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FCC Orders Anti-Monopoly Report Destroyed

jagger writes "According to an article on MSNBC a report, written by two economists in the FCC's Media Bureau, showed local ownership of television stations adds almost five and one-half minutes of total news to broadcasts and more than three minutes of 'on-location' news. The conclusion is at odds with FCC arguments made when it voted in 2003 to increase the number of television stations a company could own in a single market. Senior managers at the agency ordered that 'every last piece' of the report be destroyed."

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  1. And? by BoomerSooner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We are surprised by this why?

  2. Memory hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rather frightening that with every passing day, the US is getting closer and closer to Eric Blair's 1948 visions...

    1. Re:Memory hole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not a slip. Eric Blair used "George Orwell" as his pen name, and "1984" was written in 1948.

    2. Re:Memory hole by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And I don't think I'm the first to be taken by irony that Blair was brought to us by . . .Blair.

      KFG

  3. What a surprise by Aexia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Bush administration disregards evidence contradicting their world view.

    1. Re:What a surprise by maynard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who appoints the chairman of the FCC? President Bush. Who sets FCC policy? The FCC chair. Ergo... you are seeing Bush administration policy in action.

    2. Re:What a surprise by lottameez · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, not that I disagree with you about the GP, but Michael Powell didn't become FCC chairman until Bush appointed him. He was appointed to the FCC by Clinton.

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    3. Re:What a surprise by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2, Informative
      ...but Michael Powell didn't become FCC chairman until Bush appointed him. He was appointed to the FCC by Clinton.
      Yeah, good point. Nevertheless, it appears that both presidents liked the man. There's plenty of bad things to say about the Bush administration, but blaming it/him for things like this just cheapens the argument.
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    4. Re:What a surprise by maynard · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's a misrepresentation. First of all, Michael Powell is a Republican. He may have been appointed to a position in the FCC by Clinton in '97, however president Bush appointed him chairman of the FCC immediately after his first inauguration in 2001. As a member of the FCC board during the Clinton administration, Powell would not have had the power to set FCC policy. However, as the Chair under Bush - he certainly did. What we're seeing here is most definitely not Clinton FCC policy.

    5. Re:What a surprise by maynard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, I don't realize that - because it's not factually accurate. Powell, as a member of the GOP, was appointed to the FCC board by Clinton in '97. Bush appointed him Chair to the FCC board in January of 2001. As a board member he was in no position to set or control policy. As the chairman of the FCC, under a president of the same political party, one can reasonably assume Michael Powell enacted policy as set by the Bush administration. These intellectual contortions to avoid that fact is just plain lame. Deal.

    6. Re:What a surprise by GreyPoopon · · Score: 2, Informative
      That's a misrepresentation. First of all, Michael Powell is a Republican. He may have been appointed to a position in the FCC by Clinton in '97, however president Bush appointed him chairman of the FCC immediately after his first inauguration in 2001. As a member of the FCC board during the Clinton administration, Powell would not have had the power to set FCC policy. However, as the Chair under Bush - he certainly did. What we're seeing here is most definitely not Clinton FCC policy.
      I'll admit that I wasn't detailed enough in my post, but although Michael Powell is a Republican, his policy is more Libertarian in nature. I believe he was pro net-neutrality, and he fined Madison River Communications for blocking VoIP. So, it sounds like his policy is a mixed bag for Slashdotters.
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    7. Re:What a surprise by BrynM · · Score: 5, Informative
      Perhaps you didn't realize that the FCC Chairman at that time (Michael Powell) was appointed by President Bill Clinton. Somebody rate the parent comment as flamebait.
      Damn there's a lot of "facts" being thrown around in this thread. From the Wikipedia article on Michael Powell:
      President George W. Bush designated him chairman of the commission on 22 January 2001. (then at the end of the article) Powell resigned as Chairman of the FCC on January 21, 2005.
      He was followed by Kevin Martin. According to his WP entry:
      Martin worked several years for Wiley, Rein & Fielding, "Rated Top Telecommunications Lobbyists" according to an article on their website. The firm represents the Bells as well as Viacom/CBS, Gannett, Belo, Emmis, Gray Television, and Motorola.
      . Thus, the current and most recent former Chairmen of the FCC have been both Bush appointees, Republicans and the current one is a former media company lobbyist.
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    8. Re:What a surprise by megaditto · · Score: 5, Funny

      My point exactly.

