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No Virtual PC for Intel-based Macs

Techie writes "Microsoft has decided not to move forward with a version of Virtual PC for the Intel-based Macintosh. The amount of time it would take to bring Virtual PC to Intel would be roughly equivalent to creating the product from scratch, Scott Erickson, director of product management and marketing for Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit, told eWEEK. The article says Microsoft will also be discontinuing support of Visual Basic scripting in the next version of Office for Mac." From the article: "As cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority at Microsoft, Erickson says that as the company develops the next version of Office for Mac, the files will continue to be compatible across platforms, including with the 2007 Microsoft Office System for Windows. VB macros within files will not be accessible and users will not be able to view or modify them. However, the files themselves can be edited without affecting or changing the macros. "

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  1. VPC isn't the only virtualization solution by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fortunately, Parallels is still available for the Mac and later this year VMware will be as well. I don't think MS will be missed at this party.

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    1. Re:VPC isn't the only virtualization solution by varmittang · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yep, hell froze over and MS decided not to continue to make a piece of software.

      In other news, Paris Hilton is not having sex for a year! Oh my, I just saw a pig fly. I'm going back inside now.

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  2. Competition? by alucinor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe Microsoft didn't like the "Hasta la vista, Vista" banners at the Mac show yesterday? Or especially "Redmond has a cat, too. A copycat." Perhaps they feel like they're being threatened?

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  3. Removal of VB macro's by r2q2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That has to be one of the BEST features ever that Microsoft could do for macintosh.

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  4. Now they've got Apple by the corones.. by OlivierB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sure you can read and write compatible files with Ms Office. You can even run the "old" office under Rosetta with Support for VBA.
    But going forward, Office 2004 for Mac will no longer be availble and no IT manager in his right mind will go with an office suite that doesn't support scripting.

    VBA is slow enough as it is, nevermind under Rosetta emulation. Now if there is no more support for VBA, companies will shy away from Mac even more.
    Apple better get their "Tables" (aka their Excel equivalent to Pages) working asap. And it better be fully compatible with VBA too.

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    1. Re:Now they've got Apple by the corones.. by Dr_LHA · · Score: 4, Informative

      Where are those damn mod points where you need them?

      Office 2007/8/whatever will support scripting, but it will be done using Applescript rather than VBA.

      Also VBA is being depreciated by Microsoft in the Windows versions of Office in favor of .NET scripting. Its quite possible that the new Mac Office will support this scripting as well, making the "next gen" scripting compatible across both platforms.

      The real reason behind this move, rather than MS being evil and "slapping" Apple, is that the VBA compiler doesn't work on Intel Macs, and as VBA is getting replaced anyway, MS made the decision to dump it completely rather than putting a huge effort into porting a part of the system that will go away in the next few years.

      Its annoying to those who rely on VBA, sure. But if you want to support legacy apps, you can continue to use the legacy version of Office.

  5. Re:No problemo! by NormalVisual · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If VMware's Mac product is as good as Workstation is on the PC, then it's almost a given that my next machine will be a Mac - at that point, there really won't be anything of consequence that I won't be able to run on it.

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  6. Correction by peipas · · Score: 4, Funny

    The amount of time it would take to bring Virtual PC to Intel would be roughly equivalent to creating [a Microsoft] product from scratch...

    Or, in other words, 6+ years. I don't blame them!

  7. Re:Less software? by diersing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wouldn't have anticipated someone saying cross-platform compability is a top priority while dumping a cross-platform compability tool for reasons of it being too hard.

  8. Do what now? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny
    That must be a typo. Never fear, I shall fix it for them..
    "As attempting to completely bork cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority at Microsoft.."
  9. Hold the conspiracy theories... by itsdapead · · Score: 5, Informative

    What some of the pundits (on Macrumours and elsewhere) seem to be forgetting is that what VirtualPC does (runs x86 code on a PowerPC by emulating the x86 processor in software) is technically very different to what Parallels and VMWare do (allow x86 code to run "natively" within a virtual sandbox) - even if the end result (Windows running in a window on your Mac) is similar. A simple port of VPC to Mactel would have its ass handed to it by Parallels and VMWare. So when MS say:

    The amount of time it would take to bring Virtual PC to Intel would be roughly equivalent to creating the product from scratch

    ...they probably have a point.

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  10. newspeak by Eivind · · Score: 5, Funny
    VB macros within files will not be accessible and users will not be able to view or modify them. However, the files themselves can be edited without affecting or changing the macros.

    This must be some new and novel definition of "compatible" of which I was previously unaware.

    MS-Office --- the office-suite that is not even compatible to the same version of itself .

    Hilarious.

  11. Cross-Platform Compatibility? by Gleng · · Score: 5, Funny
    "As cross-platform compatibility remains a top priority at Microsoft"

    Great. Now I have to spend the next 20 minutes scraping coffee and lung material off of my keyboard and monitor.

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  12. Re:Brilliant! by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The problem is that Apple seems to be schizophrenic in their relationship with Windows. On one hand, they smugly deride Windows at every opportunity ("Hasta la vista" and the like). On the other hand, they release stuff like bootcamp (a tacit admission that their platform is sorely lacking in ports of games and other software).

    As long as this weird love-hate relationship continues, MS is never going to be able to fully embrace them, or feel comfortable supporting them in any way that might give them an edge over Dell and other PC manufacturers.

    MS's worst nightmare is Apple gaining a corner on the PC market the same way they've cornered the MP3 player market (and using their position to bully MS and others in the PC market the same way they've bullied them with the iPod and iTunes). MS wants to be the one DOING the bullying, not the one BEING bullied.

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  13. This is a feature, yes? by jyoull · · Score: 4, Funny

    "VB macros within files will not be accessible and users will not be able to view or modify them. However, the files themselves can be edited without affecting or changing the macros."

    This sounds like a huge benefit! Maybe it'll encourage a few more people to switch, to improve the security of their Office environment. I'm not an Apple fanboy, but kudos to Microsoft for this security unhancement. Perhaps if this goes well, they'll similarly unhance the Windows version of Office.

  14. Re:Less software? by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes, VPC runs on Windows, but how similiar is the Windows and OSX codebase? Not very.