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Back to the Board - Carcassonne

Heartless Gamer writes to mention a feature on Grimwell online looking at the great board game of Carcassonne. Yet another terrific title from Rio Grande, the article takes a look at a possible introductory title for someone who might not have played a more serious board game. From the article: "Once you place a farmer, you can't get that follower back. The question thus becomes, do you play it now while the field is empty or do you wait, hoping your opponent won't claim the field the following turn? Farms can mean big points at the end of the game but could also mean missed points during the game if you run out of followers to play. The game plays smoothly once the players are briefed on the rules. Turns fly by and games complete relatively quickly. The only trick area of gameplay is ensuring players placing farmers are not overlapping other farmers. There can be a lot of land tiles between farmers, so a keen eye is required to ensure the rules are followed. Fortunately, the rule book has plenty of examples to help the players out."

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  1. Excellent Game by TekReggard · · Score: 4, Informative

    I like this game a lot. Some other favorites are Settlers of Catan[And its two expansions], Age of Mythology [The boardgame], Betrayal at House on The Hill, Arkham Horror, Power Grid, and Puerto Rico. Check the games out if you want something new to sit down and play with your friends... we're hooked. -TKSV

  2. Puerto Rico by Jonboy+X · · Score: 2, Informative

    For deep, engrossing, widely variable strategy, try Puerto Rico. It's different every time you play it. For more of a "get in your opponents' way" kind of experience, I'd recommend Power Grid (yes, there's an English version). Finally, if you're into path-building but want a bit more ramdomness in your game, try Settlers of Catan. All good, all German. We used to play these games all the time at lunch at a place I worked a while back, and it's one of the things I miss most about my time there.

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  3. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Interesting

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  4. The scoring is too complicated... by happy_place · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I love this game, but honestly haven't played it for a long time, because I have to look at the rules everytime I play it (after a break). I had the original RIO game, plus an expansion, but now... I can't remember the rules that well. Further, not only is it bad that I don't entirely remember the rules, but it just got so difficult to explain to folks how to score it, and friends come and go, and well... I was never quite sure I was scoring it right by the end... when we want to play a quick game, games with difficult scoring, tend to take a backseat to the easier-to-explain variety. --Ray

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  5. Spoonheads !??!?! by krell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those Carcassonne guys gave Ben Sisko more than his share of headaches.

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  6. Carcassonne: The Discovery by lillian · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Mmmmm, games!


    The group I play with prefers Carcassonne: The Discovery. Is has a different spin on managing your meeples, and is a shorter but more strategic game. The other Carcassonne games are good too, though.

    Check out http://www.meeplepeople.com/. I'll also team up with the previous posters regarding Settlers, Puerto Rico and especially Power Grid. PG is our group's favorite right now, and we often talk about how the various aspects of the game could be modelled in code.

    We also like

    Ticket to Ride: Europe
    Category 5
    Citadels
    Seafarers of Catan
    We think we might like Twilight Imperium (3rd Ed.) but it takes like 8 hours to play (the box says 240 minutes...HA!), and we've only managed
    to play once ;-)

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  7. Great game by batkiwi · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is a great game for people looking for games in the Catan/Amun Re/etc style but with quicker gameplay and simpler rules without sacrificing much of the "heart" in theses games.

    The best thing is that it can be played 2 player. It's best with 3-5, but it's still enjoyable with 2.

    1. Re:Great game by happy_place · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the rules to the basic Settlers of Catan are much simpler to explain to a newbie, than Carcassonne. Perhaps it's just because one doesn't fully understand the impact of your moves in Carcassonne until after you've entirely completed a game, and scored everything... so you are forced to play through an entire game or two before you can really get the strategy... Settlers of Catan, you just say, "Be the first to get X points..." (which has always been something of an arbitrary and unfulfilling end to an otherwise enjoyable game). :) --Ray

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  8. Great game! by yttrium · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is a great game, and it's fun for 2 players or as many as 5 (you can get a sixth color in an expansion) -- plus it only takes 45 mins or so to play. The rules are simple enough that you can bring this out at a party and get a game going quickly. Another great game along these lines from Germany is Alhambra. Of course, Settlers of Catan is a classic too.

  9. Some others in a similar style, and not... by jpatters · · Score: 2, Informative

    Others have mentioned Puerto Rico, and The Settlers of Catan, which are awesome games, but I always find myself coming back to the old school wargaming goodness of Titan which, even though it is an elimination game with a completely different style and feel as all of the newer, more slickly designed games that are all the rage now, nothing beats throwing a fistfull of dice around to really get the blood pumping. It even has a free java implementation.