      It is all Clinton's and Democrats' fault, since they (Clinton and the Democrats) currently control the White House, the Congress, the Senate, and the Supreme Court. Republicans have no say whatsoever. As you know, Clinton took the funding away from FEMA before Katrina, appointed college dropouts to edit scientific reports on global warming, and even appointed this hack to head FCC.

      Remember that Republicans have no power to subpoena anyone and launch an investigation into anything since they are the minority party, be it

      -Iraq (damn Clinton got us there by getting CIA to lie about WMDs there),
      -9/11 (Monica distracted Clinton from reading 'Bin Laden determined to attack the U.S.' memo in August '01),
      -gas prices (damn Democrats get donations from the oil companies),
      -unemployment or healthcare (ditto),
      -record deficit (damn liberals love their Big-Spending Government),
      -illegal wiretapping (damn Clinton has no respect for the Constitution by spying on his oponents)
      -tax cuts at the time of war (fucking Democrats setting us up for tax hike in the future)
      -letting North Korea develop nukes (that's 9/11 Windows' fault there, not just Clinton's)
      -letting $4,000,000,000 in cash literally disappear after taking over Iraq's Food-for-oil accounts (Democrats paying off their terror buddies for 9/11?)
      -or taking bribes from Abramoff (50 Democrats took bribes vs 1 Republican)
      -election finance reforms (currently the Democrats have 500% more money than the Republicans to spend on elections, somehow)

      Please remember that since Republicans do not have the majority in either House or Senate, they are powerless to bring any laws to vote, hold an oversight hearing, subpoena any witnesses, or launch any investigations.

      This is why we should vote Republican this November to restore checks and balances to our Government.

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    9. Re:What a surprise by maynard · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here is the complete list of commissioners and when they were appointed. Please note each of the appointments past Jan 20th, 2001. Now, who set FCC policy? Was it Democratic commissioners or Republican? You figure it out.

      And quit selecting specific facts out of context in order to misrepresent the obvious. It's both disingenuous and easily refuted.

    10. Re:What a surprise by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The question is who can fire him. That has a much larger effect on the actions of some than who hired them does.

    11. Re:What a surprise by InsaneGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd maybe go with that if he hadn't been so entwined with the whole content protection thought process that previous administration brought into play "DMCA, Sonny Bono act, v-chip, etc" along with the 5 dems that were the author of the DMCA2 (SSSCA/CBDTPA) which he was for as well. I will agree that Martin is not angel as the broadcast flag passed with no votes against it (which means he voted for it).

      Earlier this year in regards to the broadcast flags hearings, 2 dems (Stevens & Inouye) stood up and basically said that "having no broadcast flag is a terrible thing content providers will stop providing, so we have to pass this as soon as possible". Which repub Sununu later said (I'll directly quote it because it is so good):

      "The suggestion is that if we don't do this, it will stifle creativity. Well...we have now an unprecedented wave of creativity and product and content development...new business models, and new methodologies for distributing this content. The history of government mandates is that it always restricts innovation...why would we think that this one special time, we're going to impose a statutory government mandate on technology, and it will actually encourage innovation?"

      The problem I see is everybody tries to pin *everything* on Bush, you trip on a crack and it's his fault, etc. Critize him for the correct things, and you will get people to listen, the witch hunt for trying to tie anything & everything to him is a problem because now people are tuning out because "the sky is falling" has been called and attributed to him too many times. I try to keep a little more of an open mind where I can then actually say "Bush is an ass because of this" and directly point to it, rather than say basically everything is his fault.

    12. Re:What a surprise by maynard · · Score: 4, Informative

      The problem I see is everybody tries to pin *everything* on Bush, you trip on a crack and it's his fault, etc.

      Two points:

      1) Fritz Hollings (D-South Carolina): Proposed the Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act, an onerous and horrific bill had it been passed. IOW: There are many Democrats on the side of media monopolies too.

      2) President Bush is responsible for setting policy, and that includes FCC policy. However, that does not mean that President Bush had anything to do with the decision to destroy this document. In all likelihood, he didn't even know it existed. However, the President is still responsible for what happens under his watch as the policymaker. Boards of directors still hold CEOs accountable for serious mismanagement or criminal conduct by their staff, even if the CEO may not have been directly involved.

    13. Re:What a surprise by Scudsucker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'll admit that I wasn't detailed enough in my post, but although Michael Powell is a Republican, his policy is more Libertarian in nature.

      If he was Libertarian, the FCC wouldn't have gone ape shit over Janet Jackson or fined Howard Stern for reading a transcript of an Oprah show discussing "tossing the salad"...for which she of course was not fined. So he looks more like your typical big business, high horse riding moralist Republican.

