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Another Linux PDA to Challenge the Nokia 770

vhogemann writes "It seems that the number of Linux PDA devices just keeps growing, the German based phone maker Road just announced an Qtopia based Linux Cellphone/PDA. The original article gives more details: 'Opening the clamshell device reveals a QWERTY keyboard and a 640 x 240 display — closed, the unit presents a 102 x 65 monochrome phone screen. The HandyPC contains the usual array of PIM and messaging apps, along with a viewer to read Microsoft Office files. It will ship with PC synchronisation tools, media player software and a web browser. It can even be used as a voice recorder.'" Rather than Nokia's 770, to me Road's phone more closely resembles Nokia's 9XXX series.

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  1. Great! by andrewman327 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Rather than Nokia's 770, to me Road's phone more closely resembles Nokia's 9XXX series.
    Whatever it is that has the name 9XXX, I want one.


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  2. Meh. by BecomingLumberg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure, its cool, and it runs Linux, but will it be manufactured in large enough quantities to make it economically realistic?

    I doubt it.

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  3. GRPS/EDGE makes this already obsolete by disc-chord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've played with all of the data carriers and EDGE is just not what it was cracked up to be. Verizon may suck for voice quality, but their EVDO is tops. I'm able to listen to 160kbit streams all day long no matter where I go in Chicagoland on my XV6700.

  4. mmmmm..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    A QWERTZ kezboard...

  5. Good as a phone, too. by krell · · Score: 2, Informative

    Looks rather decent, all the way around. None of the bizarre smaller-than-chicklet buttons in funky curved arrays that mar similar devices. It even has a standard touch-tone pad for phone functions (something many regular cell phones even lack).

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  6. Whoa... by free+space · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This device has it all.. Linux, a real keyboard, half VGA resolution and WiFi.
    Also, unlike the Nokia communicator series, it has a touch screen ( useful for VNC, among other things).
    I haven't been this interested in a PDA since the Psion series 5. Cool!

  7. Hmm, qtopia and screen space. by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have they learned that screen real estate is vital on these small displays yet? I can't tell much from the screenshot. The bar along the bottom suggests they haven't. The Linux/qtopia Zaurus I had was absolutely dreadful for wasting the screen. Menus, buttons, status lines, large scrollbars all over the place. Damned near unusable...looks at supplier web site... Nope they haven't fixed it, they're still taking the windows desktop metaphor and trying to squeeze it onto a tiny screen. Well maybe they've improved the keyboard shortcuts.

    The Epoc based Nokia Communicator though does make good use of screen space. It should it came from a company who understood how to make a usable PDA.

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    1. Re:Hmm, qtopia and screen space. by Ed+Avis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      640x240 is not that small. 'High-resolution' CGA two-colour display was 640x200, and Windows up to 3.0 can run in that. For many years the standard PC resolution was 640x480, and if you choose your fonts carefully it's okay to halve the vertical resolution. The Archimedes had a pleasant and reasonably uncramped GUI in 640x256 (using an 8x8 font designed to work with rectangular pixels), and I think the Amiga and other 'home computers' designed to connect to television sets had a similar resolution.

      I think this was in the days before excessive toolbars; the Arc also disposed of menubars and used the middle middle button to pop up a menu, which was a neat way to do things.

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  8. Re:What the hell? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 4, Informative
    Errr...what is a QWERTZ keyboard?

    The German version of QWERTY.

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  9. QWERTZ IS NOT A TYPO by dwayner79 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its German... look at the pics.

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  10. Re:What the hell? by fizzyabbo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Believe it or not, there are keyboard layouts that are designed to be better suited to languages other than English. QWERTZ is the German version, the French use a layout called AZERTY, etc. "The more you know" ... *shooting star*

  11. Love the form-factor by mdielmann · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is the form-factor I've looked forward to most in the phone/PDA market. Easy enough to handle as a phone, and a screen that's wide enough to actually fit 80 characters on. I have some issues with the computer UI, but hopefully someone makes better use of the screen space. I don't need to waste one line of text to show me what else I'm running when I only get half a screen in the first place (I'd prefer a hidden menu-type listing). If I could pick my next cell phone, this is the form factor, if not the actual phone, that I would go for. Sadly, my work supplies Blackberries with their small screen, wide form-factor, and sub-chiclet buttons.

    P.S. Of course, it's also the form-factor that Val Kilmer used in The Saint. :)

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  12. Not in Germany by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 2, Insightful
    This is one way to kill a product real quick!
    This is a German company selling a phone in Germany. I'm not sure that it's a product killer to use a German keyboard layout.
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  13. reminds me of the nokia communicator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This reminds me a lot of the nokia communicator, except its running what will hopefully be a much more hackable OS :) I've always been tempted be one of the newer communicators but EPOC seems a little limiting compared to linux, it was a great OS for running Psion PDAs where the main task was word processing/spreadsheets/games etc but when it comes to networking I always felt epoc fell down a little.

    The only obvious limitation is that the screen resolution is quite low they could do with a few more pixels on the vertical axis. Imagine using VNC on a screen that size, you'll be constantly scrolling.

  14. ROAD has been vaporware for more than 18 months by marcmerlin · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's a cool phone if it existed, which is what I thought in March of 2005, but the phone never appeared, so still hearing about it today makes me warry.
    Check out the way back machine for february 2005 vs today's page
    You'll notice subtle changes, but for something that was announced at least 18 months ago and that still doesn't exist, my patience has eroded somewhat.

  15. The inimitable legacy of Psion by StreetStealth · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The photo reminds me of the best PDA I ever owned. It's been about four years since my Psion Revo (badged as a Diamond Mako) died. I bought a Windows-based PDA following the sad event, but less than two years after that, I stopped using it. I don't use a PDA today. Why doesn't anyone make a good clamshell anymore? Why doesn't anyone make a good mobile OS anymore? The Revo's UI was a study in pure usability, not trying too vainly to be simple (PalmOS) or trying too hard to mimic inappropriate desktop conventions (Windows Mobile). The 'HandyPC' looks promising--but design-wise, it still looks to me like a predecessor to the Revo.

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  16. The Nokia Communicators are Psions by Colin+Smith · · Score: 2, Informative

    Psion recognised that PDAs on their own would be overtaken by PDAs with a phone and connectivity built in. They made a deal with the number 1 phone company, Nokia. The Nokia Communicators are the result of that. They are Psions with phones added on.

    I have a Nokia 9210 and yup, it's an updated Series 5 with colour screen, email, web etc etc etc. ok so it's a brick, but it's a brick that's served me well for years, a brick which will bring my life crashing to a halt when it breaks down. My next phone will be either a Nokia 9500 or a Nokia 9300 as replacement, slightly less brick like but still the Psion tech built in and a fabulous PDA OS and UI.

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