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Reuters Admits, Pulls Doctored Photos

fragmentate points to a post on PopPhoto which says "Reuters pulled a photograph of burning buildings in Beirut yesterday after a post on the Little Green Footballs blog outed it as digitally manipulated. The photo, filed on Saturday by freelance photographer Adnan Hajj, ran with the caption "Smoke billows from burning buildings destroyed during an overnight Israeli air raid on Beirut's suburbs." Fragmentate adds "Another image from the same photographer was found to have been doctored. Whether you're a CNN fan, or a FoxNEWS fan, you have to wonder how much of what we see is fake, or exaggerated."

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  1. Re:Fake or exaggerated? by dso · · Score: 2, Informative

    Believe it or not there are still a few honest sources for news. CBC is a good source, and have for many many years reported both sides of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. Fox on the other hand has a serious bias, which is sad and a dis-service to genuine news reporters.

  2. Re:Fake or exaggerated? by mspohr · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you look at the "before" and "after" photos, you can clearly see that the photographer manipulated it to show more smoke (and did a poor job of "smoke cut and paste"). There was a lot of smoke in the original, so you wonder why he felt he needed to "improve" it.

    Reuters says it normally sends all photos to their Singapore office to check for manipulation but this one slipped through. Looks bad but not quite the same level of deception as the hack who put Kerry and Fonda in the same photo during the last election cycle.

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  3. Re:Define "exaggerated." by tgibbs · · Score: 4, Informative
    If a JPEG image comes out of the camera with very low contrast, why is that the "real" scene and not an incorrect camera setting (contrast turned too low)? And if I then take a low contrast image in GIMP and adjust the contrast for better clarity, why is that a "fake" scene and not the "real" scene that I saw?


    This is a bit ingenuous. Even before digital photo manipulation, a clear distinction was recognized between standard darkroom manipulations to adjust brightness, contrast, and color, and "trick photography" such as double exposures (which is analogous with what the photographer was doing with the Photoshop clone tool).
  4. Hezbollah photographer by Chris+Siegler · · Score: 4, Informative

    The bad photoshop work isn't really the story here. It's just what got him fired from Reuters. In one example and yet another, this photographer is acting more as a Hezbollah propaganda operative than a news photographer. He was responsible for one of the most used photos from Qana with the dead child being held up, and as recently as yesterday had a picture on Page 1 of the NYT of an injured Lebonese civilian. He's basically the Peter Parker of Lebanon. It's wouldn't be hard to get the best photos if you were working with the terrorists who control the region!

    1. Re:Hezbollah photographer by fortunato · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe I'm one of those of those people who sit in their living room watching this conflict from afar. But just the same I have no sympathy for a civilian population that lets a group of people like Hezbolla act with impunity in their country. If we had a group of people lobbing missiles and destruction on Canada or Mexico there would be a HUGE uproar. If there were a group of people in our country striking across our border into Canada or Mexico and kidnapping a few soldiers while killing over twice as many to do so there would be a HUGE uproar. We wouldn't stand by and let it happen. There would be intense pressure on our government to do something -- and they would. These "innocent" people are complacent and so they are now paying the price for their complaceny. Its a bummer, no doubt, but just the same if they did something other than turn their heads they wouldn't be in this position. The fact of the matter is that the same people they were ignoring or some even rooting for are now using them as human shields. Mod me down, but I just don't buy into the "innocent victim" thing.

  5. Re:Define "exaggerated." by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 2, Informative
    Doing a little burn-and-dodge to fix the contrast in an image is one thing. Moving buildings around and doubling the thickness of smoke is another. Taking two photos in one session and claiming they were taken weeks apart is a third.

    You are talking about the first. This is editorial work and damages the truth only to the extent that editing the stutters and stammers out of a spoken statement.

    We are seeing examples of the second and third, which are like falsifying sources and, well, lying.

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  6. Re:Define "exaggerated." by sbaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    There are lots of levels of manipulation:

    * Telling people where to stand and how to look - posing the photo - adding props.
    * Framing the original photo to leave out things that spoil the story.
    * Lying about when the photo was taken, where it was taken. Distorting the facts of what we are seeing.
    * Brightness/Contrast/Gamma settings
    * Colour adjustment
    * Cropping - not really any different from framing the photo in the first place.
    * Cleaning up speckles.
    * Taking out distracting objects that don't affect the meaning of the photo.
    * Taking out objects to change the meaning of the photo.
    * Blurring company logos.
    * Painting in whole new objects (like the smoke in the Reuters images).

    There is a whole spectrum of 'manipulation' - some before the photo is taken, some in the camera, some outside the camera and some even just in how the photo is captioned.

    It's a hard call as to where to place the limits.

    Some of the Reuters photos that have recently exposed clearly exceed all reasonable limits of behavior - others don't. The most outrageous thing is how ineptly these were documented - it sends the message "You guys are complete idiots who'll believe even this low grade manipulation."

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  7. Re:Wasn't there a program to find doctored images? by Mikkeles · · Score: 2, Informative
    '"The first thing lost in war is truth."
    (I'd be much obliged if someone could tell me where that quote came from.)'


    'In war, truth is the first casualty.' Aeschylus

    'All warfare is based on deception.' Sun Tzu

    'Among the calamities of war may be jointly numbered the diminution of the love of truth, by the falsehoods which interest dictates and credulity encourages.' Samuel Johnson

    'The first casualty when war comes is truth.' Hiram Johnson (US Senator)

    ... and others

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  8. they are all somewhat guilty by r00t · · Score: 3, Informative

    The general public in Lebanon is to blame.