  4. Oblig 1984 by da3dAlus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Minitruth has determined this information to be doubleplusungood. Please deposit all copies of this report to the memory hole immediately.

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    1. Re:Oblig 1984 by da3dAlus · · Score: 2

      Attention user #16116678: as you know, all freethought has been banned, and is considered harmful. Your discussion of "mental effort" and "knowing what is good and ungood" has been reported to the Thought Police, who will be at your home shortly.

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  5. FOIA by sdaemon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Can someone get a FOIA suit going fast enough to beat the shredders to those docs?

    The FCC is kinda frightening. It does a lot of good, but it does a lot of harm as well. It's on my top 3 list of government agencies to not piss off.

    1. Re:FOIA by wfberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I want to know what good you think the FCC does?

      * managing the spectrum. Not what goes over the airwaves, but who gets to use them for what purpose. (You don't want your local HAM interfering with TV or emergency services frequencies)
      * regulating the crap out of telcos, preventing much telco rapage (they're doing this less and less, regretably)
      * certifying electronic shit so it doesn't interfere with your other electronic shit

      Those are pretty much the good things. The bad things are

      * trying to be the thought police (nipplegate!)
      * being big and slow and bureaucratic (we want more free-for-all spectrum weeeeh ultrawideband weeeh)
      * failing to regulate industries despite huge whopping monopoly abuse (media ownership, ADSL/net neutrality, etc.)

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    2. Re:FOIA by ResidntGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nah, the DEA's gotta be one of them.

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    3. Re:FOIA by mark3748 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The FCC is completely unneeded in today's society, it wasn't even needed in 1934, and has caused nothing but problems since then.

      The FCC rejected long-distance telephone service competition in 1968, banned Americans from buying their own non-Bell telephones in 1956, dragged its feet in the 1970s when considering whether video telephones would be allowed and did not grant modern cellular telephone licenses until 1981--about four decades after Bell Labs invented the technology. Along the way, the FCC has preserved monopolistic practices that would have otherwise been illegal under antitrust law. All of this has cost Americans billions of dollars.

      After the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which removed some barriers to competition, there is even less of a need for the FCC. Local phone customers don't need to worry about the Bells' monopolistic practices, because they effectively aren't monopolies anymore. Cable customers don't need to worry much about monopolistic practices because of satellite TV. Eventually, fiber connections will transport every kind of data.

      Before 1934, there were conflicts, but the courts were working with the common-law method of creating rules for the new medium. And such would have worked great, except The Radio Act of 1927, followed by the Communications Act of 1934, gave the FCC unlimited power to assign frequencies, approve broadcasters' power levels and revoke licenses on a whim. The FCC already enjoyed the power to regulate telephone lines and eventually would accumulate the authority to regulate cable as well.

      We could abolish the FCC today and not cause any problems whatsoever. What it would mean is returning to bottom-up law instead of top-down, as it is now and has been for the past 80 years or so.

      Not only would it prevent any more economic cost of missed opportunities caused by regulation, it would also save taxpayers over $300 million a year.

      Now this may be too Libertarian and Free-Market for some people to understand, but that's just me. I've been a Libertarian since before I was able to vote, and I've been in IT and Telecomm since I got my first job. I believe in freedom and the free-market. I also believe in accountability in government, ie, allowing the people of the US have a say in what the government does, as well as answer for their actions. since the FCC is unelected, and given near limitless regulatory power, I have an extreme dislike of them.

      now you can see why the "good" in the above post isn't that good, and the bad is, well, not good either.

      * failing to regulate industries despite huge whopping monopoly abuse (media ownership, ADSL/net neutrality, etc.)

      the FCC has no right regulating them anyhow... but thats more of my free-market philosophy.

  6. For the people... how quaint. by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It really aggravates me that decisions keep being made to help a few big companies at the expense of everyone else. It seems obvious that keeping more local control over TV stations is in the viewer's best interest, and yet the decision was made to let these stations get taken over. It seems it's only getting easier and easier for big money to grease the wheels of government.

    The fact that this report was ordered to be destroyed only goes to show that someone's best interests other than the public's are being defended here. How far will this sort of thing go? How much are people going to take before they push back, or are we pretty much screwed to slide down this slope to a place where we have no voice and no control? I sure hope not.

  7. So.. where's the link to these documents! by plasmacutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seriously.. every other redaction or witholding of important perspective/evidence posted to slashdot as a story prompted people to post links of the supposedly stifled documents.

    So.. who has em!.. where's the link people ; ).. don't let me down!

