Slashdot Mirror
Edgy Eft Knot 2 Released
Klaidas writes "The Ubuntu project has released a second Knot CD — an alpha version of Edgy Eft. Notable new features include a new 2.6.17 kernel, Gnome 2.16 beta 2, Firefox 2.0b1, OpenOffice.org 2.0.3 and much more. It is availible for download on Ubuntu's image server. The final stable version is still slated for release in October 2006."
"Nazi D"? Godwin'd before it even started.
Its not supposed to tell you anything.
Its a code-name. Its the devs having a little fun. The official name will be "Ubuntu 6.10". Think of it like "Windows Longhorn". Longhorn was the code-name. Does Longhorn tell you anything?
Hoary Hedgehog was the worst by far. I actually kind of liked Breezy Badger, and Dapper Drake exudes coolness.
Yeah. Edgy Eft. That's a step backward. You could call it 6.10 instead if you like, and that would tell you the year and the month it was (or is going to be) released. But really, what does "Vista" tell you about what you're downloading? Even 2.6.17 doesn't help much - just that it's somehow better than 2.6.16, and that's if you're familiar with the version numbers. You'd really need to read the changelog to find out, so it's still not much better than "Vista."
I got my Linux laptop at System76.
":s/downloading/buying" please. I wouldn't want to be seen as advocating piracy or anything, especially not on Slashdot. :D
I got my Linux laptop at System76.
Today is the 2nd of September.
... to beta ... to release. Isn't that a bit optimistic? Particularly for a release that is developer driven and packed with candy.
Edgy Eft is scheduled for release "in October 2006".
That's about 60 days maximum to go from a 2nd alpha
Well, feature freeze is in 5 days, so the only things coming through the pipeline in those two months are bugfixes/security patches.
And even if it's not good enough, they can always fall back on "It's edgy eft! What are you complaining about?"
As a general FYI, Edgy Final should be out on the 26th of October, barring disaster or pushbacks.
A knot is the collective noun for newts (an eft is a young newt).
"Progress comes from the intelligent use of experience."
Isn't page rank on distrowatch based on clicks to the various distros pages on that site, rather than what distro you're actually using?
...yeah, so what it actually means is that, because it's well known and at the top of the list, Ubuntu is usually the first page clicked. This records one hit, and then no other hits are recorded for that IP for the rest of the day.
"The Page Hit Ranking statistics have attracted plenty of attention and feedback. Originally, each distribution-specific page was pure HTML with a third-party counter at the bottom to monitor interest of visitors. Later the pages were transformed into plain text files with PHP generating all the HTML code, but the original counter remained unchanged. In May 2004 the site switched from publicly viewable third-party counters to internal counters. This was prompted by a continuous abuse of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals who had confused DistroWatch with a voting station. The counters are no longer displayed on the individual distributions pages, but all visits (on the main site, as well as on mirrors) are logged. Only one hit per IP address per day is counted."
So it doesn't really say whether it is the most commonly used distribution, merely that it gets the most clicks to its page within distrowatch.
Well, at least you actually know what 'eft' means, but for non-native English speakers (like me), Ubuntu codenames are a nightmare. They're hard to pronounce and hard to remember. I've had to look every frikin' fancy codename up in the dictionary, and then I was disappointed to know what they mean.
They should use more common words ('longhorn' is not too bad). It's like I release a program and I call it 'El Guepardo Guarrete". Would you remember that name?
$ whoami
It tells me it'll take a long time to arrive, and likes to blow its own horn.
While the whole world seems to be very impressed with Ubuntu and its derivatives, I am still to be impressed after having tried it for about three weeks. I will however give credit where it is due. For one, package management seems to be very much improved.
What still bothers me is the fact that in Ubuntu's GNOME file selector interface, I cannot simply paste a URL and have the program open the referenced document. It is also incredibly ugly for me...why? In KDE, this is possible but the fonts and general look are very ugly and are already starting to look ancient.
Multimedia on the web is still a big hassle. Even for sites that offer RealPlayer streams, GNOME's RealPlayer, even if installed cannot grab the stream by default!
The help system is still very wanting. Some have even told me it does not exist. Assumptions are made that everyone can go online and get the neccessary help. But what happens when you are on the road with no internet connection? Windows beat Linux on this.
Before I get modded down for what some will call trolls, I will stop here but I agree that Ubuntu and Linux still have a long long way to impress folks like me.
I agree, for a single user, "sudo" is kind of useless. However, if you have a large number of users, sudo is a godsend.
In the standard Linux/Unix setup, you have a lot of users with minimal control of the system, and one "superuser" (root) who can do anything. This all-or-nothing setup is inherently risky, and a bit outdated.
With sudo, a good sysadmin can use the "sudoers" file and select which users can do what. They can change this quickly and easily, and make groups and so on sans hassle. Users cannot, for security reasons, be given the root password. They can, however, just be asked to re-enter their own password to verify that it is in fact them.
In short, sudo is a masterful idea. Also, it allows for some rather funny cartoons.
What Ubuntu lacks is a good 64bit version./ 2006-April/000064.html But it is no longer included. The reason? Ubuntu developers are waiting on Debian to develop it.
One of the advantages we are told of Ubuntu is that we don't have to wait on the long Debian development cycle. While that sounds good to the average i386 Ubuntu user. The amd64 Ubuntu user still has to wait on Debian. The reason I say this? In one word Multiarch.
Multiarch was supposed to make it into Edgy. It was mentioned in the announcement by Mr Shuttleworth
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce
Its like 64bit users are second class citizens. No multiarch while distro's like SuSE, Fedora, Gento and others are already multiarch. No Wine, a 64bit firefox where plugins dont work, and other 32bit programs that must be manually added along with their lib's.
All the while eye candy is added to the 32bit version. If it wasn't for the community and people there I would have left long ago. Its sad that people with 64bit systems are told to install the 32bit version because things are missing.
I trust Microsoft as far as I could comfortably spit a dead rat
My Gentoo-using friends assure me that as soon as they finish compiling the new list of top distros, Gentoo will be #1 again.
The official releases are also numbered by date (Year.Month) so you could refer to Breezy Bagder as 5.10 (October 2005) and Dapper Drake as 6.06 (June 2006). I really don't see the big deal, if the name is hard to remember/prounce, a pair of numbers should be okay.
b ution)
From Wiki:
4.10 October 20, 2004[10] Warty Warthog
5.04 April 8, 2005 Hoary Hedgehog
5.10 October 13, 2005 Breezy Badger
6.06 June 1, 2006[11] Dapper Drake
6.10 October 26, 2006 Edgy Eft
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(Linux_distri
"Guepardo" is cheetah, "guarrete" is from "guarro", which would be "filthy" or "obscene".