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Dealing w/ Unsatisfied Customers?

MoOsEb0y wonders: "At the company I work at, we have set up a series of SLAs giving a list of things they expect our products to do, that we promise we will deliver. In my particular situation, I have a customer who claims that the product we delivered them was slow and unresponsive. However, when we tested it to try and determine what was wrong, we didn't find anything wrong with it. How do you deal with a customer who is bent on assuming that you are incompetent, and that he or she could never have unreasonable expectations?"

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  1. Drop them by SoCalChris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Some customers just aren't worth having. It's a tough choice to make sometimes, but every now and then you've got to drop a customer.

    1. Re:Drop them by kingkade · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, just drop a customer? Word of mouth may get around depending on your business. Besides why would you preemptively drop the customer?? At least lose the customer trying to solve their complaint. Unless it costs you a ridiculous number of man hours or their complaint is about something that you said you cannot support, there's no point to dumping the guy. Even so, politely tell them it'll be in the next version or the real reasons you can not do what's needed.

    2. Re:Drop them by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is where my time working in residential treatment in a psych hospital has helped me a lot in running my own business. Reality doesn't matter: people's perception of reality does. In a case like the one described, the customer has decided that the company is inept, or that this one person is inept. He's sure of that. In my experience, both in business, which includes watching other business owners, and in treatment, is that when a person is constantly making claims that are verifiably false, there is no way that you'll convince them you can do a good job. You can replace the equipment with something that goes twice as fast and does twice as much for free. They *may* thank you, but will soon complain because there's something else the new equipment doesn't do. People like that are never happy, and the problem is NOT you, it's them.

      You can keep trying to help, which one should do for a while, but if they keep pushing, you're better off offering them a full refund and accepting a return, or just giving them a refund and letting them keep the equipment. Why? Because they're just never going to be happy. There's no point in busting your tail for good word of mouth with a bitter person who is never happy with anything. He'll probably keep telling you how great his last supplier was. Call his last supplier and talk with them and you'll find out that he treated them the same way.

      When you get a customer that bad, as Joshua said, "Strange game, Dr. Falken. The only way to win is not to play." Word of mount is great, but when you get a complainer, there is no way to win and the more time you spend on him, the more he'll expect. It's even worse if that kind of person got a good deal in the first place.

      I've had customers that, for one reason or another, got our service for a lower price, and if you have a complainer that manages that, they're even worse. They don't appreciate what they're getting because it's cheap to them, and they end up expecting a lot more than what you do for other clients. I don't know about you, but my life is too short to deal with such people. We fire those customers. As for word of mouth, most people know such a person for what he is: a whiner and complainer. Few listen to what they say. The few people that are their friends are probably like them and I'd rather my competition get them as clients. I'd rather they get frustrated employees or a loss in profit from someone like that than us getting that. If people don't appreciate our product and our pricing structure, then they're welcome to try the competition (which, in my case, is made up of bad programmers with no business or people skills, so I don't have too much to worry about).

    3. Re:Drop them by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Informative

      80/20 rule in bussiness. You spend 80% of the time on %20 of the problems or in this case annoying customers. Sometimes its best to let a competitor waste his resources on.

      I know that sounds very unAmerician in this customer is god concept if your American but its true.

      Just becarefull that you dont keep knocking off customers here and there until you wont have anymore. I have seen customers threaten former pc shops where I work with violence or come in and dude you are going to be soooo sorry bla bla. Not worth your time and could threaten the morale of yoru workers dealing with such jerks. A customer is not god and it only makes sense to serve them if its profitable.

    4. Re:Drop them by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree with you 100%. I've had to drop a few customers like that in my time.

      Heh, I'm reminded of a story that took place in the early 90s, when I was involved with a medical system start-up. Now, these systems were pretty pricey, and I was doing some technical pre-sales support out at this hospital site. Now, the tech guy there was a real arrogant a-hole. I had been taking a lot for a number of days.

      So we set up a demo system for him. Normally, our system used either X-terminals or Windows running eXceed (X-terminal emulation software). But this guy was a TOTAL IBM-a-holic. He worshiped at the alter of OS/2, and insisted we use OS/2 with IBM's X-terminal software. All right, we said, X is X, right?

      Wrong, unfortunately. IBM's X server sucked big time and had a lot of problems. So the guy is giving me these fishy looks in a big meeting with some of his other guys. I say something about the limitations of what I can fix when the X server has bugs, and then he crosses his arms, and says,

      "Well, whose problem *is* that?" (expecting me to roll over and admit the customer is always right, and promise to do what I can to fix it).

