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RSS Feed Feed — Ultimate News Portal?
Rod Peterson writes, "I came across SiliconNews.net, a news portal that pulls RSS feeds from many of the top computer enthusiast, gaming, and nerd websites. Obviously, they've included Slashdot! They have an RSS feed of everyone else's RSS feeds, so you always have all the news."
It's an RSS aggregator! Wow! That's so cool and innovative. Oh wait, I just realized it's 2006, not 1997.
...of digg articles?
This sounds like just what the world needs: an easier way to become so indunated with news that you never have time for anything else.
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... has better sources, a more appealing layout and no advertising.
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This is the flavor of the moment, there are a bunch of there floating around. RSS aggregators are all the rage now. I don't see why someone would want a slow site to maintain them when you can just create a folder of LiveBookmarks in Firefox and get all the aggregation you need. For more dedicated aggregation there is Thunderbird and lots of native clients with lots of features.
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I am sure there is a use for these, but this feels like the
Have a look at OriginalSignal same system but Ajaxified as you can just hover over a story to read a summary.
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This is just like popurls.com, only not as good.
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Check my sig, it does the EXACT same thing.
Isn't that the point of syndication though.
I thought that Slashdot was the only website on the interweb tubes.
The site seems to provide too much information in too small of a space. I choose to visit a website based on what I feel like seeing at the moment. While a clear effort is made to categorize articles and news, the site lacks direction and provides little to no new information. What you want is lost in the static. Many of the covered websites will have dupes and when big news happens, I can see that RSS feed being completely filled with the same news.
I think the point is being missed about the value of RSS and what has been accomplished. Websites of this type are no longer necessary because we get to choose our own sources, layout and priority for news. Google's home page service has more value than this RSS feed compilation website.
This feels like a shameless plug or a blatent ad.
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I like using RSS to monitor websites that are infrequently updated. Or as one wag recently said, RSS stands for "Rarely Seen Websites".
When more of these type of programs are available, Slashdot will list them all, and will become an RSS Feed Feed Feed.
You know how when a non-main-page story gets a bunch of comments, it gets 'promoted' to the front page? Maybe if no one comments on this story, it'll get removed.
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There is a point at which information overload takes over. The optimal news portal doesn't include every single story, but just the important ones. That's what makes it so hard to develop the 'ultimate' news portal--there's a bit of an art to it.
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Not interested until somebody figures out a way to unduplicate articles, and where the article is some blog regurgitating some other source, track back to the original source and give you that.
Meh. It's little better than a link aggregator.
What makes it practically unusable is the fact that clicking on a headline doesn't actually take you to the story, it takes you to a siliconnews.net subpage that has the actual link. There are better solutions out there than this.
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I prefer google news
This sounds a lot like something that Drupal has built in, called a news aggregator. You can set the same thing up yourself very easily by installing drupal and enabling that module.
Here's an example of how it can look:
http://911source.org/aggregator
Or you can browse by category:
http://911source.org/aggregator/categories
ZOMG RSS Aggregator!
It's like the future, except now.
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This is startingly irrelevant! Welcome to 1999!
You know, the only way your "news" could be any more oxymoronic is if... shit. It just doesn't get any older than this.
Who has time to go through all that news?
How is this news?
It's news because, by posting a news article on it, kdawson has finally achieved his ultimate goal of causing the universe to implode upon itself in a news paradox.
Without news, there is no headline, without a headline, there can be no RSS feed, without the RSS feed, there can be no RSS Feed about RSS feeds and without a RSS feed about an RSS feed about RSS feeds, there can be no news. As soon as someone reads TFA, it's all over.
Don't you see? We're screwed. Kdawson has will finally win and spread chaos across the face of the entire universe. Thank God people never RTFA. I'm guessing we have another 350-ish comments to go before some moron destroys all of creation by trying to view the information firsthand and make an informed comment. Fools.
Haha, that was terrific.
Not interesting. They get feeds from other sites, wrap ads around the "content" and that's it. Making money on someone else's content is a scam!
http://www.google.com/ig
Add what you want and set it as your homepage, it's linked to your Google account so as long as you're logged in it works from anywhere. There's a very large list of widgets and RSS feeds to choose from, although I'm pretty sure you can add any RSS feed you want.
What exactly is newsworthy about an agregator site? "Planet" sites are nothing new. How is this news?
:-) ) So I get all my news pushed to me, I can read it whenever, and I don't need a 3rd party site to do it. You can do the same with a dozen services or applications.
Personally, I use Akregator, KDE's RSS reader, to pull in just the feeds I want anyway. (Yes, Slashdot is one of them.
