements by a policy maker at Microsoft should not, and will not, make shareholders comfortable.
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They don't need to, they just need to stay better at it than them.
Naw. Business is usually competition between better products, better marketing, and better cost controls.
Microsoft has none of these, and thus has to resort to this kind of chest beating.
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