      But I'd had enough. My response, "Well, it's YOUR problem, since you specced OS/2."

      Dead silence. The guy's jaw dropped open, like no one had ever dared to speak to him like that. He huffed and puffed and blustered, and we moved onto a different subject. Later on, one of his guys took me aside and said, "I can't believe you said that to him."

      I responded that I didn't care. If it runs like crap in that hospital, then we're better off not selling it to them and poisoning the whole area. I think I even said that they didn't deserve to own the software, heh. :D

      Funny enough, the big boss and I got along much better after that. I think I earned his respect. He still insisted on OS/2, but he stopped blaming us.

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    5. Re:Drop them by tacocat · · Score: 2, Informative

      Regardless of how you treat him, he's probably not going to be a very good word of mouth public relations element anyways. There's nothing wrong with dropping a customer if you do it in an agreeable manner. You need an exit strategy. This is an idea often ignored. But if you do a cost/benefit analysis you will find that there is a certain point where the customer goes from a profitable relationship into a liability and it is in your companies best interest to exit from the relationship.

      Even if they aren't going to be agreeable you still have a policy related to termination of contract or product refunds that will allow you a path to take. If it ends up in court then you can at least show that you adhered to the original contract by following the identified exit strategy.

      Do you really think you will ever sway this customers opinion? For how long? And at what final cost?

    6. Re:Drop them by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I worked for an ISP for a number of years, doing tech support. Of course we had our share of customers who'd complain about every tech they spoke with and expected the impossible. No matter how good their connection was it wasn't fast enough or clear enough. Every little hickup on their side was blamed on us. When we identified a customer as impossible to satisfy, we'd regretfully send them this letter:


      Dear customer:


      We have been examining the history of your account with us and seen a large number of problems, issues and complaints. Apparantly, we are unable to provide you with a level of service you find acceptable. Therefore, we are going to maintain your account for 30 days to let you find another providor then terminate the service. We wish you the best of luck with your new service and hope you find them more acceptable.


      This was a win-win situation. We got rid of the troublemaker, somebody else had to deal with them and the troublemaker couldn't even complain that we'd not given them a chance because we'd started out by accepting responsibility. (Note, however, that we never admitted that the customer's expectations were reasonable.)

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    7. Re:Drop them by Raistlin77 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I have seen customers threaten former pc shops where I work with violence or come in and dude you are going to be soooo sorry bla bla."

      This has happened to me, rather recently actually. I work for a domain registration and hosting company, and the customer in question just happened to live about 3 miles from our office. About 4 months ago, his problem was that he was trying to transfer his domain and wanted us to unlock it, but he could not verify any info we requested - userID, password, security question, etc... He even refused to fax a copy of his driver's license. So I told him that there was absolutely nothing we would do for him unless he was willing to cooperate with us to verify his identity. He bitched and bitched, then threatened to come to our office (hinting at bodily injury), to which I replied happily "OK".

      So an hour later he arrives in my office. I don't think he expected what he walked into. I'm a pretty thick guy, rather intimidating, and certainly capable of pummeling your average joe into the ground. This customer was about 5-foot tall and weighed maybe 140lbs. He looked at me and asked if I were the one he were speaking to on the phone. I grinned and answered "Yep". He immediately turned around and walked out of the office and never came back.

      A couple of days later, a money order arrived in the mail along with a copy of his driver's license, and a request to renew the domain (instead of unlocking it).

  2. The Bottom Line. by violent.ed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You Can't. You Just Can't. Let a higher-up manager deal with them. That's what they get paid for.

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  3. FP? by dosius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can't always assume the customer is always right... sometimes they're just wrong and you just have to let them know. It's all you can do. :/

    -uso.

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    1. Re:FP? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It does.

      You're thinking it means even when they're wrong, they're right.

      That's not true and if you spend the time needed on customers that complain no matter what you do, you lose a lot of money trying to satisfy someone who will never be happy. That kind of customer is wrong -- wrong for your business, wrong headed, and just plain in need of a decade of therapy.

      The customer is not always right. You deal with the ones that you can and the ones that are never happy -- let them go to your competition and be unhappy with them. Some people are just incapable of being satisfied because they have their own problems. You can't help them, you can't fix them. Let someone else waste time and resources on them.

      You can take the attitude you're implying, but that means sinking a lot of resources into a losing endeavour and, in the long run, isn't worth the profit on the sale or even the profit on word of mouth because such people will never give you good word of mouth.

    2. Re:FP? by Tweekster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If he is wasting my time, then he can "pay" someone elses bills while I deal with profitable clients.

      Most businesses simply arent in a desperate need for every single client they can get. Most business like the clients can easily choose who they do business with.

