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16GB Flash USB Dongle

Derek Dongle writes "This is great — Toshiba plans to bring out a limited edition 16GB USB dongle. What would you do with 16GB in your pocket? Who knows? As the writer of this story says, "It may be one of the occasional cases of: who cares? It's a 16GB USB drive that fits in your pocket and weighs 12 grams!" I'm not quite sure I want to call it a dongle. At 8x2 cm it's not the smallest thing to attach to a keychain. But at 16 GB you could keep a good bit of your life there, provided you aren't working in audio or video. I keep a 1GB stick on my keychain, which is enough for almost anything.

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  1. How about some more *durable* flash drives? by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Speaking of carrying the flash drive on your keychain, how about we see some more DURABALE flash drives for your keychain? So far, the only drive I've seen on the market recently that's worth its salt is the Lexar Jumpdrive Sport (with a strong rubber boot that fits snuggly around it and a strong metal body). But it only goes up to 1 GB.

    Let's face it, most "keychain" drives are flimsy affairs made of plastic, with tops that pop off easily--hardly the kind of thing you want to carry around every day in your pocket (especially if you're active). I wouldn't every want to drop these things, much less think of them going through the wash or getting banged around by my keys.

    How about we see some more durable drives in larger sizes? Hell, I'd be willing to pay a premium for something I could rely on to take a beating.

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    1. Re:How about some more *durable* flash drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I know at least one company (I believe Sandisk) that makes titanium drives. Those seem awfully durable, but I've never used them...

    2. Re:How about some more *durable* flash drives? by rogabean · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about we see some that are reliable in general?

      My 256MB Lexar thumb drive has worked great for the past year of heavy usgae, but my 2 Memorex 1GB both failed after 4 months of usage. I'm currently using a 4GB PNY Attache thumb drive. I will agree it's flimsy and I don't have much hope of it lasting either. Hell I have a 16MB Dell thumb drive that is still working great even after 3 years of heavy use! Yet the larger ones always seem to have a pretty unacceptable failure rate.

      I really can't see needing 16GB's of storage in my pocket when I'm having trouble finding usgae for the 4GB's I currently have. I'd like to see how reliable this 16GB drive is as well before I even think about it. It seems to me the larger the flash drive, the less reliable it is long term. I'm not sure why though, and YMMV.

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    3. Re:How about some more *durable* flash drives? by AnonymousKev · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They were thinking people would rather have 2 pounds of keys attached to the cap on the desk, instead of working with gravity to pull the flash drive outta the USB port.

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    4. Re:How about some more *durable* flash drives? by just_another_sean · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seems like a case of "they don't make them like they used to" to me. The smaller ones you mention, I'm guessing, are early generation models where the company put some thought into the design.

      As the price of flash goes down and competition increases the margins on selling these things get razor thin and suddenly everyone's out to reduce their cost by making cheaper, inferior housing for them and probably making sacrifices on the actual flash itself.

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  2. Losing your keys... by Langfat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just think how frustrated you get when you lose your keys at the moment...now imagine 16gb going missing with them!

  3. Re:But... by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hey if it's enough for the NES, Gameboy, GBA, SNES, Gamegear, Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Original PC, most pocket organizers, wrist watches, VCRs, automated robots, door locks, garage door openers, bank machines, your mother, optical mice, printers, monitors, FAX machines, VoIP phones and smart cards, it's good enough for me.

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  4. Too long by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What would you do with 16GB in your pocket?

    Probably sit on it and break it. 8 cm long? Not short enough to prevent bending it should I sit on something that could act as a lever... like the edge of a subway seat.
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  5. If you keep your life on it by ThatDamnMurphyGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Please, for the children, use TrueCrypt.

  6. Re:Unless it is affordable... by BunnyClaws · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...like maybe $150 at the MOST - i'll stick with buying the small external USB harddrives. Ok so the hard drives are bigger, but they still fit in most of my pockets *and* I get 80 gig.... for easily less than $100.


    I agree why would I want to buy something that only stores 16 gigs for over a $150? Besides what would I store on it, Music? No, I can store more than 16 gigs on my MP3 player. If I need a big portable storage for data I will spend the money on an external USB drive. The 16 gigs is to much for a flash drive right now. It won't be cheap and your better off going with an external USB drive.

