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Old Methods Used to Detect Liquid Explosives

Bain writes "According to Wired News, the UK fear of terrorists using liquid explosives could be dramatically reduced by the use of some very old tech. Recent events have seen passengers forced to pack only the barest of essentials into clear plastic bags and the restriction on all liquids force even mothers with young children to have to test bottled milk to prove that it isn't a dangerous liquid." From the article: "For a machine to detect explosives in liquid or solid form, it bombards an object with energy -- such as radio waves or neutrons -- and in seconds measures the reaction, a response that differs depending on the material's chemical properties. Software in the machine is programmed to alert screeners if it detects chemical signatures known to match those of dangerous materials. A key question, though, is whether this kind of detection system can realistically block terrorists from bringing seemingly innocuous liquids past security and combining them later to deadly effect."

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  1. Re:Is it THAT big a problem?? by kimvette · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hello! Beverages! Bottled water.

    The current situation is the direct result of the INS' failure to do its job. What needs to be done is ALL federal funding be removed from communities which proclaim to be safe havens for illegal aliens (e.g., Cambridge, Boston). No, actually, the local politicians should be facing federal charges. Why the FUCK should 99.999% of the population face fascist policies because of an evil few? The terrorists have already won.

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  2. Re:X rated rays by retrosurf · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Because private parts is pornography, which is worse
    than terrorism. People must not be subjected to accidental
    pornography rays generated by terrorhurtz waves.

    Pornography rays have been effectively combatted in the
    USA. John Ashcroft used drapes to keep the TV cameras from
    projecting the porn rays emitted by the naked statues
    in Washington DC, and we all know what happened to the
    TV network that allowed the porn rays to escape from Janet's
    nipple. Howard Stern has been banished from the Earth
    entirely, and now must bombard the earth from space with
    his cosmic pornography rays.

    Terrorism will destroy us from without, but pornography rays will
    destroy us from within.

  3. Re:Trivial solution by Freexe · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I'm from the UK, and any measure we come up with can be bypassed (terror can be caused a number of ways without planes).

    People need to realise that the chance of being killed by terrorists is minimal and nothing to worry about (you don't worry about crossing the road do you?).

    Go about your lifes and be friendly to your neighbours.

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  4. Re:Trivial solution by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    People need to realise that the chance of being killed by terrorists is minimal and nothing to worry about (you don't worry about crossing the road do you?).

    I guess we'd have to do some homework, but it's a pretty good bet that nearly 3,000 people did not also die while crossing the street in New York on 9/11.

    Likewise, it's a pretty good bet that there are very rarely days when 200 Spaniards die while crossing the street in Madrid. Or when hundreds burn alive in Bali nightclubs from standard-issue accidents.

    Do you really think that if we just stopped bothering with security and were just "friendly" to everyone instead that there would be no attacks against western culture?

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  5. Re:Chemistry is everywhere! by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Don't be absurd. Are you suggesting that since car travel can't be made perfectly safe while driving over 1kph, that we should just waive any traffic controls whatsoever? Might as well let people drive 300kph jet cars through town, since driving 60kph isn't perfectly safe, right?

    Use reason, here.

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  6. Re:Trivial solution by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    by making the public worrie about death by terorists and telling them they can't bring anything on the plain or take pictures of buildings "western culture" is already lost..

    So, specifically, what would you do? If your notion of western culture doesn't include preventing people from taking weapons on airplanes, are you saying that we shouldn't bother with any precautions? Live free or die, right? So, no speed limits, no worries about just-released long-time felons buying handguns, and anyone that wants to run a mai-order anthrax lab should (since they are doing so here in our freedom-loving western culture) be free to do so, right? Right? Or are there some precautions you're willing to take? Say, traffic lights? Or does "Don't Tread On Me" include defying any attempt to control when and how you stop your car at intersections?

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  7. Re:Trivial solution by ScentCone · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    and at what point is the government tormenting women and children and keeping students from reading books make you feel wrong about what they are doing???

    Please cite an example of the TSA "tormenting women and children." And, just for fun, since you brought up that demographic, keep in mind the idealogy of the people that are driving the jihadist mindset that makes all of this an issue. Remember how that framework most recently expressed itself when it had free reign? That would have been Afghanistan, as ruled by the Taliban. You know: the kind folks that actually tormented women and children. By prohibiting mothers from teaching their daughters to read, on pain of death. By executing women for having been raped. By dragging women out into what used to be a soccer field at lunchtime and shooting them in the head in front of a crowd for... daring to try to work to feed their families. That is tormenting women and children.

    Making sure that someone carrying a bottle of something onto a plane when a group of people working on explosives specifically in that format, including at least one pregnant woman and another with an infant were about to use such to take down a bunch of planes...? That's "torment"? By what measure?

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  8. Re:One problem solved, an infinite amount remains by mpe · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I would prefer to hand out daggers to each passenger, then who cares if a terrorist smuggles a box cutter on the plane. The majority of people on the plane don't want to die and will eventually prevail in a knife fight.

    Along similar lines people have suggested issuing every passenger with a gun...

  9. Re:Trivial solution by Amouth · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    i think you need to go read some history books and learn that it wasn't alwasy this way.. that we as a nation created the problem we have.. there is a reason other nations hate us.. mabey .. sut mabey if you looked at all the conflicts we have started and walk away from to let people starve and die while people with guns kill for fun.. mabey then you will realize that we as a nation over the past 60 years have killed more inocent people than any of this cram that is going on now..

    you ... you are the one that has their head stuck in the sand.. and before you go ranting about waht is and isn't Islamic/un-Islamic feel free to read their text.. once you have and you understand it and them feel free to make judgements - till then .. start reading

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