Again, what's so interesting here? (And yes, I did glance at the site. I still don't get it.)
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Lots of these RSS aggregators exist...for general search, there's http://www.tagfetch.com/TagFetch.com, and for deal sites, there's http://www.dealtuner.com/DealTuner.com. I guess adaptation of personal RSS readers has been slow?
Very well stated.
Is there an AOL keyword for the website? Maybe a CompuServe one? Can I get this via my local ASCII dial-up BBS over 9600 baud? Shoot me if I am ever this desperate for a technology news source--this thing is like a stack of Hollywood tabloids for sale outside of a Hollywood studio. It is like a tech news website compiler posted to Slashdot. The only use is if you are paranoid that there may be SOMETHING out there that you did not read. How many article submitters have gotten their submissions from this kind of slag site?
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...it's great that Slashdot has one, and it's great that you guys started using em dashes a lot (like in the subject of this very article), but — isn't a valid RDF/RSS or XML character entity. So it shows up literally as "—" in feed readers.
Use the numerical equivalent (—) instead, gracefully degrade it to "--", or simply include it as an unescaped multibyte character (yay UTF-8). But do something, it looks dumb.
just like:
http://tech.originalsignal.com/
http://www.popurls.com/
I love the new tabbed personalized homepage feature Google has added. Now, when I go to Google (which is about 12,324 times a day) I get a quick snap shot of the information I commonly go to from RSS feeds I choose. They also have lots of nice little tools/games you can drag onto your homepage as well.
Now when I want to do what I call "the rounds" and check what's new in the world and on sites I'm interested in, I just look at the links from the various RSS feeds on one tab, middle click on ones I'm interested in, go to the next tab, and do the same. At the end, I have around 1-2 dozen tabs open and whole process only takes about 1-2 minutes and I have all the latest information on the topics I care about. This is what RSS feeds are about. Fast and intuitive access to the data you want, when you want it.
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You just created an infinite loop between the Slashdot front page and theirs. RUN!
They are using Joomla... Oh wait, doesn't it come with a RSS agregator by default ??? ;)
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What makes this any different from Google's Technology feed.....?
Calm down, rss and aggregators didn't catch on until now. How many web-pages has had rss-feeds more than five years? Very few I guess.
http://www.hackermedia.org/ is similar to this, but focuses on hacking radio shows, tv shows, and news. It is updated in the same way, using RSS feeds as both the input, and also the output.
There are plenty of other sites just like this. There's popurls, which lists feeds from user-contributed sites like Slashdot along with more formalized sites like Google and Yahoo News. There's Diggdot.us, for Digg, Slashdot, and del.icio.us. There is Xtreme News, which includes Fark and the BBC. And then there is DiggLicious, which has live views of updates from a couple of obvious sites.
I've been using http://dailyrotation.com/ for quite a while now, and they've had lots of sites for quite a while as well. "Quite a while" in this case seems to be years. Does anyone else have any recollections?
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://dailyrotation. com l yrotation.com/index.shtml
2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20010405211544/www.dai
That looks like a lot to me.
If their links actually went to the original news story instead of a "buffer" page with a link to the full story, it would make life a bit easier. One less click to deal with. None of the news items I've clicked on actually had any pertinent information on them... only a short rewrite of the title it seems.
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The problem with your idea is that it makes sense.
I use http://www.bloglines.com/, and have been for a while now. I pull in stuff from all sorts of differnt sources, into one page. Yep, same thing that you can do with Firefox.
But - I can access Bloglines anywhere, on any machine, and I have access to my already customized list of news feeds and the stuff that I've marked for further reading later, etc. For some reason I keep finding myself needing the ability to access my stuff from multiple machines, so it works great for me. Especially nice since my Mac isn't very portable at the moment, and when my co-host and I set down at the local coffee shop (WiFi access and long island iced teas :-) and start going through news to see what's going to be on the show this week, we can both pull up our list of stuff that we've marked in Bloglines, and discuss it. Very nice.
How many people actually need that sort of functionality? Eh. Not very many, really, since most people only have one machine to deal with (not talking about the /. crowd, people in general :-) where they would read thier RSS feeds anyway. So you're partially right - it's a bit of a business fad. It's got it's uses, but as a couple of sites that do it get popular, there's gonna end up being a whole bunch of sites, then the nitch market gets crowded, and 2/3rds of them just die. The rest will continue to exist for people like me who find a good use for it :-)
(And, yeah, there's a bunch of other ways I could do it, including setting up setup for pulling all the RSS feeds down on my own server, and reading that. I might do that some day, when I have enough spare time. Bleh - got a lack of that.)