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  4. Humor them by kingkade · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Due diligence is important though so make sure you actually do try to find their problems. If nothing's found, humor them and say you've looked into the problem. Try to get their system specs, environment settings, etc, etc, ad nauseum and they'll learn they better be able to provide a lot of detials next time they decide to report a complaint on a whim if that's the case.

    1. Re:Humor them by andrewman327 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Better yet: try to actually look at their computer that is running so poorly. If they run it on laptops or in a horizontal enviroment, they could bring you their computer and replicate the error. Even if it runs on a desktop, if the problem is serious enough they could consider bringing it in. Try to get the exact enviroment in which the alleged error is occuring.

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    2. Re:Humor them by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I couldn't agree more. I had a hard case were a customer purchased a new computer and because of not only certain software he installed but because of the way he was using the damn thing caused a memory leak and after hours of work, it just froze up losing every thing he did for the last hour or so.

      As it turned out, he installed Microsoft office 2000 (from an internet download site) on a windows 98 computer and only updated to service pack one or so. He then installed some sermon writing program and wrote his sunday sermons on office so he could place an outline in powerpoint and project it durring the church service. There was some obscure problem wich was fixed in later service packs (sp2 i think, been a while) that caused a memory leak when copy and pasting from hyperlinked documents. It wasn't untill I observed the crash and the way the computer was being used before I could pinpoint the problem. I guess service pack two or later checked for authenticity of the microsft office product and he was afraid it would cause problems with him having it installed on two different computers and not owning a legit copy.

      It was one month, four complete wipe and reloads plus replacing almost every component before the problem got to me. After two weeks of not being able to reproduce the problem I decided to have him show it too me (and showed him how to operate the autosave feature). The problem didn't become clear until I noticed the only difference (outside the parts) between his old computer and new was the office service packs. Sure enough I found a reference to a fix for something resembling the problem in the SP2 release notes.

        He had bad mouthed us, verbaly abused the counter girls and techs, made claims that we sold junk computers, trash talked us at his church and finaly threatend to file a lawsuite against us. It was good to explain to him the problem was because he installed pirated software and wouldn't apply the patches because he was afraid of getting caught. I found records were we installed the Office service packs on his old computer when it was serviced previously wich is why it didn't act the same. Needless to say, after I explained the office issue and the problem couldn't be recreated after the service pack update, he still tried to claim he was right and still maintained if it was a good computer, it wouldn't have had the problem. We then filed a slander and liebel suite against him. As part of the judgment, he had to mention in a newspaper add that he was wrong, uninformed to the workings of a computer and was the cause of the problems he was complaining about. He was also barred from entering our premises again.

      That shop is out of business now, the owner died in a jet ski accident while drinking too much and his family had to liquidate to pay the damages. IT probably wouldn't have lasted too much longer because of all the preacher said at the church and stuff ruined any positive word of mouth advertising and made a quite a few other clients go elswere. In hind site, we should have just refunded his money and told him to go somewere else. But after we were commited, we had to solve the issue one way or another.

  5. tough question by frosty_tsm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've been in that situation, and it's not fun.

    If you can't track down a cause for the problem, the best you can do is explain to them the limitations of the product and product development, etc. If they are saying the product is unresponsive when it's just being a little slow, then that's not going to work. If it really becomes a big problem, you may need to refer them to the engineering team.

    Just hope the engineer doesn't say "I'm a people person, damnit!"

  6. Demonstration? by Phantombrain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ask them to give you a demonstration of the product and show you what's wrong with it, then work with them.

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  7. Use my patented method by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
  8. Help them by decep · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the customer is important enough then try to see the problems from their perspective; give them the benefit of the doubt. Assign a customer-oriented, technical person to be onsite to see the "problem" first-hand. See if it really is a problem (bug or implementation) or just an expectation problem. The absolute worst thing to do is dismiss it outright.

    If it is too much trouble for your organization, give your customer the names of some competing product or another product that will fit the task and send them on their way.

  9. Nothing positive to say about this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative


    Hey

    I don't mean to flame, but I have been in the opposite position. I have had a laptop where it will fail something like Memtest, I will send it in and the technicians will say I am not a tech and that there is nothing wrong according to their certified tools. I have had hard drive failuers that techs could not detect and I have had broken keyboard where the one letter (q I believe) only worked if you pushed really hard on it and the technician has said it was normal.

    Since all of that I have moved into a tech job. I have had computers come to me after they have brought them to other dealers and I have found things wrong. Though I am sure you are good at what you do I recommend you check everything. Sometimes the check list does not cover everything. I know that everytime I sent my laptop into Toshiba Tech with a broken DVD drive it was certainly never tested as it always came back broken until I gave up and replaced it myself.

