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Recommendations for a 50" (or Larger) Display?
An anonymous reader asks: "What display device should I get for a conference room? It can't be a front projection and it should be >= 50" and somewhat slim. If I go plasma, it seems like the burn-in problem could be serious if the unit is used as a monitor -- I don't want to look at either a 'Start' or 'KDE' button until the end of time. LCDs don't impress me since I can only get them in sizes of 45" or less. What about DLP? They make noise, but will it drown out a person trying to make a presentation to a room of 10-20 people? Overall, am I really stuck with a max vertical resolution of 768? Are rear projection LCD's or DLP's slim enough to not dominate a room?"
i know you said it can't be front projected but any projector that you would use for a confrence room has the ablitlity to be mounted on the ceiling and also set so that it is to be rear projected .. so you ahve progjector on the screen and then people looking at the other side of screen..
go talk to a local av shop.. or msg me and i will give you part numebrs.. you can do it for a hell of alot lesss than a huge flat screen display..
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The "noise" a DLP makes is hardly something to worry about. I don't even have a top-of-the-line DLP from Samsung and I can only notice it when I'm straining to hear it. I own a 50" JVC that's doing very well for me and I would easily recommend a similar DLP if your only qualm is the noise.
Used to work for TI(The DLP creaters) so saw a lot of DLPs beginning from the very first models. Noise was never an issue and the image was great. But as with all projectors, the only downside is expensive bulbs, which can go poof after a couple of years of use. Make sure you get a warranty/insurance plan which covers that unless you got loads of money to spend
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and don't mind spending the money and don't mind looking around a bit, you can/could get the Grand Canyon Display from Liebermann Inc.
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They used to reside at http://www.go-l.com/ but that seems to be defunct now. Last I checked they had one that was even bigger (5 1600x1200 monitors in one I believe), but since it's gone, I'm not entirely sure what it was called.
A teaser http://www.primidi.com/2003/09/25.html (that's a Roland link, sadly) for now though
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I've found http://wwww.projectorcentral.com/ to be a very useful resource when wondering about projectors.
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First off, all of these technologies are being implemented in rear-projection, so there is some extra space in terms of thickness between the screen and back edge of the sets. But, all three of them are still thin compared to CRT solutions and, if "money is no object" (we'll just pretend it isn't) there are 1080p (1920x1080) sets available in the 50-70" range. One possible snag is that you'll want to make sure that these 1920x1080 sets will actually take such a signal - several of them will only up-convert signals to 1080p. Of course, in the case of a 1080i signal it will still look darn good since it's a simple line-doubling issue. Looking at a slightly older technology, there is rear-projection LCD. Sony offers 1080p HDTVs of this ilk.
None of these items will be as sleek as a direct-view plasma or LCD, but none of them will approach the room-dominating size of an old-school CRT RPTV either. They also won't be inexpensive, though compared to direct-view plasma and LCD units in similar sizes (BTW- Sharp actually does sell LCDs in the 50+" range) they'll be at least competitive and often much cheaper.
Finally, "burn-in" isn't an issue with any of these technologies, though each can have its quirks (for example, some people are sensitive to the DLP "rainbow" effect, though supposedly it has been minimized in the latest 1080p sets).
Rear projection DLP is pretty good, and is less expensive than its alternatives. Whether or not it's appropriate for your requirements is up to you.
I just went to Samsung's site and selected the first rear projection DLP monitor that was over 50". I got this. Whether or not it's too deep is up to you. Samsung is claiming 16.3" deep in their specifications. Some are thinner than others though. As far as noise goes, manufacturers seem to be listening to what their customers want and are competing to make quieter units. You may want to go to a showroom and hear what kind of noise these produce. Also, plug a laptop into a few to see what your presentations look like.
It has been estimated that about 5% of people experience what is known as the DLP Rainbow Effect, where some viewers can see flashes of color separation on the edges of high contrast edges. To minimize this, manufacturers are speeding up color wheels and adding more segments to effectively increase the color wheel speed. As DLP chips become cheaper, I believe that we will begin seeing 3-chip solutions enter the consumer market to completely eliminate the issue. In any case, the rainbow effect is something that you may want to keep in mind when you consider whether or not to use DLP.
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another technology out there that you didn't mention was LCOS. it's similar to a DLP in size. sony is just about to release thier a2000 series which will sport 1080p resolution and 1080p inputs (thereby satisfying your request for more than 768 vertical resolution). there are tons of input types, so you shouldn't have to worry about getting the video to it.
the 50" should be available in the next week or so. they have a 55 and 60 inch projected to launch in the near future. there are a few reviews available with a quick google search, but for the most part, people are waiting (and anxious) to see this new model.
I say DLP, without a doubt. Crisp color reproduction, higher resolution than lcd or plasma.
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Dimensions : 18" deep. Unless your conference room is exceptionally crowded, a foot and a half shouldn't make any difference.
And best of all, plug in a high definition disk player and watch HD movies, or an Xbox 360.
Or, connect a PC up and the onscreen text readable since this is more of a monitor than a television.
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As the subject title says, Sharp has a 65" LCD. It even has a DVI input so your computers will be able to easily interface... It is pricy though, but if you don't want burn-in then it is your best option. Can be found for around $18k.
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It is both cheaper and more effective to get a pile of networked laptops, and have people look at their local copy. Other benefits include people being able to cut and paste, to participate and so on.
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I'd be very impressed to have a 32-foot lcd TV, as well. I knew Samsung was starting to make some big ones, but jeez, I'd have to get a bigger house for one of those bad boys.
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DLP technology, as others have mentioned, is really cool and has a lot of potential. It is also less expensive than LCD/Plasma, but it is not without problems. (For anyone interested in really researching this, go to AVS Forum, the bible on this sort of thing.) If going DLP, I highly recommend looking into waiting for LED light based models. The first one is coming out right about now. Lots of DLP owners are having trouble with lamps breaking within 1 year at costs of >$200 -- sometimes as high as $400. Other complain about fan noise, rainbow effects, or breaking color wheels. LED based models, in theory, should solve all of these problems, and finally create a large 1080p wide screen tv technology that doesn't lose significant picture quality over time.
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Woah! Why exactly is front projection not an option? People often throw out front projection because they want to stand in front of the screen to present and rear projection is not a good option.
Don't give up on front projection until you at least learn a little bit about short throw options. There are front projection systems that can deliver 100" diagonal images in as little as 2' (NEC WT610). If you are projecting from the ceiling to a 60" screen, you could be standing riciculously close (e.g. closer than one usually stands next to a wall) and not even cast a shadow.