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Vaporizing Garbage to Create Electricity

CaroKann writes "Geoplasma is planning to build a power plant in St. Lucie County, Florida that will generate electricity by vaporizing landfill trash and sewage treatment plant sludge with plasma arcs. It will be the first plant of its kind in the USA and the largest in the world. The power plant is expected to destroy 3000 tons of garbage, generating about 120 megawatts of electricity per day. The plant will also supply steam to a nearby Tropicana juice plant. The landfill is expected to be depleted in about 18 years. In addition, up to 600 tons of melted, hardened sludge will be produced each day and will be sold for road construction."

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  1. Mr. Fusion! by Helmholtz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Glad ol' Doc Brown had the right idea .. now when do I get one to stick ontop of the trunk of my time travelling Delorean?

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    1. Re:Mr. Fusion! by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

      Glad ol' Doc Brown had the right idea .. now when do I get one to stick ontop of the trunk of my time travelling Delorean?

      When you fix that damned flux capacitor.

    2. Re:Mr. Fusion! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, but what if you were to push it with something like a train? Something to think about.

    3. Re:Mr. Fusion! by nuttzy · · Score: 5, Funny
      The landfill is expected to be depleted in about 18 years.
      Once again, using up all of natural resources!
  2. Whence this vapor? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1, Funny

    How will this vaporized garbage be disposed of? If it's just dumped into the atmosphere, won't it just contribute to the global warming problem or smog or make cancer rates skyrocket?

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    1. Re:Whence this vapor? by Millenniumman · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Tropicana, made from pure garbage."

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    2. Re:Whence this vapor? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Funny

      A plant which collects CO2 and uses it for something useful? It'll never catch on...

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  3. How many AOL CD's? by phatvw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me try to brush up on my yank-math...

    3000 tons = 6,000,000 pounds
    120,megawatts = 120,000,000 watts
    A CDROM weighs 1/2 oz.

    So you'd need approx 96 AOL CDs per hour to run a 60W lightbulb. I think I have just enough of those to get me through the end of the year...

    1. Re:How many AOL CD's? by no1nose · · Score: 2, Funny

      Awesome, fom now on, I want all of my relative comparasions in AOL CDs. No more Libraries of Congress (i.e. this houses's square footage = n AOL CDs, or this Toyata Yaris burns n AOL CDs per kilometer)

    2. Re:How many AOL CD's? by GungaDan · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Using 'plasma arcs' to 'vaporize' garbage sounds vaguely dangerous."

      It's perfectly safe, provided you never cross the streams.

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    3. Re:How many AOL CD's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Using "plasma arcs" to "vaporize" garbage sounds vaguely dangerous.

      And having a furnace in your house is not?

    4. Re:How many AOL CD's? by Nutcase · · Score: 5, Funny

      It would be bad.

    5. Re:How many AOL CD's? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Funny

      If your neighbor complains too much, you've got an ideal device to dispose of the body :-).

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    6. Re:How many AOL CD's? by HotmanParisHiltonKam · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. Define bad.

      Try to imagine every molecule in your body being slashdotted instantaneously...

  4. Downsides by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Okay, who is the shit-head who threw away a barrel of sodium!"

  5. Downside #26 by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    There goes our last chance to find the Apollo 11 master tape.

  6. Orange Juice? by Skudd · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sorry, but I highly doubt I'll be consuming any more Tropicana products if they're going to be made from steam of vaporized landfill waste... There's just something unsettling about that.

  7. Re:Megawatts per day by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Funny

    What's obvious is that the writer didn't have a technical understanding.

    Wow, I've never seen that happen. I mean, writers always completely understand the technology they are writing about. I think this is the first time I've ever read an article where the writer didn't understand what he was writing about.

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  8. Re:That's complete folly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Just don't use the 'smelloscope' on it.

  9. Re:Energy / time^2? by tobiasly · · Score: 1, Funny
    120 megawatts per day? So, after about 8 days, it'll be generating a gigawatt? In a year, will it be producing 43.8 gigawatts?

    If only we could harness the fusion potential of common household garbage, everyone knows it easily generates 1.21 gigawatts.

  10. Re:Energy / time^2? by CaffeineJedi · · Score: 5, Funny
    My first guess was that it's probably generating 120 megawatt-hours per day, or what those of us who know physics would call "5 megawatts".

    Um... no. I think they actually meant 120 megawatts. Because you see:
    120 megawatts * 24 hours = 2880 megawatt-hours.
    If the price of a megawatt-hour is about $35 dollars (we'll just use the median value of your estimate), then they are making $100 800 a day .
    Multiply that by 365, and you get: $36 792 000 dollars a year.
    Which means... that if they sell back 2/3 of the energy over the course of 20 years, they will make: $490 560 000 dollars (gross, in today's dollars)

    Just FYI, some of us also "know physics" and can actually use Google calculator to make an estimate ;)
  11. Re: Need more garbage! by SrgtSquee · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's only a matter of time until there's a deficit in garbage since energy will be so accessible. People will scramble to create more waste to power their high-powered goods, and global warming will turn into HotAssPlanet.

  12. Re:Indeed by ozmanjusri · · Score: 4, Funny
    can you conceive of how many cities are going to want one of these plants if it's for real?

    If it's used effectively, a plant like this could clean up whole countries. In anticipation of it's availability, Australia has built a collection site for our most environmentally damaging garbage. Once this rubbish has been fed through a white-hot plasma, our country will be much cleaner, and it's wonderful that we'll finally be benefiting from something which has long been little more than a toxic eyesore.

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  13. Re:That's complete folly! by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah. When it returns in a thousand years, we can just deflect it with another trash ball. Of course the world will be completly clean by then, so we'll have to make more trash in a hurry.

  14. Re: Need more garbage! by Millenniumman · · Score: 2, Funny

    If we have such a surplus in energy, we can offset global warming with global air conditioning.

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  15. Re:Indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, the obvious solution then is to feed the environuts into the incinerator first.

  16. Re:Am I the only one who sees a disconnect here? by drfireman · · Score: 4, Funny

    during the last two years, they will vaporize the plant itself

  17. God, you actually believe that? by shoolz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone knows you use a giant rubber-band slingshot.

  18. This doesn't make any sense. by StarKruzr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why does my nascent understanding of physics and chemistry tell me this must be impossible? How can there be SO much more energy in trash than in this sludge waste product that it can actually power a power plant AND develop megawatts of power?

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    1. Re:This doesn't make any sense. by jZnat · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because E = mc^2 my friend! The current method only uses about 4.24 * 10^-9 % of the available energy.

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  19. Re:Indeed by David+Nabbit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Especially since there's a concerted effort in Michigan to stop the flow of Canadian trash.

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  20. Pave it all by ddt · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's great, because nothing says "environmentally friendly" like spewing out miles of asphalt so that we can continue to pave the planet.

  21. Re:The people of St. Lucie County won't go for it by EvilSS · · Score: 2, Funny

    Am I the only one thinking that this technology could also be used to solve the blue-hair problem? Would renaming the company Soylent Energy be too obvious to them?

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