    Having said that I have had one occurence where I could not find something wrong. The customer was saying that the computer was to slow. In that instance I called them up with some timings I had made. E.g. Word takes 10 sec to start etc. Asked them if this was the problem. I would send it back to them and have them time it. I eventually found out that thought everything was suppose to be instantnious.

    So after all that my advice, phone them up. Have them walk you over the phone what is wrong with it. Then you can tell them either you cannot reduplicate the issue, or that you don't support that.

  10. How sure are you that you're right? by blincoln · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's possible that you're wrong, and the product really is performing poorly for them, and not because of a legitimate reason like "the server is slow because so many people are using it simultaneously."

    I have been on both sides in situations like this where the service provider or vendor was wrong. I've made the mistake of jumping to conclusions when I couldn't replicate the problem, or when I thought the customer was being unreasonable. I've also had to deal with people who were clearly making the same mistake, and it cost them any future business from me.

    My advice would be that if they're still convinced it's a problem, either go see it in person (if this is an expensive product), or offer them a full refund.

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  11. Five rules of thumb. by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful
    1. No matter how difficult it may be, always be calm and agonizingly polite. If the customers thinks you are being smug, superior or god forbid implying they are stupid you will quickly discover that it is actually possible for somebody to shout so loudly into a telephone that your eardrum will burst.
    2. Never claim that the customer is wrong unless you can prove it. If he/she claims you or somebody at your company screwed up, be polite, take the customers word for it for the moment and then check the situation out if you are lucky you will prove them wrong if not prepare to eat crow for whoever screwed up and contact the customer. At this point it might be appropriate to keep rule #1 in mind.
    3. Always remember to cover your ass by keeping a 'paper trail' of your interaction with the customer. By that I mean archive your e-mail and snail mail (back when I dealt with customers a lot I actually got people dredging up 2,3 and 4 year old support issues) and tape any conversations if your company offers this facility which a lot of them do these days. If not ask customers to repeat important requests or statements they make on the phone by e-mail so you have a record of it.
    4. If the customer keeps coming back with totally unreasonable claims and you can't get rid of them take the papertrail to one of the PHB's explain the matter to them and have the PHB contact the customer that's the PHB's job if worst comes to worst the PHB can sick a lawyer on the customers lawyer and you can enjoy the ensuing mudslinging contest.
    5. Always remember to keep a regular lookout for a new job that does not involve frequent contact with customers.
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  12. Perhaps they want out? by DuctTape · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It could very well be that the customer realized that they just bought something that was either totally inappropriate or that they spent more than they should, so now they're trying to get out of it by complaining so much that you'll give them their money back somehow, some way. Better to do that than to lose face and admit their idiocy.

    Perhaps too plain and simple an answer.

    DT

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  13. The customer's network isn't your fault. by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have had many issues where a customer's overzealous internal network security slowed EVERYTHING they did down. But they wouldn't talk about their apps, only ours.

    Does the app run in an environment that doesn't have as much connection to anything they might have broken internally?

    Do the guy's co-workers think it's slow as well, or is this person insane?

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  14. Refund by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked on a plugin that's being sold today. One of the things I pushed for early on is that we can offer refunds for people that cannot get it working, even if the fault's on their end instead of ours. As a result, we're pretty quick to say "If we cannot get this working, don't worry, we'll give you your money back." It has been my experience that most customers that hear this early on are happier to work with us troubleshooting the problem. It puts them into a position of feeling like we're truely trying to help them, plus it relieves them of the burden of trying to prove it's our fault. We've had a few hundred sales, and we've only issued a couple of refunds. To the best of my knowledge, we don't have any unhappy customers, and that includes the two we gave refunds to. (Heck, they may even come back when they have some time to put into troubleshooting.)

    I don't know if you can offer a refund or not, but I thought I'd suggest it. I can tell you from personal experience that inability to get your money back is one of the biggest frustrations with support problems. If you can get the money element off the table, you may enjoy a better support experience.

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  15. Be as creative as possible. by botlrokit · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You have opportunities in the short timeframe presented by the interaction with the customer. In those moments, there are a variety of things to consider:

    (1) Their perception is completely based on their inability to properly understand how the system works... or worse, they don't want to know. If what they feel is stirred by their ignorance, you can't beat that until you demonstrate (with a LOT of patience) that it does work.

    This technique is more valuable than most people consider, because when you work with the customer as directly as possible (or explain as simply as you can what the readouts of the Task Manager Processes window actually represents), it actually helps to create the relationship that businesses really want with service providers.

