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Less Than a Minute to Hijack a MacBook's Wireless

Kadin2048 writes "As reported by Ars Technica and the Washington Post, two hackers have found an exploitable vulnerability in the wireless drivers used by Apple's MacBook. Machines are vulnerable if they have wireless enabled and are set to connect to any available wireless network, fairly close to their default state, and the exploit allows an attacker to gain "total access" -— apparently a remote root. Although the demo, performed via video at the BlackHat conference, takes aim at what one of the hackers calls the "Mac userbase aura of smugness on security," Windows users shouldn't get too smug themselves: according to the Post article, "the two have found at least two similar flaws in device drivers for wireless cards either designed for or embedded in machines running the Windows OS." Ultimately, it may be the attacks against embedded devices which are the most threatening, since those devices are the hardest to upgrade. Currently there have not been any reports of this vulnerability 'in the wild.'" According to this story at ITwire.com, they were able to exploit Linux and Windows machines, too. (Thanks to Josh Fink.)

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  1. Mac Users by Ramble · · Score: 5, Funny

    And in the background we hear 1000 Mac users screaming in horror...

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    1. Re:Mac Users by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 5, Funny

      What, you mean all of them? Come on! I'm sure a few of them wouldn't have read this story!

      (For the humour challenged among you, this is a joke. I know there are a lot more than 1000 Mac users. Only stupid mods mod jokes as trolls and flamebait.)

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    2. Re:Mac Users by marklark · · Score: 5, Informative
      According to John Gruber of Daring Fireball, the affected MacBook was seen to be using a 3rd party wireless card. MacBooks (Pro or not) have wireless built in these days. This is a non-story. And this will probably be fixed soon by Apple for others.

      Next?

  2. That's ridiculous by Spy+Handler · · Score: 4, Funny

    My Powerbooks is safe. Apple is so much more secure than ^.#$ pwned u n00b wahaha

    1. Re:That's ridiculous by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dammit! I was hoping that the fact that I was still on a G4 PB would preserve my smugness! I guess this means I'm going to have to install an cat5 into the bathroom with a port next to the throne.

      C'mon, don't tell me you've never taken your laptop to the "reading room".

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    2. Re:That's ridiculous by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Funny

      "How do you know exactly? Viruses, trojans, and rootkits should be undetectable."

      With "undetectable rootkit detection software", duh....
      Unless the rootkit has an "undetectable rootkit detection software" detector and tries to disable it, then you need "undetectable rootkit detection software detector detector software" to disable the rootkit's detector - no big deal..

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  3. A Mac Exploit by KodeSlut · · Score: 5, Funny

    My reality has been shattered. Macintosh computers have been found to be less than perfect! Time to install WinXP.

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  4. Re:How about warning the vendor. by Snover · · Score: 5, Informative
    You mean like this, from TFA?

    Maynor said he and Ellch have been in contact with Apple, Microsoft and other companies responsible for vetting the device drivers that power the embedded or third-party wireless card devices meant for those systems, and that both companies are working with wireless card vendors and original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) to remedy the problems.


    Also, christ, I'd say they're being pretty responsible about it.

    Maynor said he and his colleague opted in favor of a videotaped demonstration versus a live one because of the possibility that someone in the audience could intercept the traffic sent to a potentially live target and deconstruct the attack -- possibly to use the exploit in the wild against other Macbook users.
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  5. In related news... by Kranfer · · Score: 4, Informative

    In related news, there is an article at ITWire about Intel admitting to a security flaw with their wireless technology as well. Check it out at http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2161539/intel-ad mits-centrino-wi

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  6. Uh by Moby+Cock · · Score: 4, Insightful
    takes aim at what one of the hackers calls the "Mac userbase aura of smugness on security

    This exploit is OS independent. How is this in any way indicative of Mac user smugness? Are they so smug that they made Windows and Linux boxes explotable too?
    1. Re:Uh by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Informative

      R'ing TFA, I found that the chipset in question is an Atheros. As a Free- and OpenBSD user, this made me feel incredibly smug since, unlike Linux, the OpenBSD driver (now ported to FreeBSD) for Atheros cards is entirely blob-free (and has undergone the same security audit as the rest of OpenBSD) and so is almost certainly not vulnerable to this attack.

