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Cisco VoIP Ditched for Open-Source Asterisk

An anonymous reader writes "Sam Houston State University (SHSU) is moving 6,000 users off a Cisco VoIP platform to an open-source VoIP network based on Asterisk. One big driver, of course, is cost. From the article: 'We thought that it will be more cost effective in the long run to go with an open source solution, because of the massive amounts of licensing fees required to keep the Cisco CallManager network up and running,' says Aaron Daniel, senior voice analyst at SHSU."

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  1. Asterisk versus CCM features by Alistair+Cunningham · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:

    "While Asterisk and the SIP protocol lack some of the more extensive features on the Cisco CallManager..."

    This may be true for vanilla Asterisk, but there is an extensive community adding a wide range of additional features and services to Asterisk. For example, <plug>our Enswitch product</plug> provides a layer of billing and commercial services on top of Asterisk and SIP Express Router. Having work extensively with both Asterisk and CCM, I would claim that with Asterisk plus all the applications that work with it already surpasses the features of CCM, and Asterisk has the momentum behind it. Over the next few years, CCM will fall further behind, and before long Asterisk will be the dominant telephony platform in the same way Apache is the dominant web server platform now.

  2. Unversites are overrated. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is not an attempt to troll or anything. But this doesn't seem like to me as a major blow to Cisco. Universities and Corporate and Government user are a much larger sectors at large compared to universities. And dont tell the College recruiters this the rest of the world doesn't follow what universities do. for the following reasons.

    Universities have cheap skilled labor. A slew of talented kids/young adults who are willing towork for free or near minimum wage, but when they leave to the real world they will be demanding $35,000 and up a year for the same job. This is the reason why many Open Source projects work and save money in Universities but when a Corporation gets it, it becomes a money pot. Because for a company it is cheaper to call Cisco and pay them $1000 for a fix to their problems then having a team of 10 people at your company taking a day to fix the problem because they do not have the answer sitting right in front of them or able to contact the engineer who created it. vs. a University where this 10 people 8 bucks an hour are much cheaper then calling Cisco for help.

    Universities are allowed to experiment almost by charter. If something goes wrong this screw all the people who are not getting phone service. You will have wait until we fix the problem, it is not like we are loosing money with the phones down for a couple of hours. Private companies loose money when their communication are done so they want Cisco to come and fix it right away and they better know what they are doing. Being an Education facility it is allowed to experiment in different products while Companies find better value in using what they know works.

    Liberal University vs. Conservative Corporations, basically means if it not exactly what we want we keep on trying and trying until we get it right (perhaps making it worse in the process) or If it does what we need we hold on to it until we find the perfect solution (which guarantees that they are going to use a product they don't like for a long time)

    This is why Open Source is popular in Universities but in Corporate and government use they need to work a little harder to get acceptance.

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  3. Re:Easy there, Cowboy by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "Know" for "no" is a truly boneheaded error, much more so than "then" for "than".

    You forgot a question mark in your post correcting him - that's an even more bonehead error.

    His message was adequately communicated - you don't need to be annoying and correct him. If you were adding clarity to his post, it would be one thing, but you are just nit-picking. Add something to the conversation or go the hell away.

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  4. Re:Why do they price themselves out of the market? by growse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's the support. Company A spends a large amount of money buying (say, Microsoft/Cisco/whatever) and at the same time takes out an expensive support contract. Company B uses FOSS.

    Something goes wrong. Company A gets on the phone, and they have an engineer on-site within the hour, and the problem is fixed within 3 hours. Total cost? Loss of 3 hours business + SLA payouts.

    Company B runs around for a bit trying to figure out what the hell it might have been, before flash-hiring a bunch of software consultants (thing $$$) to try and figure out what the problem is. These consultants probably resort to asking the question as to what went wrong on the FOSS's community forum. Problem eventually gets solved in 3 days. Total cost? Company B goes out of business.

    FOSS is fantastic, but big corporates don't have time for it. They can't afford to have downtime (total significance depends on what business they're in, but in the business I work for, you lose a minute's worth of data, people buy from your competitor) and so buy the only thing on the market that comes with a decent support contract. This just happens to be stuff that's expensive in the first place (Windows etc).

    As has been mentioned earlier, Universities are fine. If their phones/IT goes down, they don't lose money. Business is not like that.

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