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Paul Thurrott Bitten by WGA

suntory writes "Paul Thurrott, one of the most important Microsoft advocates, has been bitten by Windows Genuine Advantage. As some Slashdot users have reported, Paul installed a bunch of updates in his machine and now Microsoft thinks that he is using pirated software." From the post: "Truthfully, I can only imagine what triggered these alerts. The software was installed to a VM a long time ago and archived on my server. I no doubt used a copy of XP MCE 2005 that I had received as part of my MSDN subscription. If the WGA alerts are to be believed, it's possible that Microsoft thinks I've installed this software on too many machines, though that seems unlikely to me. I can't really say. Anyway, that's what it looks like to be a suspected pirate. Like many people who will see these alerts, I don't believe I did anything wrong. I'm sure that's going to be a common refrain in this new era of untrusting software and companies. Ah well."

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  1. Seems like the way to go by neonprimetime · · Score: 2, Informative

    Apple, for example, does not burden users with Product Activation or any similar anti-piracy technologies in its Mac OS X operating system

    Hoo-ray for Apple

  2. Re:I'ma coming, F/OSS folks! by GundamFan · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah... way to slip in the rumor that WGA disables a PC it thinks is pirated. It does no such thing. It is by all standards very annoying to legitimate users (it has caused several problems with my network at work) but it doesn't go around "breaking" computers left and right, Paul's situation is the first time I have heard of a false positive (and I am sure we would hear about it). I hate having to deal with Microsoft products to do my job (not the products really but the "support" that comes with them) but going around and falsely accusing them of what may in some countries be considered a crime is a little much.

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  3. Happened to me on factory installed XPhome by amcdiarmid · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got the same alert on my Gatway laptop with the origional factory installed XP Home. I'm too cheap to use MS Office, so I use OpenOffice & other Openish type software. Suspiciously, the second time I rebooted after this "Update," I also found that a six month old 1 GB memory chip (that had been working properly) went bad. (As in can't boot to windows & a linux bootable cd memory test said the memory was fubared.)

    When I replaced the memory & reinstalled the system from the restore CD, well then the same copy of XPHome was just fine with WGA.

    Kudos Microsoft;)

  4. Re:Not that I expected by tomhudson · · Score: 2, Informative

    as long as they let me know about it before I buy it.

    ... and people wre not informed as to what WGA was, nor given the option of saying "don't want it."

    The best way to avoid it is to get rid of windows.

    The second-best way is to reinstall from scratch, disable product activation (reset5setup.exe - Reset 5.02), and update using AutoPatcher.

  5. Nice response by edmicman · · Score: 2, Informative

    'Ah well'. I'm getting screwed over by a company whose products I paid money for. 'Ah well'. This is just another way it goes in day to day life, guess I'll just live with it. 'Ah well'. Who am I to question the way things are? 'Ah well'.

  6. Re:Everyone should use FireFox for system updates. by Spokehedz · · Score: 3, Informative

    Or how about not using some very suspiciously weird looking website that requires you to install a plugin, and use autopatcher which you can take from computer to computer and update them as you go along?

    http://autopatcher.com/

  7. Re:UGA1.0.1 (major bugfix) by paul248 · · Score: 2, Informative

    For people without that zenity thing:

    kdialog --msgbox "Your copy of KDE is valid.\nPlease share it\!"

  8. Re:Even if done by M$FT, it's still spyware... by gfxguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's more like "mainly if you're a gamer."

    The vast majority of people out there are not doing anything remotely "important" with their computers, and most are just surfing and emailing and chatting an so forth. In other words, no difference.

    I run Windows at home, but then I play a lot of games, and like most people when it's my leisure time I don't want to spend half of it getting Linux to play a game I can "just play" on Windows.

    I would argue it's almost exclusively gamers who need to suffer Windows.

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  9. Re:Is Thurrott An Idiot? by tb3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, that's Charles Petzold, the guy who wrote the early Windows Programming books.

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  10. Re:Not that I expected by db32 · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. You are lucky. When I called them about my wifes computer they basically told me "Go away you theif". When I explained that I have at least 3 valid XP licenses (I hate being forced to buy MS garbage on computers), she told me I would have to reinstall/reactivate. So...their only solution was "Sucks to be you...reinstall everything, haha!" Now this is also the same goon squad that I have called countless times, read off the CD number and they read me a working key over the phone...I wonder how many of their own product keys they have ruined with that? 2. "as long as they let me know about it before I buy it" Well lets look at the release dates. Oct 2001 for Windows XP, Mar 2006 for WGA. I think that pretty much covers the fact that they didn't let anyone know before they bought it. Most people were irritated enough with the stupid activation crap they pulled.

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  11. Bag searches are optional by alienmole · · Score: 3, Informative

    This doesn't really affect your stand about boycotting Best Buy, but just in case you're not aware, you should know that having your bags searched as you leave Best Buy, or any other store that does that, is a purely voluntary thing. You can politely refuse and just keep walking. They have no legal right to require you to submit to a bag search, and they know it (the guards are trained to understand that). There's an article about it here.

  12. Re:Bigger man than I by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 3, Informative
    download and burn the ubuntu live cd (http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ubu ntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso) and boot your pc and/or laptop with that. you'll soon see whether your hardware is detected. chances are it will all just automagically work. you'd be suprised to find that linux drivers (when available, which is more often than not) are way more plug and play then windows drivers. you dont have to install drivers, they are part of the kernel. (except when they're non GPL).

    if you are a home user that is a total newbie to linux i would say anyone you ask will tell you to try Ubuntu. its the most advanced distro in terms of integration, polish and ease of use.

    give it a try, it can't hurt. (you probably want 512mbs to run the live cd or it'll be painful).

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  13. Re:Even if done by M$FT, it's still spyware... by MBGMorden · · Score: 2, Informative

    The "average user" tends to not use any programs that didn't come with the computer. Seriously. My brother's hard disk died about 2 years ago. He was too cheap to buy a new one. I burned him a Knoppix CD and he used that just fine for over a year before I finally broke down and just gave him an extra hard drive I had. He's a drywall worker (construction) with only high school education, and he used Linux just fine after about 2-3 minutes of tutoring (which basically involed saying "Here's your 'start' menu, click on this to start GAIM, and click on this to start your web browser.").

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  14. Re:Even if done by M$FT, it's still spyware... by ncc74656 · · Score: 2, Informative
    And if those two cases are all you're using your computer for than Linux may be fine. The problem is that I think the average user does a bit more, like video editing (my uncle, a computer novice does this).

    It's funny you should mention video editing, as that was one of the things that was keeping me tied somewhat to Windows. Early in the Linux transition, I got apps such as DVD Decrypter, TMPGEnc, and VirtualDub working under Wine. Now, though, I've found that native apps such as vobcopy, mencoder, and avidemux offer comparable (or even better) functionality. In particular, avidemux combines into one Linux app functionality (editing of both AVI and MPEG files, effects, compression in multiple formats) that would take multiple Windows apps to duplicate...and the Windows apps probably won't even be free-as-in-beer, let alone free-as-in-speech.

    There will be a learning curve for the Linux video-editing apps, but there'll be a learning curve associated with most non-trivial apps on any platform. There was a learning curve associated with the Windows video-editing apps I used, and I've been working with computers in one way or another for 25 years now.

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