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    2. Re:Uh by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Windows users are always accusing Mac users of smugness, but there's nobody more smug than a Windows user observing that one (1) particular security vulnerability has been found for Macs. This strikes me as akin to someone with AIDS being smug because some previously healthy person has caught a cold.

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  7. Third party wireless card? by snackdog · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In the video he uses a third party wireless card. Are other cards, such as the built-in card, similarly vulnerable?

  8. More disturbing by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even more disturbing, IMO, is the suggestion in the article that Microsoft will become the ultimate arbiter of device driver safety in Vista, by preventing device drivers from being loaded that they haven't checked out and approved.... because we all know that Microsoft are the experts when it comes to detecting and correcting software vulnerabilities.

  9. Re:How about warning the vendor. by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 4, Informative
    They should have disclosed the vulunerability to Apple and give fair time to patch OS X before going public with it.

    Seeing you can't be bothered reading tfa to find out that they haven't discolsed & gone to some trouble to ensure the vulnerability's details weren't leaked, I'll quote the relevant sections for you:

    hile those device driver flaws are particular to the Macbook -- and presently not publicly disclosed

    and:

    Maynor said he and his colleague opted in favor of a videotaped demonstration versus a live one because of the possibility that someone in the audience could intercept the traffic sent to a potentially live target and deconstruct the attack -- possibly to use the exploit in the wild against other Macbook users.

    One last quote for you (just 'cause its funny):

    "We're not picking specifically on Macs here, but if you watch those 'Get a Mac' commercials enough, it eventually makes you want to stab one of those users in the eye with a lit cigarette or something,"
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  10. Why did they need a 3rd party card? by VTrain0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If the flaws are in Apple's drivers, why did they need to plug a 3rd party card into the MacBook? What user would ever plug a 3rd party redundant wireless card into their computer? Presumably, if they could hack Apple's drivers they wouldn't need the other card. All this video shows is a 3rd party wireless card with crappy drivers.

  11. Linux Wireless by hyfe · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does this exploit run on Linu......
    Nobody knows, they couldn't get wireless up and running on it.

    Requests for testing have been sent to the guy in California who were rumoured to have gotten it running though.

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  12. Re:Misconceptions by users by Yvanhoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, this argument, being used toward Linux users or Mac users, has to stop. We all know that there has been flaws in linux kernel, Mac OS X and windows XP. They are known, thay are published and for most of them corrected. We all know there are more, waiting to be discovered.

    BUT, and you'll notice this is a capital 'but', I have never seen a worm propagate across linux computers (I don't know for macs, I'm not a user of these). I mean, in the 98 era, windows computers were plagued with these. In the pre-SP1 era too. I have never seen a *single* self-propagating thingie for linux. The first one to do such a feat would get a lot of credit in the "scene" (if such a thing still exists). I, for one, believe that the security design of the OS is not stranger to this clean record.

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  13. Actually, your Powerbook probably IS safe! by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Informative

    MacBooks use different wireless drivers (because they have Intel wireless chips). Your Powerbook has the old Airport card; unless there's also a similar flaw in it, it's safe.

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    1. Re:Actually, your Powerbook probably IS safe! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Thank God, for a second there I thought my status symbol might be fading.

      It was bad enough when all this "oil crisis" nonsense ruined my H2 Hummer for me. Overnight I became "guy who's supporting terrorism." It was so much better when I was just "guy with a small penis."

      -Eric

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  14. The ISC discussed this yesterday by pbrammer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Look for more information on the ISC Web site. Bottom line is this is not an OS issue, rather a "firmware/driver" issue.

  15. Re:Centrino. Feh. by Nick+Fury · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not Centrino. Centrino is the name given to Intel's package of Motherboard chipset + wireless chipset + Processor. The new Apple machines don't use an Intel wireless card. They use Intel's chipset and Processor but not their wireless card. This does not make them Centrino machines.

