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Microsoft's 'Naughty or Nice' Patent Application

theodp writes "Those of you worried about Microsoft's stance on network neutrality won't find much comfort in the software giant's just-published patent application for systems and methods to facilitate self regulation of social networks through trading and gift exchange, which classify users as good or bad and call for network bandwidth to be reduced for those deemed 'less desirable.'"

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  1. Brilliant! by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 5, Funny

    I see someone's finally figured out how to have an entertaining Slashdot thread.

    If you post a link to the patent instead of an article, you're virtually guaranteeing that no one will read the fucking article, let alone understand it! And just think of the wacky hijinks and hilarity that are bound to ensue from there!

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    1. Re:Brilliant! by AndersOSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not only that but also toss in a red herring about net neutrality - just to fire people up a bit. As far as I can tell the patent application (of which at least I read the claims, BTW) only applies to social networks. If you are on someone elses network I have no problem with them controlling quotas, content, etc.

  2. A terrible idea by damburger · · Score: 5, Funny

    Having the members of a community reduce a persons presence on an website? Slashdotters would never stand for such a thing, surely.

    (PS pls mod me up!)

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  3. Net neutrality ONlY for natural monopolies by interiot · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The only thing net neutrality should ever be applied to are situations where a natual monopoly (last mile companies) or other monopolies exist. eg. Where you have one entity who has the power to degrade another entity's bandwidth simply because the other entity is performing better than them.

    In most other situations, market/social forces will usually make the right result come out.

  4. Took a while... by Macthorpe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...but I did find the part where bandwidth is mentioned as an asset that can be controlled via this system.

    While you can look at it one way and say this is just a logical extension of rewarding 'good' users, the fact that the system can be used to punish 'bad' users and explains nothing about how this definition of 'good' and 'bad' will be determined makes me more concerned for the people using such a service.

    I bloody well wouldn't.

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  5. Confused? by pubjames · · Score: 4, Informative

    What has this to do with net neutrality? They are talking about social networks. I don't see anything about reducing bandwidth in the article. Way to muddy the waters Slashdot editors!

  6. Slashdot infringes by LaughingCoder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here is the first claim of the patent:

    "1. A system that facilitates self-regulation of a social network comprising: a network monitoring component that watches user behavior on the social network; and an asset allocation component that allocates or re-allocates one or more assets among one or more network users based at least in part on whether the user behavior is desirable."

    As I read that, the Slashdot moderation system infringes. The "network monitoring component" is the editors and the moderators. They "watch user behavior on the social network". The "asset allocation component" is the karma, which affects how broadly users' messages get seen. Lastly, "based ... on whether the user behavior is desireable" is obviously a big part of the moderation system (flamebait, troll, are ways to discoiurage undesirable behavior).

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    1. Re:Slashdot infringes by kthejoker · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uhh - if something exists before the patent, it's called "prior art", not infringement.

  7. Re:Ha, bloody ha. by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    if ($comments =~ "linux" || $comments =~ "gnu"){
        $bandwidth--;
    }

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  8. It's a website moderation system. by Deathlizard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I've read from the patent, it sounds like it's some sort of moderation system for a website (social networks. Like myspace and MS's own Live Spaces site). Basically, it rewards productive users of a site while punishing trolls and spammers.

    Although the patent is questionable, (it sounds similar to the Slashdot Karma System to me) it doesn't sound like something that will be used for net neutrality.

  9. AC by just_another_sean · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So how long unitl Anonymous Cowards lose bandwidth on /.?

    For that matter does this mean my karma might buy me more bandwidth?

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  10. Re:Prior Art by Cruise_WD · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And of course there's http://freenetproject.org/ which added with 0.7 darknet mode - a network supposed to be based on an already existing social network, which automatically awards tokens to connections based on their behaviour, which controls their bandwidth and frequency of requests.

    There's so many prior art examples of this it's just silly.

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  11. Prior art. by auroran · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry Microsoft but, Santa, has had prior art on this one for years.

  12. Re:limitation by SCHecklerX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about we just eliminate software and business method patents, and require working models for physical devices within a certain timeframe of issuance of the patent?