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Xbox 360 adds 1080p Support

jayintune writes "2old2play has received news from the TGS (Tokyo Game Show) that Microsoft plans on releasing an update that will enable 1080p support on their Xbox 360 console. From the article, "users can expect 1080p upscaling immediately on current games and DVDs while native 1080p on compatible HD DVD titles." What could this mean for Sony now that MS has 1080p as well?" Now honestly, show of hands: who has their console (not PC!) connected to a display device capable of 1080p? Who plans on buying a device capable of 1080p?

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  1. more importantly... by maynard · · Score: 4, Informative

    Is that 1080p/24, 1080p/30, or 1080p/60? Because 1080p/30 has the same bandwidth requirements as 1080i/60 (duh). I haven't seen from either Sony or MS any technical specs which indicate real 1080p/60 support, even over hdmi.

    1. Re:more importantly... by mitchskin · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've got the Westinghouse LVM-37w3 hooked up to a PC over DVI, and it works great. It's doing 1920x1080 @ 60hz; when I watch DVDs the computer is doing the 24fps->60fps conversion. This does introduce some judder; it seems like the LCD ought to be able to do 24hz or a multiple thereof but I don't know how to do it.

      The judder, by the way, is only rarely noticeable and is pretty much the same everywhere else AFAIK, but it would be nice to get rid of it. The software infrastructure for detecting the frame rate of the source and auto-switching the display mode just isn't there though. In other words, I want it to be 60hz most of the time, and automatically switch to 24 or 48 hz when I'm watching a DVD that originally came from a (24 fps) film source, but not when I'm watching a DVD that originally came from a (30 fps) video source. Getting the display and X and the media players to work together to do that is a little way off though AFAICT.

      This is my X modeline:
      ModeLine "1920x1080" 138.5 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1082 1087 1111
      The standard autodetection/setup in Fedora Core 4 didn't set up the display right, but after trying it, I found the above numbers by looking in the X log output.

  2. Re:(Raises hand!) by arivanov · · Score: 3, Informative

    In that case what you should be looking is the supported res and if it is supported on the DVI (or analogue VGA) inputs. These are quite different from the HD ones. For example, recent JVC LT26 LCD tvs support HD 1080p, but their native panel resolution is actually 1366x768. Frankly, I have no idea what is the supported frequency and resolution on the VGA input as it is not written anywhere.

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  3. Re:random number with a letter at the end by Constantine+XVI · · Score: 5, Informative

    1080 lines of resolution, progressive scan (shows every line in every frame). You can thank me later.

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  4. Re:1080p, me! by drsmithy · · Score: 5, Informative
    I have a nice big plasma hooked up to a digital tuner... and in Australia digital tv is very prevalent (as in, every station that used to transmit analog now also transmit's digital with very very few exceptions). On top of that alot of progs are 1080p, and a htpc looks great at that res too:)

    No-one in Australia transmits anything at 1080p. ABC and SBS "HD" are 576p, although they have almost no "real" HD content - most all of it is upsampled SD. Seven is also 576p, although I think their "HD" broadcasts actually have 1080i sources. Both Nine and Ten broadcast in 1080i (even sport, which kind of sucks).

  5. Re:7 Years Late by EGSonikku · · Score: 4, Informative

    err, you do realise 1080p is 1920x1080 right?

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  6. 1080p not as expensive as you think by James+Lewis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, if you really want 1080p on the cheap (like I did) you can get it for a bit over $1000 by building your own LCD projector. Just use a laptop WUXGA screen. I've done this and am very happy with the results. When comparing it to a commercial projector there are downsides: size of the projector, light distribution isn't totally even (or as bright), colors aren't perfectly reproduced, contrast isn't as great. However, for the price it can't be beat IMHO. Those drawbacks aren't anything I actually notice when watching a movie, it feels just like I'm in a theater . I learned how to do it at the lumenlab forums: www.lumenlab.com

  7. Re:3rd question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Both the VGA cable and the Component cable do support 1080p. The only issue is that most of the 1080p TVs sold do not support 1080p over component. There are some exceptions, but generally they don't. But there's a lot more TVs that accept VGA and DVI, which will handle 1080p fine.

    This still doesn't answer the ICT question of course, so we should assume that ICT protected movies wont work. It sucks, but the less DRM support around, the better.

  8. Re:Dude, what about HD DVD by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm well aware that media that can take advantage of 1080p is slowly coming out. However, my comment was written in response to pjr.cc's claim that he is using a 1080p plasma (very few exist) to receive 1080p signals in Australia (where there are no 1080p signals). Claiming that you are actively using something to receive signals that don't exist is very different from claiming that you intend to use something down the road.

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