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Handicapping the 6th Generation iPod

An anonymous reader writes "It's that time of the year again, when Apple rumors bloom with the fall foliage and the press is inundated with hype and wishful thinking. MP3 Newswire has a reasonably sober article addressing 17 of those rumors, even giving odds on the validity of each. From the article: 'It is the peripheral manufacturers that now have a heavy sway on what features the iPod will add to its 6th generation. The peripheral market has done more to cement Apple's proprietary technology as a standard than Apple itself, adding to the iPod's dominance. Mr. Jobs will not upset that balance without good reason and Apple's recent deal with Creative to make iPod peripherals shows he wants to feed it further. But the iPod needs something new to keep it fresh and ahead of the competition.'"

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  1. Apple is (mostly) on our side here by QuantumFTL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think Apple's priorities here are fairly close to the average consumers (especially those who support copyright even if they dislike restrictive DRM). I trust Steve Jobs' business intuition enough that I don't believe the next generation iPod will be crippled, etc. Who knows what features apple has coming? It could be a new look, a new feel, maybe lighter and brighter? To be honest, I don't know what else I want out of an MP3 player, except easier booting of linux on the damn thing, for whatever reason I'd want that..

    1. Re:Apple is (mostly) on our side here by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful
      To be honest, I don't know what else I want out of an MP3 player, except easier booting of linux on the damn thing, for whatever reason I'd want that..
      I think that's Apple's problem right there. MP3 playing, in itself, is practically a free add-on for any device with a bit of storage space and a display. Much simpler than designing a good cell phone, I'd argue. I recently noticed an ad for a GPS device. After describing all the GPS functions, they casually mentioned that it is also an mp3 player. I can't see why every cellphone made in the near future would not have a good mp3 player in it. 1 GB flash retails for $25 now, and the power required to power headphones isn't much.
    2. Re:Apple is (mostly) on our side here by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No no no! Hands off my iPod.

      You're describing a handheld computer -- a little Newton or Palm Pilot or something. I'd love to see one from Apple, but I wouldn't like to see the iPod turned into one.

      Apple has been very good about resisting feature creep in the iPod.

  2. Only one thing by NexFlamma · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is only one thing that could actively cripple the iPod, and that is DRM.

    Apple's machine has an insurmountable mindshare lead on the competition. They have reached the point where their product name is synonymous with it's purpose. Tell 50 people that you're going to the store to buy a DAP and they'll have no idea what you're talking about, but if you tell them you're going to buy an iPod, they'll smile and tell you all about how they think iPod's are the bee's knees.

    However, if Apple falls into the trap of DRMing the iPod/iTunes interface to the point where it becomes too difficult for the average person to use quickly and efficiently (read: anything that takes more than 30 seconds will lose the average person's attention span), just to appease the music conglomerates, people will very quickly lose interest.

    Luckily for Apple, they're smart enough to know this, and the powers that be in the recording industry are quickly realizing that they need Apple more than Apple needs them.

  3. Re:it needs a phone by NexFlamma · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Correction: Apple sabotaged Motorola's ability to be the one profitting from that phone.

    Eventually you'll see your iPhone, but that time will not be until Apple is the only force behind it.

  4. Re:Well by NexFlamma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As much as I'm going to be burned alive for saying this, the reality is that no one outside of the Slashdot/IT/geek-cred camp cares (or even knows) about OGG support. You could do a poll of 100 people anywhere on the planet and maybe 1 or 2 of them would know what OGG is, and of those 1 or 2, I'd be amazed if they would request it on a DAP.

    People know what an MP3 is, and talking about OGG and AAC and Apple Lossless just confuses them. Confusion leads to aversion. Aversion leads to fewer sales for Apple. Hence, you're going to have to get by without your OGG supporting iPod.

  5. Re:Well, the article suggests that by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Maybe they should use a glass display. What do you mean you don't fancy having a fragile piece of glass in your pocket.

    There are extremely tough glasses, eg as used on quality watches.

  6. Re:Well by klang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And yet, every time speculation on the next generation iPod starts, people ask for:

    - ogg (Face it, it's the BetaMax of this decade. Cross encode to mp3 and get over it.)
    - replacable battery (plastic latch => worse design. Battery packs are available for those who need it)
    - FM radio (can be bought as an extention => extra sales to Apple + lower unit cost)
    - WiFi (which can not replace a wired connection => extra cost for Apple)
    - BlueTooth (headsets are not universally accepted yet => unknown by Joe Sixpack => no benefits for Apple)
    - CF, SD card bay (ext. for camera available. oh, to transfer music? get real.)

    A new one:
    - IM integration (I am listening to music in my world => do not disturb)

  7. Re:Well by NexFlamma · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Correction: Those are things that we ask for.

    You're falling into the trap of assuming that we are the average consumer group, when in reality, the average iPod consumer is the 14 year old kid whose parents bought him or her and iPod for a birthday present to keep the kid from bitching about how all of his friends have one, but they don't.

    Do you think that a kid who believes 50 Cent to be the voice of his generation is going to have any idea about open formats and removable memory/battery benefits?

    Just because a group happens to be VERY vocal about their desires, they are not necessarily the majority, or even the most desired demographic.

  8. Re:it needs a phone by soft_guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Motorola has always made extremely unstable phones. It's no surprise that that one was buggy too.

    No one knows whether the ROKR is buggy or not because when people heard "holds 100 songs", no one bought one to find out whether it was buggy.

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  9. Re:What I'd like to see... by moggie_xev · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A2DP
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A2DP

    The quality is good way above 8KHz. They are the best wireless headphones I have used ( my wired set are grado 60s )