    To be specific the new Macbooks/pros use a Atheros 5006x. This is in comparison to the powerbooks that use a broadcom based card. So Apple doesn't use Centrino.

  16. Watch the video by eturro · · Score: 5, Informative

    The actual video is here.

  17. the Bottom Line by spykemail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My God people do some research. These guys used a 3rd party card because they don't want to reveal what hardware is vulnerable. As for operating systems, the one (and only) reason they chose to use a Mac was for shock value. Windows and Linux are both vulnerable, though if there are any exploits you can bet good money they'll be on Windows and not Mac OSX or Linux.

    This is disgusting. No matter how many stories you run about Mac OSX and how it "really isn't secure" two facts will remain:

    1) It's more secure than Windows. There are both less flaws and less exploits. It doesn't matter why, it's still true and, most likely, it will remain true for a long time to come. It's difficult to prove which has less flaws because neither is open source, but I think all of you, no matter how devoted to Microsoft you are, know deep down what would happen if both systems went open source tomorrow. It's very easy to prove which has less exploits, and it makes no difference whether that's because of less flaws, a different user base, a smaller user base, or some combination of the three because the net effect is a safer OS. Even if you disagree with the statement that OS X has less flaws on the basis that you believe it is secretly harboring more crappy code than Windows my second argument still holds.

    2) There are almost never any malicious programs of any kind spread among Mac OS X users, unless you count people sharing copies of Windows XP to be installed with BootCamp. This may change in the future, but I doubt it.

  18. Re:True? Or many want it to be true? by infolib · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You may notice that one of the guys was in CS grad school. He's presenting results at a conference. His academic credibility is on the line.

    Not actually demonstrating your methods while presenting them at a conference is pretty common in other disciplines where it's really hard to lug around an X-ray diffractometer or the New Guinea Urungwi tribe. In CS it's different, but I think the risk of interception is a pretty good excuse.

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  19. Re:3rd party by fatrat · · Score: 5, Informative


    Read Brian Krebs' follow up

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2006/08 /followup_to_macbook_post.html

    Apple 'leaned heavily' on the presenters to make them use a different card. The built in card *is* vulnerable.

  20. The built-in card IS vunerable by everphilski · · Score: 4, Informative

    check Security Fix:

    During the course of our interview, it came out that Apple had leaned on Maynor and Ellch pretty hard not to make this an issue about the Mac drivers -- mainly because Apple had not fixed the problem yet. Maynor acknowledged that he used a third-party wireless card in the demo so as not to draw attention to the flaw resident in Macbook drivers. But he also admitted that the same flaws were resident in the default Macbook wireless device drivers, and that those drivers were identically exploitable. And that is what I reported.

  21. Apple's wiress drivers are flawed too, read ... by everphilski · · Score: 5, Informative

    check Security Fix:

    During the course of our interview, it came out that Apple had leaned on Maynor and Ellch pretty hard not to make this an issue about the Mac drivers -- mainly because Apple had not fixed the problem yet. Maynor acknowledged that he used a third-party wireless card in the demo so as not to draw attention to the flaw resident in Macbook drivers. But he also admitted that the same flaws were resident in the default Macbook wireless device drivers, and that those drivers were identically exploitable. And that is what I reported.

    ( Looks like Apple was wielding a big stick ... )

  22. Hysterical inability to quantify risk by Catbeller · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kids: PC's are owned through Windows. This is a fact. Own a PC, get hacked, this is the way it is.

    Macs are so secure that A STORY about a third party wireless carded being hacked gets national-level coverage.

    The PC owners rejoicing over the Mac's equivalence to their vulnerable platforms are being ridiculous. The quantifiable risk ratio between operating a Windows laptop and a MacBook is practically infinite, as there are no known virii for MacBooks, no known owning of MacBooks, no known security risks in operating a MacBook. At this point, hackers are well aware of a large installed userbase for Apple products, and certainly would attack them. If they could. Obviously they can't.

    Silly people. Don't forget to run your virus and spyware checkers today. And back up your data, you never know when the bad guys will nail your hard drive in new and exciting ways through yet another buffer overflow in Windows.