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Microsoft Insists IE7 is Standards Compliant

ReadWriteWeb writes "Microsoft's Chris Wilson, the Group Program Manager for IE addresses the issue of whether IE7 is CSS and Web standards compliant. Last week a Slashdot post claimed that IE7 was basically non-compliant with CSS standards. But Chris Wilson says that isn't true and that standards improvements is a big part of IE7. He admits that there were a ton of bugs from IE6 that have caused web developers a lot of pain, but says that IE7 will address those and be standards compliant. He goes as far to say that IE7 supports Web standards even at the expense of more backwards compatibility."

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  1. Sounds familiar by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I'll respect you in the morning."
    "I won't *** in your mouth."
    "I'll pull out in time."
    "We're gonna make this the most secure OS ever!"

    Even Bush knows, "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, not gonna happen."

    Guaranteed, 100%, that IE7 will be less standards-compliant than either Firefox or Opera.

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    1. Re:Sounds familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is Slashdot. Your references are going to go right over everyone's heads.

    2. Re:Sounds familiar by 605dave · · Score: 3, Funny

      What Bush actually said was "Fool me once (pause) shame on (pause) you. (Long pause) Cause, cause you can't get fooled again." Old southern expression mangled in a way only GW can.

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  2. Pesky problem by jbeaupre · · Score: 3, Funny

    IE7 still has the pesky problem, even after all the patches and rewrites, of being Internet Explorer from Microsoft.

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  3. In other news.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft changes Web Standards to comply with IE7.

  4. Puff ball interview by RingDev · · Score: 4, Funny
    Now, I'm all for IE improvements. As a web developer with a large number of IE based users, any improvement to IE and its standards adoption is a good thing. But this interview read more like a fan boi in a dev shop that a journalist looking for answers. Especially this question:

    Richard: To clarify then, you're saying that with IE7 you're hoping to support as many of the CSS Web standards as possible, while also having that backwards compatibility. That's your vision for IE7, to definitely support Web standards?


    Did the interviewer have to remove his face from the interviewees crotch to ask him that question?

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  5. In Other News..... by Azeron · · Score: 5, Funny

    Satan insists AntiChrist 50 - 90% like Jesus.... except better.

  6. Re:"no official CSS test suite"??? by KDR_11k · · Score: 3, Funny

    You see, that's only for the W3C CSS standard. There is no official test suite for the Microsoft CSS standard.

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  7. Re:Acid Test by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
    Question is, do they use Acid for measurement?

    No, but the design team dropped a few tabs.

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  8. And now for something completely different: by symlink · · Score: 2, Funny
    How many Microsoft programmers does it take to change a lightbulb?

    None. Microsoft simply declares that "dark" is now the standard.

    I guess it's good to be the king.

    *waves goodbye to his good karma*

  9. Other quotes from the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "IE7 is Standards Compliant"

    "These aren't the droids you're looking for"

    "You can go about your business"

  10. Standards checklist by wardk · · Score: 4, Funny


    Only runs on Windows - check
    apple-like icons - check
    Tosses bs errors on competetitor sites - check
    runs viruses quietly - check
    ignores CSS specs MS doesn't use - check

    what's the problem?

  11. Content-Type: microsoft/knows-best by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But is it yet HTTP-compliant? Specifically, does IE 7 treat the Content-Type header provided by the server as authoritative as required by RFC 2616 Sectino 7.2.1?

    I'm sick of sites that, say, put up a Linux boot CD up as a .iso file and don't configure their website to treat *.iso as application/octet-stream and serve it as text/plain, but I hate even more that Internet Explorer will download the file to disk where all HTTP-compliant browsers will properly render the ISO file in the browser window as plain text, resulting in the server never being reconfigured to serve the file as the proper type because the person who set it up only tests with IE!

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  12. Re:cut MS some slack by hkgroove · · Score: 2, Funny
    So many users are uninformed about this sort of thing, or are just too lazy to figure out how to switch all their bookmarks over to a new browser...

    I was able to get my girlfriend to switch to Firefox and to start drinking Guinness (and she now drinks it more than me). Anything is possible.
  13. Re:cut MS some slack by WilliamSChips · · Score: 5, Funny

    For example, a Slashdotter got a girlfriend, that's proof that anything is possible.

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  14. $title ~= s/Compliant/Complaint/ by LAN+Lubber · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft Insists IE7 is Standards Complaint

    That would have been the greatest typo evar...

    not to mention a truer assertion for M$ to make. ;)

  15. Re:cut MS some slack by Andrewkov · · Score: 2, Funny
    I was able to get my girlfriend to switch to Firefox and to start drinking Guinness (and she now drinks it more than me). Anything is possible.

    Be carefuly not to stab her with the bottle opener, she won't be as much fun when deflated.

  16. Re:cut MS some slack by yo_tuco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Create an icon that is the "Blue E" for IE and have it point to FF instead. If she doesn't know how to find IE after that, she is at your mercy! Hum, but, on the other hand, if she gets pissed then the old Chinese proverb may bear more truth than fiction: Man who fight with wife during day has no piece at night!

  17. Re:cut MS some slack by cyborg_zx · · Score: 3, Funny

    These Slashdotter has a girlfriend?!? jokes are as cliched as the overlords joke.

    In Soviet Russia clichéd girlfriendless overlords welcome you.

  18. Re:Hmmm. by NMerriam · · Score: 2, Funny

    To carry out the procedure you describe, taking into account all the different interactions between multiple element types, multiple attributes, multiple properties with multiple values of multiple lengths would involve writing millions of testcases. Are you volunteering?

    If only we had some sort of machine that could perform tasks in an automated fashion much faster than humans. If it were able to be "programmed" in some way, it could indeed calculate or "compute" results for large numbers of problems in short periods of time.

    It would be great if Microsoft looked into such an automation tool, I suspect it would be handy in such situations where you have to test millions of permutations on a system. I guess until now they've only been dealing with simple things like Windows operating systems, which only have a few hundred possible testcases that are all run manually.

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