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  8. QUICK! by eno2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    FCC Head: "Can you get me a line to Bill Clinton"?
    FCC Operator: "Bill Clinton? Why do you want to talk to that no good lying sonovabitch with a cunt for a wife and who likes to get blown by fat ugly chicks who look nothing like Ann Coulter"?
    FCC Head: "Because I hear he knows of good paper shredding services. I've got some hot docs here that need to be completely and totally destroyed before they make it out to the public".
    FCC Operator: "Ahhh... all is clear to me now boss. Sure thing sweetie".
    FCC Head: "By the way, can you head up to my office in fifteen? Remember to dress comfortably and don't forget the donkey".
    FCC Operator: "Sure thing boss! I can't wait! Imagine the nerve of that Clinton asshole fucking that fat pig of a woman in the Oval office. At least we Republicans know it's far better to fuck REAL farm animals".
    FCC Head: "See you in fifteen".

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  9. Report and response are online by lostboy2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fascinating.

    The draft report and FCC Chairman Kevin Martin's response to Senator Boxer are linked on the
    FCC's website.

    1. Re:Report and response are online by rabel · · Score: 3, Informative

      Couldn't they print the document directly to .PDF? If not, could they at least clean their scanner and toner drum and maybe even align the pages on the scanner so they come out somewhat straight?

      Is it government policy to author a document using a computer, print it out, then scan it, then convert the scanned image to PDF? I can marginally justify something obstuse like this if we need to capture the signature, but these documents are not signed. Hey, I think I'm the first person to point out a wasteful government policy! Go me!

    2. Re:Report and response are online by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it government policy to author a document using a computer, print it out, then scan it, then convert the scanned image to PDF?

      It should be for redacted documents (see first page). And probably for any text they want to bury by making it unsearchable. Instead some agencies think they can electronically redact by drawing black rectangles atop non-graphical text, as repeatedly reported on slashdot.

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  10. Re:The FCC was right to do so by Zardus · · Score: 3, Funny

    See... I have mod points, but for the life of me I can't find "-1, Retarded" in the available mods....

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  11. So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who says we're surprised? Or even disappointed, strictly speaking, since Bush's job is to keep expectations low.

    Slashdot isn't "Surprises for Nerds". But living down to abyssmal expectations when handling telecomm policy is important news. Especially when the Republican Congress is facing losing reelection in only 7 weeks, on November 7, 2006. It's your chance to surprise them for a change.

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    1. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Moderation -1
          100% Flamebait

      I quote Bush saying it's his job to keep expectations low. I point out that "news" isn't necessarily "surprises". I point out that the news here is Bush living down to low expectations.

      Then I point out that we can do something about it in 7 weeks by voting.

      Which part do the TrollMods mod down as "Flamebait"? Of course it's the part about voting, which scares the hell out of them. All these Republican TrollMods have is power abuse. No surprises, not even disappointing, not really news.

      Take it away from their elected versions Tuesday, November 7.

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    2. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes. They were different from Republicans when they had power before. They're different now, even without power. There's no reason, except baseless Republican apologies, to think they're as bad as Republicans.

      Your .sig says "I want a Social Security safety net. You are free to become a stain on life's floor if you don't.". Social Security was created by President Roosevelt, a Democrat, after his Republican predecessors presided over the creation and beginning of the Great Depression that made its necessity obvious. Gore campaigned in 2000 on keeping it safe, in a "lockbox". Bush took over and started to try to sell it off, while robbing it to fund his $45-65 TRILLION debt. Social Security is just one basic, important system that Democrats can be trusted with, while Republicans will steal it, are stealing it.

      I remember what the country was like before Republicans controlled the government. It was better. Right now, it's bad in a way few would have imagined before. Unless maybe they were Republicans.

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    3. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a difference between "bad" and "worse". That stuff about Democrats taxing and spending is BS, when compared with Republicans. Reagan and Bush Sr/Jr have each spent more than every predecessor combined, with the intervening Clinton lowering spending. Reagan and Bush Sr raised taxes more than everyone else combined. Bush Jr has cheated by not even raising taxes as much as he's spent, creating a $45-65 TRILLION debt, which is even worse. While Clinton paid down the debt more than anyone ever before.

      So since only Bush and Cheney are staring at being executed for treason, and then only hanged, we're faced with a different choice in a couple of months. Do you want to unacceptably bad Republicans, or the acceptably not so great Democrats? The real choice is obvious.