Oh heck, and since I'm here and mentioned the show, here's a link - http://www.worldofgamerzone.com/. Only the first three episodes are up at the moment, which puts me 5 episodes behind the broadcasts. Need to find more hours in the day... :-)
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When more of these type of programs are available, Slashdot will list them all, and will become an RSS Feed Feed Feed.
Imagine an RSS feed of those!
one of the million?
Well, I ran across www.vexocide.org some time ago. It's obviously still in a beta stage, but working nicely as an online rss reader
What I don't get about RSS is that it doesn't seem to be any better than, say, just setting up the sites I want to get news from on a bookmark folder in Firefox and middle clicking to open them all in new tabs.
Actually, tabs might be better since you usually get article summaries on most sites, rather than just headlines. And in the end, you probably need a browser to read the stories anyway. AdBlock cleans the page up for you too.
Seriously, why is RSS better? For mobile phones? Do I want to read news on a tiny screen? Maybe if I commuted by public transport, but it's impossible where I live unfortunately.
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I fail to see whats so special about the site? Have a look at http://www.newsonfeeds.com/faq/aggregators
For those of us who understand the Swedish language there's always http://www.ichigo.se/ (it's been around for a couple of years now).
It does the same thing as SiliconNews but along with feeds from Slashdot/OSNews/Digg/Del.icio.us and such there's quite a bunch of Swedish feeds. And it looks pretty too.
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The Daily Rotation is a headline site. It can also be customized.
Woohoo. You can aggregate feeds with a number of readers like MonkeyChow (http://www.monkeychow.org).
If you really want to see RSS feeds from too many web sites, just load it up and watch yourself be overloaded by the "River of Information". Or just be sane and pick the few you really want to read.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
Wow, that tool sucks. Go for the MonkeyChow, dude.
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master."
An RSS reader is better if you want to automate the checking of those sites you're interested in. You don't have to keep refreshing; the RSS aggregator does it for you and, depending on your client, can alert you if there is new content.
This saves you the trouble of loading a new set of tabs and finding no new content. RSS readers are very good with infrequently updated pages. RSS readers also keep you up to date on frequently updated pages because you will be notified of new content once your reader discovers it. RSS readers also are easier to scan content with. I find myself not getting sucked in by story summaries. For many types of news, the headline is enough. In my case, using an RSS reader has cut my surfing time by 75% (as near as I can tell and without exaggeration.)
Finally, some RSS feeds include summaries, others excerpts, and some even the entire article. The amount of information you get depends on the level of detail the feed publisher chooses to provide.
I myself was scratching my own head about RSS readers and so decided to make an effort to see what the hoopdehaw was all about. I blogged about two Mac-based RSS readers (one of them free like beer) and haven't looked back. In fact, I so much prefer surfing by feed that I don't surf without access to an RSS reader. Just thinking about sifting through all the articles, say, on the front page of the NYTimes is fatiguing.
That mental fatigue is the result of the facts that, unlike RSS readers, web pages do not expire older articles as quickly as most RSS feed readers (with their default settings) and that most sites provide no way for you to flag an article for later attention or to mark an article as read.
The short version is try an RSS reader (I mention a few Windows-based clients at the bottom of the above-mentioned blog entry) and see for yourself if loading up Firefox tabs gives you comparable functionality. An RSS reader is one of those things like chat. Trying to explain why chat is in some ways preferable to email gets nowhere fast. You have to try it to understand what is so great about it.
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I would much rather give my parents a single feed that encapsulates everything my wife & I do.
When I add a new source or remove an existing source, my parents (and any other disciples) now have to edit their descriptions. But if they had used an aggregated feed, I would simply modify that feed, and everyone down the tube would automatically have the information I want.
This is what RSS aggregation is actually useful for.
Now the question is, which do I use? I experimented with several ( http://del.icio.us/ClintJCL/RSS+aggregator ) and didn't like any of them. Could someone suggest a better one for my purposes? thanks
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erm... and? My site, KickRSS, has been doing something similar for over a year now. It's far from alone - there's at least a dozen that I've come across (although none did quite what I wanted - merging multiple feeds, and outputting them as both an aggregated RSS feed and as a webpage that doesn't need a login).
another site that does the same thing, but, I think, looks better is popurls.com. That's actually where I linked to this article from.
This makes sense for sites that change often and you might want to filter the feed content. This site filters deal posting forums rss feeds for content you want and creates a single rss feed: http://www.dealwatcher.biz/
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