    Lots of them actually support taking shots at Israel. The people who don't support that have still allowed it to occur.

    I know, it's easy for me to say that the people in Lebanon should have put Hezbolla in jail or executed the whole lot of them. There isn't a one politician over there who dares to take a strong stand against the bastards.

    But yet... a nation is responsible for keeping such things in check. Each and every person has a duty to keep the gangs under control. When this is not done, somebody else will come in and do the job.

    If you let the criminals operate out of your house, don't complain when you get raided.

  9. Re:Before you start implying that someone is paran by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 2, Informative

    # Sort of like the way the fake 60 Minutes article on Bush's little vacation from the Air National Guard was placed by a GOP operative trying to smear CBS and Dan Rather.

    Well, he's certainly not alone in this theory, and it is consistent with what Rove is known to have done to Alan Dixon, John McCain, and many others.


    Well, I can't say with 100% certainty that this didn't happen, but the problem I have with this is that it relies totally on CBS to "do the right thing". Suppose CBS decided they didn't like President Bush and facts be damned, he had to go. Next they steadfastly insist that the documents are authentic and trump out some paid off "experts" to validate them, leaving the Republicans to argue that the docs are made up. It then gets into a "he said/she said" thing where Bush and his staffers can't totally disprove that the docs aren't made up without admitting that they placed them to begin with, so they have to waste precious time and resources defending against a lie they started secretly. I'm just not sure I can go down this path with you on this one.

    # and they're morally deformed enough to try to smear the patriotism of a triple amputee war hero.

    His name was Max Clealand, and they did just what he said.


    I actually live in the state of Georgia, so I can comment on this one. The Washington Post is known for it's left leaning views, so I'm not sure I would bring this out as an "unbiased" source. Cleland was his own worst enemy. Actually this vote, stupid as it was, was not what did him in. Cleland was beaten because of his slavish devotion to the Democratic Party. The Dems opposed a bill creating the Department of Homeland Security because it contained provisions that weakened job protections (think "unions") in the new department. Since the Dems are the party that backs labor unions, opposing such language in the bill was consistent with their viewpoint. Fellow Georgia Democratic Senator Zell Miller has stated that he told Cleland repeatedly that if he voted against the bill, it would cost him the election in the fall. Cleland, always a true soldier of the Democratic Party and never one to differ from the party line, told Miller that he didn't know what he was talking about. So Cleland voted against the bill, just as the Democratic Party told him to do. Much ado was made about this in the fall campaign and it basically became impossible for Cleland to justify why he was "against America's security", so he lost. Cleland was not a particularly good senator and he paid the price for putting the party first above all. Like it or not, Miller was right and this was simply not a bill you could justify voting against and Cleland paid the price. The article link in the Washington Post refers to another incident that while it did not help Cleland, was not directly responsible for his loss.

  10. Re:Bias.. by zstlaw · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your definition of terrorism is over simplistic.

    Initiating conflicts, intentionally targeting civilians, intentionally putting civilians in harms way = terrorism.

    Guatemalan assasinations

    CIA wrote the book on targeting civilan targets and using "martyrs". The manual recommended "selective use of violence for propagandistic effects" and to "neutralize" (i.e., kill) government officials. Nicaraguan Contras were taught to lead:

            "demonstrators into clashes with the authorities, to provoke riots or shootings, which lead to the killing of one or more persons, who will be seen as the martyrs; this situation should be taken advantage of immediately against the Government to create even bigger conflicts."

    The manual also recommended:

            "Carefully selected, planned targets -- judges, police officials, tax collectors, etc. -- may be removed for PSYOP effect in a UWOA [unconventional warfare operations area]."

    Wrote the book on torture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_manuals)

    And don't forget that we put Sadam in power. and trained that pesky Afganistan freedom fighter named bin Laden

  11. Re:Sanity check then by cheezedawg · · Score: 2, Informative
    What you are doing is not "fact checking". On the contrary, this is one of the worst examples I have seen of partisan conjecture, only you have somehow convinced yourself that this constitutes "fact".

    Guess what? Karl Rove is not a political evil genius. He isn't even that good at what he does. He lets too many attacks and assumptions about the President go unchallenged. Your posts are a great example of this. Take this paragraph, for example:
    Not really. Nothing in the memos was contested, and all of it had been previously reported (e.g. by the BBC). Bush never even attempted to deny any of it. The people who would know even stated that the information in the memos was essentially correct. So it wouldn't have helped Kerry's team much at all to have the documents, even if they had been legitimate.
    Lets take a look at the inventions here that you are trying to pass off as fact.
    Nothing in the memos was contested, and all of it had been previously reported (e.g. by the BBC).
    Everything about the memos was contested. There isn't a shred of evidence to prove the assertion that George Bush disobeyed a direct order or was AWOL from his obligations in the National Guard. These memos where the only thing that supposedly proved this, and they turned out to be fake.

    Bush never even attempted to deny any of it.
    Of course he did! He has denied the accusations that he didn't fulfill his obligations with the National Guard, and this is backed up by the fact that he had completed more than the required flying hours and was honorably discharged from service.

    The people who would know even stated that the information in the memos was essentially correct.

    In this case, the only people that would know were dead.

    See, if Karl Rove was a good political strategist, let alone the evil super-genius that you believe he is, people like you wouldn't still be spreading baseless rumors about his National Guard service around as fact.
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