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    4. Re:So? by MightyYar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In this discussion, which is political in nature, I agree with you. But there is abuse in the anti-Bush camp as well. I'll be reading comments on a purely technical article, and some jackass political spammer will somehow weave an anti-Bush message into, like, Ruby on Rails! Then some other rabid anti-Bush nut comes in and mods the spammer up! WTF? It makes the whole moderation system sort of a joke. Presumably the meta-moderation would take care of it in the end, but it doesn't seem to.

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    5. Re:So? by Plaid+Phantom · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Do you want to unacceptably bad Republicans, or the acceptably not so great Democrats?
      If that's the Democrats message, no wonder they lost two elections in a row to Bush. Sorry, but I don't accept not-so-great. I don't accept "better". Show me a good president, not a "better" one. Anyone can be "better". We need "good", and that's all I'm going to accept.
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    6. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the problem is that people have Bush hatred coming out of our ears. Because Rove has got the system figured out to the point where our usual election system for consensus and letting off steam (such as it is) is totally inadequate. In many countries, the level of anger at the government, even reflected in Bush's relatively high (at about 35% "approval") would see the the officials resigning, or even riots in the streets. Especially with such high stakes, like the Iraq War and Osama bin Missing. In that context, keeping discussions on-topic is very difficult, when so many are so preoccupied with matters so much weightier than Ruby on Rails.

      It's not professional, but Slashdot isn't a professional board. It's not even a geek board - it's a nerd board, and nerds are known for socially inappropriate behavior, like blurting out the truth.

      As for metamoderation, it's a joke. I post those rebuttals to moderations so metamod'ers will have more context to judge whether the mod is un/fair. But I don't see any real dampening. It winds up being just a battle of my post frequency karma vs their team of downmod points. That seems to at least allow my free speech to fill the vacuum of their supression. Which seems more American, anyway, or at least familiar to me, a New Yorker.

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    7. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not a Democrat, and that's not their message. Of course their message is "Democrats are great!" You want a good president, you got Clinton. Not great, but good, and better than "not bad". Probably the best since Truman, or maybe Kennedy (Democrats), who were very good or great, depending on what you value.

      Unfortunately, our elections don't let us choose "the good one", just "the better" (or "not the worse"). That's one reason why I often talk about Instant Runoff Voting (IRV), or "proportional voting". And why I often say how the parties (politicspeak for "conspiracies") are the worst defect in our system. Until we can vote in a way where everyone's votes count, not just the winners, we don't really have democracy.

      But we have something that's acceptably not so great, and we can use it to make it better, even good. Saying "they're all the same", when they're not, just none good enough, makes it impossible to use what we've got to get what we want.

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    8. Re:So? by SpectreHiro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You want a good president, you got Clinton. Not great, but good, and better than "not bad". Probably the best since Truman, or maybe Kennedy (Democrats), who were very good or great, depending on what you value.

      The hell you say? He got a blow job!!! That's against god's will. It says so in the Bible... Like, Luke 1:69 or something.

      Will no one think of the children?!

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    9. Re:So? by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And then you go and start dropping Karl Rove's name as well. John Murtha and Barbara Boxer would be proud.

      The truth is that the assault on our sensibilities comes from all sides. The Republican leadership uses the FUD of terrorism to scare us into supporting draconian suspensions of civil rights, while the Democratic leadership uses FUD about everything else to call our attention away from terrorism. Neither side is telling the truth.

      With the GOP having control of the largest political target in the nation (the presidency, of course), the Democrats try to indoctrinate their supporters with the idea that Bush is at fault for everything that goes wrong. We won't get our government back in shape until our politicians are accountable for their actions. As long as they continue not to earn the blame for the bad things they do, and continue to get blamed for the bad things that other people do, things will never improve.

      So instead of blaming Bush for everything every time you get the chance, do some research and put the blame where it's due. The FCC has needed a shakeup for many, many years now (going back before this administration), not just in personnel, but also in philosophy. As long as fingers keep getting pointed at Bush, real change will never happen.

    10. Re:So? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How have Democrats distracted us from terrorism even one tiny bit? If anything, they're too pussy to call bullshit on all the fake terrorism the Republicans create as "reality" for their media manipulation.

      All your crap about how Democrats are somehow pulling my strings, the strings of the media and the government - what are you talking about? Every charge I make against Bush is specific, substantiated, and true. You think Karl Rove is some kind of coatcheck girl at the White House? He's the stringpuller, the election gamer. What kind of insanity compels you to spit the name of John Murtha in response, except your own indoctrination by rightwing talkradio? Because nothing else has the power to make that kind of association. Certainly not anything to do with Murtha.

