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Top 10 Digital Cameras on Flickr

zokiii writes "This list represents the top camera makes and models used to create photos uploaded to Flickr. The list is generated automatically by periodically sampling the EXIF data from the stream of recent uploads." This is actually an incredibly simple idea, but a really useful one when considering a new camera to buy. Score three points for scrapers.

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  1. Stats by BWJones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Beautiful use of statistics and just the sort of thing that the Flickr board of directors can take to their marketing meetings. Companies eat this stuff up as it is a real world reflection of specific markets using their products.

    Interestingly, these statistics show that most of these cameras are solidly in the middle "pro-sumer" market and demonstrates that both Canon and Nikon did good when they went after a market that was primed to explode much like the 35mm market did in the late 70s and early 80s. Technology in both cases made it possible to build high quality cameras at affordable prices.

    Of course this means good things for the consumer, but watch out for a new megapixel war much like what we saw with computers and the Mhz war. Of course just like the Mhz war, the MP war is going to be mostly hype as I've seen some damn fine images from 6 or 8 MP cameras that were far above the quality produced by some higher MP count cameras. The secret is going to be the size and quality of the individual imagers on the CCD, the quality of the image management chips (I tend to prefer Canon's DIGIC) and the quality of the lens.

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    1. Re:Stats by capt.Hij · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Beautiful use of statistics and just the sort of thing...

      They do not say if they are reporting the number of cameras by user or if they go by the number of pictures. For example, if they go by picture they are telling us who uploads the most pictures, if they go by user they are telling us how many cameras are used. They do not discuss the methodology.. They also do not provide numbers nor graphs. It is an awful way to communicate statistics.

    2. Re:Stats by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Beautiful use of statistics and just the sort of thing that the Flickr board of directors can take to their marketing meetings.

      In actuality, it is horrible use of statistics. The numbers are little more than a popularity contest, showing the more popular cameras, not necessarily the better cameras. If you want to use a camera that a lot of other people are using, then follow what the numbers show. However, that will not guarantee that you will get a camera that actually meets you needs.

      To the point of your message, accuracy has never stood in the way of marketing in the past, no reason to change that now.

    3. Re:Stats by vsack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is great for targeted advertising towards their user base, but it's not clear that you can make many conclusions about the general market based on this data. After all, the user of Flickr are a self-selecting group. I don't think you'll find as many Canon 1Ds-Mk II cameras on there, as they're a ~$6800 body and the owners of those cameras are more likely to use them professionaly and have dedicated sites for their photos, rather than relying on Flickr to host.

    4. Re:Stats by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They are also doing the (somewhat understandable) mistake of counting the Canon "Rebel XT" and Canon "350D" as two separate models, though the only single difference is the name. Had flickr been popular here in Japan, you'd have found a "Kiss Digital N" on the list as well.

      And it looks a little lazy not to factor in the number of pictures; they have all the data after all.

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  2. Are these Skewed? by amulder · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They mention that stats might be skewed, by the sheer volume of photos uploaded by photo enthusiasts. The implication is that they're simply totalling up all the pictures.

    Wouldn't it be more accurate to generate stats by user? (ie: x% of flickr users have camera Y)

    1. Re:Are these Skewed? by teslar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some users might have more than one camera, or be borrowing other people's cameras so that would be inaccurate too.
      But you could normalise the data instead...

  3. but a really useful one when considering a new cam by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, err...
    It tells you what other people are using. By this logic I should be driving a Ford Mondeo (and using Windows on my PC!)

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  4. digital camers?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    WTF is a "digital camers"

  5. Photos, not users by Lev13than · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Interesting idea, but there is a problem with the methodology. The app samples about 9,600 pictures per day. Since multiple photos from the same user are included, it will skew more heavily towards users who take & store (vs. take & delete) and those who are pro users (since they can upload more). This behaviour is more likely found in someone who fits the 'prosumer' profile, hence the abundance of these type of cameras on the list.
    For version 2 of the stats, it would be really useful to have it ignore multiple camera models from the same user. It would also be neat to see it compare post-processing apps and general camera 'categories' (i.e. cell phone vs. p&s vs. slr).

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  6. spelling police... by Lobster+Quadrille · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How are there 27 comments already and nobody has mentioned a typo in the HEADLINE?

    s/Camers/Cameras

    I'm starting to lose faith in slashdot...

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  7. Useful list? I think not. by wfberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's just a list of which cameras produced the most pictures uploaded to flickr. The article itself points out that it's likely skewed because enthusiasts that spring for expensive cameras are also more likely to spring for premium flickr accounts where they can upload an unlimited number of photos.

    So what does this list tell us?
    The people who spend a lot of money on their 'prosumer' cameras take a lot of pictures. Well, they would have to, otherwise they just wasted that money on their prosumer camera. And they're also more likely to spring for a premium flickr account. Well, they would have to, what with all the crappy pictures they have to take to legitimize buying an expensive camera.
    Even looking at the individual users pictures tells you nothing about the quality of their camera. They might just be really good photographers, or they just throw out 9 out of 10 shots because the camera sucks.

    These statistics are pretty much useless to anyone. They're only useful to flickr itself; they can now dream up new ways of advertising, like show ads for camera accesories based on EXIF info.

    Now, if they had a list of camera models by number of users, that would be more interesting (probably more accurate portrayal of marketshare than the manufacturers themselves give off). Or of models that are used to post the fewest pictures before the users photos suddenly change to another brand (in other words; quickly abandoned crappy models). Models that are used most for dark scenes with/without flash. That sort of thing.

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  8. I expect better from /. by Mycroft_514 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To allow this totally BS use of statistics to actually MEAN something.

    As one other photographer already mentioned part of.

    1. Pro photographers are not going to store info on flicker
    2. Pro photographers are going to be outnumbered by non pros, thus changing which is the best "camera"
    3. It has been proven that a good photograper can take a better photo with a disposible camera than many consumers can with the "best" camera.
    4. Others have noted that some cameras are lumped together, and others have multiple categories by the way the data is sampled.
    5. No ratings of which photos are best are factored intot he sampling.

    Sure, mod me down for this, but it doesn't change the fact that this story is totally BS.

    1. Re:I expect better from /. by rtaylor187 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Relax... This particular information is only about which cameras are being used to take pictures posted on Flickr. It has nothing to do with pro photographers, non-pro photographers, "best" cameras or or "best" photos. Please adjust your expectations.

    2. Re:I expect better from /. by foniksonik · · Score: 2, Insightful

      True they should have stated the obvious... these are the:

      Top Ten Digital Cameras Used by People on Flickr

      aka

      10 most popular digital cameras on Flickr

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  9. Re:Fairly high end cameras by thelost · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The top 4 cameras are sub $1000 cameras. I realize everyone isn't prepared to pay $800 for a camera, but they aren't professional. I would but them in the high end consumer, amateur photographer category, so yeah I would say it's useful. I own a 350D myself. It's my first Digital SLR camera and I am very happy with it. A list like this would have influenced me.

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  10. Re:Quantity versus quality by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes, and web statistics show most people use Internet Explorer so that must be the best Browser.

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  11. Re:Fairly high end cameras by shellbeach · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A list like this would have influenced me.

    Really??? You'd base your choice of an $800+ camera on a list that doesn't give any indication of photo quality or camera usability, but simply indicates the mass volume of pictures taken?
  12. Re:but a really useful one when considering a new by dfghjk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, it would be far better to do more conventional research. I would never consider such a useless statistic.