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  10. Re:Those German Boardgames by vitamine73 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hey, I agree that these are great games, but the article seems to be about games for beginners. Puerto Rico and Tigris and Euphrates certainly do not fit in these category. I think however that great games like the different flavors of carcassone, and even El grande, and Power Grid are great for beginners and seasonned players alike. Settlers of Catan is really cool if you play with the Cities & knigths expansion, but a bit lame (IMHO) without, that is a lot of rules to stomach for a starting player. My favorites also include Caylus (yes, I like both Puerto Rico AND Caylus;) and Princes of Florence, but I would recomend neither to starting players.

    A great place to look for games is boardgamegeek that as listings by ranking, number of players, etc..

    That being said, anyone wants wood for sheep?

  11. Carcassonne is great for children by georgeha · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can play this with my daughters (10 and 5), and the ten year old wins about one third of the time, without me holding back too much. It's a wonderful family game, for people ages 5 and up.

  12. Re:Carcassone by yttrium · · Score: 2, Informative
    There's quite a bit of strategy to this game. Balancing how many guys you have placed on the board at any time, whether you claim fields or not, how you can sabotage other players' cities to make them unfinishable, how you can insert yourself into/onto things that other players already own, etc...

    I agree there's not the depth of Settlers, but this is a great game.

  13. german games by angrymilkman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Germans really make the nicest games, I'm hooked to the card trading game "bonanza" / bohnanza (in german; bohn is bean). You basically grow different kinds of beans and when you have enough beans you can trade them for gold. But the player is limited in the number of beans they can grow so you have to trade with other players. Very funny.

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    1. Re:german games by kubrick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We got given that a while ago. The funny thing about it is that the person with the highest level of trust among the group outside the game often ends up winning, because they're using that trust in order to swing the trades necessary... and the accountant we play it with doesn't always do well, because everyone's paranoid about trading with him. :)

      I like the forced order of the play as well (FIFO from the cards drawn). It means that your trades and played cards have to be woven together very neatly to keep up a good flow.

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    2. Re:german games by angrymilkman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you like the social aspect of games there are two other games i can recommend: - Die wervolfe fon dusterwald - its a game about werewolves everybody gets assigned a card (werewolve, citizen, witch, hunter etc). The goal of the game is for the werewolves to kill the citizens and for the citizens to identify and burn the wolves. Its a brilliant game that can be played with up to 18 people. its a really cool game where everybody gets parranoid accussing others of being a wherewolf - kuhhandel - again a card trading game similar to bohnanza but very complex (you have to get four of the same animals and every turn you can either auction off an animal or force trade with other player and there is no real strategy for winning which makes it such a brilliant game. I wonder why almost all games come from germany? don't they have computers or tv's ;-)

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  14. Re:Carcassone by evilhayama · · Score: 2, Informative

    As an experienced player this is sometimes the case, but usually there are a few places to put a tile which will help you in the long term. For beginners however it's more interesting as you discover new ways to steal cities, expand fields etc. Carcassonne has too much randomness to have lots of depth, but it's super approachable and hence great for beginners/children. It's the gateway drug of german board games!

  15. Re:Carcassone by pruneau · · Score: 5, Informative
    I totally disagree. Like someone else pointed, the medieval version of that game can (and will) be picked up by any people older than 8. As well, we had tournaments with the hunter and gatherer version, and I can tell you that assigning everything to luck is just a bad excuse for losing. We are still playing this game with my 30+ friends, and knowing the layout of the tiles by heart helps a lot. Now, if you really want to tone down luck, just make sure that everybody plays with two tiles to choose from in his hand, for example. Anyway, our recommendations:
    • medieval carcassone: good for beginner, especially with the inn extension (allows 6 players)
    • hunter and gatherers: very good fun for a long time for the vanilla version.
    • settlers version: advanced one, can be very frustrating, but probably the more refined one. Lot of finesse and more options than before.
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  16. carcassonne? by rlbond86 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone knows that the REAL best game is Blokus!

  17. Free online multiplayer ports of Rio Grande games. by Merithiel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Brettspielwelt (BoardGameWorld in German) has been online for a really long time and has around 40-50 various Rio Grande games which one can play multiplayer via some java applet and standalone client.

    Check the Wikipedia entry on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrettspielWelt and here is the English portal: http://www.brettspielwelt.info/

    My favorites are Carcassonne(of course!), Peurto Rico(games can be VERY LONG though), and Tichu.

  18. An excellent "gateway" game by alanhunt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Carcasonne is an excellent entry point into the world of strategy board gaming. The rules can be learned in about 15 minutes, but it takes many games to really get a sense of winning strategies. It is also infinitely replayable, since the board is different every time you play. Truly, one of the great games of the last few years.