      Down to the FCC. The current FCC has been shaken up since Bush's administration - very much for the worse. That shakeup by the new administration is exactly how the FCC is run. It's Bush's FCC that's shredding the antimonopoly report we're talking about, because it contradicts the handover Bush's FCC ordered under predictions contrary to the facts in the shredded document.

      Come back with some facts showing that any of what you spewed has any basis in fact. Because all you just threw at the page is just an elaborate "it's not Bush's fault, because there's someone else in the phonebook to blame".

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    11. Re:So? by NoMaster · · Score: 3, Informative
      Your .sig says "I want a Social Security safety net. You are free to become a stain on life's floor if you don't.". Social Security was created by President Roosevelt, a Democrat, after his Republican predecessors presided over the creation and beginning of the Great Depression that made its necessity obvious.
      You missed the bit where the poster said he wasn't an American. SS is not an American invention.

      Government-sponsored disability / unemployment schemes predate Roosevelt by ... well, lots! In the UK, social security arguably dates back to the reform of the Poor Laws in 1834. The first state-sponsored scheme dates back to Germany in 1883, under Otto von Bismark. France introduced one in 1906. The Brits introduced a national contributatory scheme in 1911.

      As you say, Roosevelt introduced SS to the USA in the 1930s as part of his "new Deal" programs - which, initially, only protected unionised industrial workers. When social security really took off was after WWII - mostly as a sop to placate unemployed returned servicemen; you don't really want a few million trained, experienced, and armed militia getting upset with you...

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    12. Re:So? by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Michael Powell was first appointed to the FCC board of commissioners by Clinton, and only later promoted to chair the commission by Bush. Powell continued to serve through 2005, and supported the measure to increase media ownership that's being discussed here. The contradictory report was completed in 2004, and it is likely (though not confirmed in media reports yet) that the actions taken to attempt to destroy the report happened around that time. Powell resigned in 2005 and was replaced as Chairman by Kevin Martin, who, according to Wikipedia (though no source was cited, unfortunately), has taken steps to purge Powell's staff since then.

      It should also be noted that many Republicans were opposed to the media ownership rules, including Trent Lott.

      Any finger-pointing on this issue should probably go toward Powell. Martin is actually much closer to the Bush administration, having worked on his campaign, and the purges indicate that any relationship between Powell's oversight of this report and the Bush administration is tenuous if even existent.

      If you have substantial contradicting information, I'd love to read it.

      BTW - I don't listen to right-wing talk radio. I'm just right-of-center, and have no love for the current administration or the current GOP leadership in Congress. The warrantless wiretapping was the last straw for me, and I'm hoping for some moderation to emerge from the 2008 fiasco. If McCain and Lieberman were to run together, I'd be tempted to help out with the campaign.

      I believe that truth is the most important factor in politics, and I believe that your unwavering finger-pointing at Bush regardless of the issue and regardless of fault harms your efforts to get the blame to stick for the things he has done. It's reminiscent of MoveOn.org taking a position on network neutrality. They took an issue which should have been neutral and made it highly partisan, because they also can't stop pointing the finger (which finger is debatable) at Bush for every bad thing in the dictionary. They harm their own cause, because their vitriol makes it hard for moderates to get at the truth, and therefore scares them away from important issues that would otherwise transcend partisan boundaries.

    13. Re:So? by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the problem is there are no partisan boundaries anymore.

      you have the Remocrats/Dempublicans.. and the cabal that's working for bush..

      Now the cabal working for and with bush is universally reviled by all worldwide with the exception of the most extremely right americans, and they're reviled for reasons which even tribes buried deep in the amazon know about by now.

      as for the DemPublicans...

      there are no substantial differences from republicans and democrats otherwise.

      they both prop up their own equally manipulative sets of moneyed interests, they both support the DMCA, the both vote for war against nations when those nations refuse to give us what resources we want when we want them, they both support the corporate undermining of national sovreignty (and through that consumer and worker rights) through GATT treaties and the WTO, and they both support the current joke that is the american media, because a media with substantive reporting is the enemy to all political beltway insiders.

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  12. Re:The FCC was right to do so by Kesch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is not the "free market" vs "regulation" problem you are framing it as. Although I generally lean towards libertarian, I do not agree with your argument in this case. The study in question showed that PRIVATE ownership of stations by local networks provided a better level of news coverage as opposed to PRIVATE ownership of stations by huge media corporations. The only regulation in question here is an attempt to loosen anti-monopoly measures dictating how many stations a media corp can own. The study in question supposedly provides hard evidence showing that there is no benefit to consumers in such an action.
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  13. they're so cute when they get worked up by mcmonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Boxer's office said if she does not receive adequate answers to her questions, she will push for an investigation by the FCC inspector general.