    It seems to be overkill for anything I normally would use a flash drive for and to small to carry music on. It's an odd duck.
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  7. There's never enough storage ... by bestinshow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "But at 16gb you could keep a good bit of your life there, provided you aren't working in audio or video. I keep a 1GB stick on my keychain which is enough for almost anything."

    Two years ago it would have been:

    But at 1GB you could keep a good bit of your life there, provided you aren't working in audio or video. I keep a 64MB stick on my keychain which is enough for almost anything.

    Four years ago it would have been:

    But at 64MB you could keep a good bit of your life there, provided you aren't working in audio or video. The convenience would make this a useful investment and allow us to throw the good old floppy away for good.

    In 2010 it'll be:

    But at 512GB you could keep a good bit of your life there. I keep a 32GB stick on my keychain which is enough for almost anything.

    1. Re:There's never enough storage ... by Filik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually I think we could scratch "audio" now that we are at 16Gb. You _can_ keep a good bit of your audio life within 16Gb. 4000 mp3's or 400 recordings/podcasts.

  8. A limited edition? by Klaidas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, it's a *limited edition*?
    Considering "640K shoudl be enough for everyone", we'll be carrying 32GB flashier soon, and the 16GB limited edition won't be anything special :)

  9. got one already, from Apple Computer by bazorg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What would you do with 16GB in your pocket?
    Besides carrying my files in it, I plug in my headphones and listen to music while I'm working out.

  10. Bigger & Bigger, Smaller & Smaller by JPFitting · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When will they learn that this is not what we want. We want things that work, and work for a long time. I am sick of buying things that break after a few years. My grandmother has a vacumn cleaner that has worked for over 20 years. I honestly have yet to find a vacumn cleaner these days that work beyond a few years. I don't care about bigger and better, I care about smarter and tougher. Unless documents become over 5 megabytes a file, I will not spend my money on this. I will spend that same money and a few extra bucks to get a LaCie external hard drive.

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  11. transfer rate? by waffleman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most folks that I know use usb flash drives for backup and sneaker-net transfer. I wonder what the tranfer rate will be on this. Filling a 1G drive right now takes a fair while. If the transfer rates don't go up, having all that extra space doesn't really help you in a practical -I need to get this copy done and catch the bus in 10 minutes- kind of way.

  12. Re:Yeah but... by VolciMaster · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So you're saying large USB dongles promote piracy?

    No more than do external hard drives, or any other portable media.

    The potential of bad uses shouldn't preclude any good uses.

  13. Re:Do you even own one? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You already have a post above yours from someone that has owned several and generally had problems.

    I would expect it to be a lot more durable than a DVD or CD - these things cost a lot more! A DVD blank is under $1. There are 16GB thumb drives but they cost $750. I think the 4GB drives are around $100, which is about 100x the cost per GB. I expect the more expensive device to be a lot more durable.

    The usage is a lot different too, not too many people tried carrying optical discs in their pockets, but that fits the thumb drive.

  14. Re:Yeah but... by PhilipMckrack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not if you own 10 or so disney/pixar movies and you have put them on the dongle to save space/wear and tear on the disks.

  15. Re:But... by CrazedWalrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, you bring up a good point with this flash stick. Check out the numbers:

    Memory Size 64GB
    Write Speed 1 MB/s

    If these things are gonna be larger and larger, they're really gonna have to work on the speed. The stick you point out would need to be partitioned and used in an LVM-like fashion (add partitions as you need space), simply because formatting it would take almost 18 hours.

    Granted -- after initial formatting, you wouldn't need to write 64GB all at once to the stick, but even for "smaller" items (DVD-quality movies, large quantities of music, etc), you're still talking a little over an hour.

    Capacity is wonderful -- if it's actually practical to use.

  16. Re:Yeah but... by Luxifer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My boss just looked over my shoulder and said 16 gig! that's two movies!! How much are they?

    It's like giving BB guns to kids.. you know they're gonna get themselves in trouble.

  17. Re:Yeah but... by AnyoneEB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your boss needs to learn about DivX/XviD. 16GB is more like 23 movies. (Assuming 700MB/movie.)

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  18. Re:Yeah but... by winnabago · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It is if you are in the US. Ever hear of the DMCA?

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