    (2) Another thing guiding their perception is spawned by the possibility that other systems may interfere with your systems. Your benchmarks and your test environment are not the same as theirs in production... what you see as a working, functioning model does not mean the outcome will be the same where they are.

    Easiest example is like a network throughput test. You may see 100mbit full duplex, but they may work in a hubbed environment with a jabbering NIC somewhere on the network. Or a quiet network such as yours may not make multiple requests to the machine in question, but when they put it back online, it may be getting DoSsed out the yang.

    (3) Last thing is to demonstrate the importance of your SLA, and what it does not cover. You must be firm about this, and explain that while your benchmarks indicate proper function, for a reasonable fee you can watch over their shoulder after it's reimplemented.

    This becomes a cost/benefit exercise, but in one fell swoop, if you have the opportunity to visit his site, you might charge an hour's service wage to investigate on your own. Most often when I'm having to look at the impossible possibility, I have to open my mind as wide as possible, and consider as many variables as I reasonably can.

    Keep your perspective as wide as possible. People don't always intend to insist things are your fault, but you better be aware of the fact that this customer will not be the first to bitch. If you succeed at solving the problem, you have both satisfied the customer, and demonstrated your ability to agreeably end hostile customer problems.

  16. Get rid of them by gweihir · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some customers are unskilled and unaware of it (PDF link, 254kB). There is nothing you can do. In these people the level of incompetence is high enough that they cannot recognize their own inability. The only thing you can do is stay away from them. Don't explain, don't try to make it right. You cannot. Limit your losses and get rid of them. If nothing else helps, take the device back and give them a full refound.

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  17. Facets of points-of-view by AllParadox · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some dumb and sort-of-unrelated observations: It isn't how it looks to you, it is how it feels to him. I was walking out of the courthouse with a client after the judge ruled against us. My client told me not to worry about it. He said I had clearly presented his case. He knew there was a chance of losing, and he had lost the gamble. He thought he had received justice because he had his side clearly and eloquently presented, and he felt the judge had ruled against him on one of the marginal points. Southwest Airlines employees like to re-tell the story of the lady that wrote numerous complaint letters, objecting to many of Southwest's unique policies. The staff finally kicked one of her letters up to CEO Herb Kelleher. It took Kelleher sixty seconds to compose his response: Dear Mrs. Crabapple: We will miss you. Love, Herb. It isn't how it looks to him, it is how it looks to everyone else. That one sale will neither make nor break your business. If the rest of the general public is convinced that you treated him fairly and respectfully, listened to his problems, and made a serious effort to find and eliminate any possible problems, then you are ahead of the game. With those kinds of folks, I find it best to go a little overboard. When they complain to friends and neighbors that you didn't do what they wanted, they will be quizzed about what you did do. When the complainers describe the above-and-beyond things you did to fix their problem, first, the audience will disbelieve the complainer, and second, it might just generate some business. It often worked that way for me.

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  18. Process correctly by meburke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I get this all the time. I've been troubleshooting systems since the mid-60's, and now I get a lot of calls to fix systems that other techs and engineers failed to fix. One thing I've learned over all those years, is that 90% of problems on most projects (including my own) are due to inadequate design and specifications in the beginning.

    A problem is a discrepancy between the way things are and the way you want and expect them to be. All problems have a specific description, and elements of timing, location and scope. In order to resolve a customer's problem you must have agreement UP FRONT about what the resolved problem looks like in description, timing, location and scope. Without that agreement about "how you know when the problem is solved" you will just keep tracking unspecified problems. Precision is ultimately important.

    Now, if one of my projects fails to perform within the environment, time and extent that I promised, I fix it. Occasionally the customer has an additional requirement (change orders, anyone?). If I can profitably meet the customer's requirements, I will. Some projects are not worth fixing. In less than one percent of my projects have I had to give a refund or a discount, but I'm willing to do so if that will get some projects out of my hair. As has already been said, some customers are not worth having. I usually find this out when I try to get proper agreement on the specs and prices.

    Occasionally I find there are conditions outside my control that keep the project from performing like the customer expects. I will work with just about anyone to help alleviate these problems, but if it works correctly in my test environment, and if the test environment is spec'd at the design phase, and if the customer agreed to the test environment, then it's not my problem. (The last problem I had like that, about 4 years ago, the customer changed telephone systems just before I installed the project, and the new system had some incompatible idiosyncracies. The customer paid extra for me to resolve the problem.)

    If you are not trained in a formal problem resolution process, I recommend starting with "The New Rational Manager" by Kepner and Tregoe. Good luck

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