    Isn't she precious. Gonna push for an investigation. How cute.

    Listen, hon, the horse left that barn behind a long time ago. Congress has made itself pretty much irrelevant. President breaks the law? They just pass a new law making whatever it was legal. They threaten to actually do their jobs and enforce some oversight? President claims he can do whatever he wants anyway. (When there was some talk about the USA PATRIOT act not getting renewed, Bush just came right out and said he could do whatever he wanted anyway as C and C. Rather than challenge that assertion, they just passed the law.)

    And they gave away the store long ago with these agencies. Agencies like the FCC enact and enforce regulations without all that pesky oversight and due process they have to deal with down in congress. Better yet, agency heads don't have to worry about elections. Regulations are so much easier than laws.

    What are they gonna do about it now? What did they do when all those energy executives lied to them? What did they do when all those baseball players lied to them? Mrs. Boxer and her colleagues are gonna do whatever they think they need to do to get reelected. Nothing more. They're certainly not going to do anything to anyone at the FCC.

    1. Re:they're so cute when they get worked up by Bassman59 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Listen, hon, the horse left that barn behind a long time ago. Congress has made itself pretty much irrelevant.

      Recall that the Republican-controlled Senate and House made itself irrelevant under a Republican president--so blame the Republicans. Contrast that to how the Republican Senate and House acted during the Clinton adminstration.

  14. Jamming With the FCC by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The FCC's job is entirely based on the need for a central registry for radio broadcasters, so sufficiently powerful signals don't interfere with each other. Along the way that leverage in denying access to the "public airwaves" turned into government control of broadcasters. Along that way the requirements to "serve the public good" were dropped. These days in favor of "protecting the propaganda of the government".

    New phased array tech lets multiple transmitters share a frequency, but are distinguished by their spatial separation. So the FCC's central mission is coming to an end. A lot of their worst moves to sell off any public benefit and protection, and to merely regulate content on "obscenity" (or other culture war buzzwords) is mere desperate grabs for power.

    I hope that phased array stations arrive well before the FCC can help the corporate broadcast cartel lock out entry to the media sphere. If we can make it past that dropping sword, we might be fairly home free.

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  15. Re:The FCC was right to do so by kilfarsnar · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "...any wise observer of history will be aware that market forces will recognize this value and favor production of these types of information accordingly."

    If you were not serious, please disregard the rest of this response. But that's just hilarious! Why don't you compare the ratings of Nova and American Idol and see if your theory holds up? Wise observers of history would more likely note that unregulated free markets tend towards monopoly and exploitation.

    You note that news, science, and educational programming in general are of immense value, and yet you call the privileging of them "arbitrary". Market forces do not recognize value; they recognize profit. Better products certainly do not always win in the marketplace. Really, the "free market" does not exist outside of government regulation. Without governments and the rules, regulatons and structure they bring, all we have is a primitive barter system. That is the only true free market; trading milk for eggs.

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  16. Who controls the present controls the past. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It exists!" [Winston Smith] cried.

    "No," said O'Brien.

    He stepped across the room. There was a memory hole in the opposite wall. O'Brien lifted the grating. Unseen, the frail slip of paper was whirling away on the current of warm air; it was vanishing in a flash of flame. O'Brien turned away from the wall.

    "Ashes," he said. "Not even identifiable ashes. Dust. It does not exist. It never existed."

    "But it did exist! It does exist! It exists in memory. I remember it. You remember it."

    "I do not remember it," said O'Brien.

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  17. Duh, duh, duh.... by Hap76 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you want something to go away, you don't jump up and down saying, "Burn this immediately! IMMEDIATELY!", because then everyone knows that this is important and one of your employees/minions/servants might save it anyway, either because you're evil and they want to screw you or because they think that you're shortsighted enough to want it gone now and back later and so they want to save you from yourself. Duh.

    Of course, this is an argument for DRM - if this report had been DRMd (competently), there would probably be very few people with both the knowledge of the report and with the ability to circumvent the DRM so that if someone had wanted it gone, it likely would have been.

    That's a good thing, right? [crickets chirping]

  18. Re:Hypocrisy wrt Government Interference by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    One issue is speech, another is abuse .

    can you see the difference?

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  19. In proper Newspeak: by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Minitrue report "Local Media Ownership" doubleplusungood, rectify fullwise 2006.09.14: memoryhole.

    RS

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  20. Re:let's get this out of the way: by Analogy+Man · · Score: 2

    Surely a populace informed by a free press with a diversity of editorial leadership will provide aid and comfort to the enemy!

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  21. Re:The FCC was right to do so by Floody · · Score: 4, Insightful
    An optimally efficient economy maximizes wealth creation and benefits all citizens to a much greater extent than having a group of bureaucrats decide which types of data are more important than others, and regulating commerce along those lines. The latter arrangement can only lead the type of social planning that ruined so many Eastern European economies.
    See, this is where libertarianism drifts away from rationality. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for as much laissez faire as possible, especially when it comes to Big Brother staying out of people's private lives (excepting depriving someone else of their freedoms, including coercion and fraud). But this libertarian nonsense about the perfection of a Free Market economy is just silly.

    Libertarians are quick to point out that monopolies are almost always government mandated. Well, duh. Of course they are. It's no accident either.

    When corporations reach a considerable size, it only makes sense that the best way to ensure continued growth and desired stock performance is to manipulate some (or all) of public policy. Sure, great product ought to be enough, but what if something goes wrong? What if a competitor suddenly pulls the rug out from underneath you? Why not hedge your bets? Sound business planning really; a little insurance to cover those "unforseens."

    To those at the very top of the market ladder (corporations, not people), fascism is a utopia, as long as its fascism they are in control of (or at least benefit from). It's perfect; reduces corporate risk to practically nothing. Fortunately, there are other pressures which, so far, in the US, have kept it relatively under control. But to many it seems like its slipping every day.

    It's a new century. We don't need a nanny state to keep an eye on things.


    See, that's just the thing. You're afraid of Big Brother being a little too big and a little too controlling. What you have to understand is the megacorps want to be the nanny state, not so they can have some sort of Comic Book Evil totalitarian control over you, but to make sure you only buy products from them or their partners.
  22. Who owns that report by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2

    That report was paid for with taxpayer money, which means they have no right to destroy it. Where is the ACLU the one time I might actually want them?

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  23. Why does this administration hate research? by Serveert · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From global warming and EPA report cutting.. To fmr Treasury Paul O'Neil, who after showing that income taxes would need to double in order to support the aging baby boomers, was rewarded by the report being axed before he was fire err before he resigned.

    This has got to be the most hand over the eyes administration in history. History books will not be kind. Especially when taxes must be raised in the future to cover the huge US debt or when there is only one entity controling all media. At some people it will be obvious what a terrible administration this is, right now it's not so clear.

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  24. That's silly... (joke) by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's silly, we all know that few owners would help local t.v. coverage. Just like having fewer political parties helps the people. Imagine if we had one person own all the news networks. That would be like having one political party, and we all know how easy it is to vote when we have no choices. We just listen to what they say and blindly believe everything they say.

  25. Here's the report by metallel · · Score: 3, Informative
  26. Re:Hypocrisy wrt Government Interference by zCyl · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I love how the average /.er is against the FCC when they're censoring Howard Stern or Janet Jackson, but in favor of their cracking down on "big business".

    I think most Slashdotters believe in freedom and diversity of information. When the government censors culture, this restricts the freedom and diversity of information. When a small handful of big businesses own all the major media outlets, this also restricts the freedom and diversity of information.
  27. Re:The FCC was right to do so by mrbooze · · Score: 3, Funny
    To be sure, such categores of information as "news", "science", and "educational programming" are of immense, value, but any wise observer of history will be aware that market forces will recognize this value and favor production of these types of information accordingly.

    Seriously, what color is the sky on your planet?
  28. HOW TO CONTACT THE FCC by bratwiz · · Score: 2, Informative

    (From their website: http://www.fcc.gov/contacts.html)

    How to Contact the FCC

    To Contact the Commissioners via E-mail

    Chairman Kevin J. Martin: KJMWEB@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Michael J. Copps: Michael.Copps@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: Jonathan.Adelstein@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Deborah Taylor Tate: dtaylortateweb@fcc.gov
    Commissioner Robert McDowell: Robert.McDowell@fcc.gov

    United States Postal Service First-Class Mail, Express Mail & Priority Mail

    Federal Communications Commission
    445 12th Street, SW
    Washington, DC 20554

  29. Federal Corrupt Commision by toriver · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Big industry can buy politicans who decide, or those that enforce - or both!

    Welcome to the United States of Clear Channel and News Corp.