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First Gaming Fitness Arcade Opens in CA

Turismo writes "In an effort to convince teenagers to exercise, one entrepreneur has started a 'fitness arcade' in California that lures teens with movement-based videogames, WiFi, and study lounges. Should kids be getting even more exposure to media when they workout?" From the Ars Technica article: "When asked whether incorporating gaming into a workout routine was sending mixed messages to adolescents whose free time is often consumed by video games, instant messaging, and TV watching, Ferrell said that the approach Overtime Fitness is taking was necessary. 'In some ways, we're waving the white flag,' he admitted. 'But if we went the opposite way, they would be far less likely to jump in.'"

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  1. Adults aren't welcome? by andykuan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why restrict access to this club to kids? I'll bet there are plenty of adults who'd pay to use a gym like this. In fact, if my gym plopped me in front of a treadmill and a DDR machine, I know I'd go for the DDR machine.

    1. Re:Adults aren't welcome? by andykuan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ah, you're right. I'm sure I'd be thoroughly aggravated if a bunch of 12 year-olds started maniacally running around my gym.

      Well if I were a fitness entrepreneur, I'd start introducing gaming machines into my adult-only gyms slowly. But I'm not, which means I'll have to keep my mad-DDR-skillz at home.

    2. Re:Adults aren't welcome? by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not that any adults would WANT to come to this "kids" gym anyways. If they did you might want to wonder about them being pediphiles and whatnot. And just think about the locker room problems..

    3. Re:Adults aren't welcome? by kalirion · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't worry, the new FBI surveilance cameras installed into kids' locker rooms and monitored 24/7 will ensure that our children are safe from these sickos.

  2. Re:I can't be the only one by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What would be great is if the Wii could have some game where you strap Wiimotes to your arms and legs with some sort of holder and you could have more of a full-body dancing game that could detect your motions. I wonder if this arcade has or plans to have some game like that?

  3. Great Idea by Kyokugenryu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a great idea, I have no idea why no one has done this before. Konami's Mocap Boxing even counts the calories you work off (although I have no idea how accurate the tally is) and gives one hell of a workout. Now if they figured out a way for me to play World of Warcraft while working out, I'd be the most fit guy in the world.

    1. Re:Great Idea by EnderGT · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Just find a way to mount the keyboard and a trackball to the exercise machine (stationary bike, treadmill, etc) and set it up in front of a large screen, and you're good to go.

      Alternatively, they should find a way to link the game to the equipment. Imagine - the rate at which you can move around is dictated by how fast you pedal or run. Or maybe your health/mana/rage/etc regen rate is affected by how long your heart rate has been elevated above resting. Or, even more motivating: your need vs greed roll is weighted by your activity level.

      The real question is, how many subscribers would they lose if they enforced this...

    2. Re:Great Idea by andykuan · · Score: 2, Informative

      For starters, you could buy a DDR pad and hook it up to the computer then map the front/back/left/right arrows appropriately and perhaps use the corner arrows for particular talents associated with foot movement (like Charge for Warriors). Maybe use a second DDR pad mounted in front of you that you can hit with your hands to trigger other talents associated with hand movements. The only really tricky thing is figuring out how to implement mouse-look -- a handheld mouse might work or perhaps some gigantic adjustable resistance joystick.

  4. It beats watching TV at the gym by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been after my gym to get something like this. For a while, they had some of the cardio machines equipped with Internet access, but the gear was from a dot-com that went bust. They have TV, but that's boring, and working out usually doesn't align with the TV schedule.

    There was an arcade game called "Sky Cycle" about ten years ago, with a stationary bicycle. If you pedaled harder, you gained altitude. But all you could do was pedal along a canned route and pop balloons. Something like that, but more aggressive, would be fun as a piece of gym equipment. Tie it into a game like "Crimson Skies". Offer multiplayer mode, so you can have dogfights at the gym. Even in single player, though, Crimson Skies is fun. Now that would liven up cardio machines, which are, let's face it, boring.

    Who goes to gyms? Middle-aged people, now. Thirty years ago, the average age at gyms was 18-23. Now it's 46. It's the same people working out. That's part of why we're seeing teenage "wide loads". We need more fusions of gaming and gym equipment.

    1. Re:It beats watching TV at the gym by GlenRaphael · · Score: 2, Informative
      There was an arcade game called "Sky Cycle" about ten years ago,
      The game was actually called PropCycle. You drove a pedal-powered hanglider. You could coast in stretches, but stop pedalling for too long and it stalls.
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    2. Re:It beats watching TV at the gym by brkello · · Score: 2, Funny

      Uhh, no. If middle-aged people just went to the gym I would have nothing to look at but the TVs. There are plenty of people in their 20s that go...and thank god that they do.

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  5. Wait, huh? by bahwi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Should kids be getting even more exposure to media when they workout?"

    Umm, the problem isn't too much media exposure, the problem is kids aren't working out. This is using a potential problem(media exposure) to solve an existing problem(not enough to nil exercise).

  6. Not even a question.. by le0p · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should kids be getting even more exposure to media when they workout?

    That's not even relevant now, they aren't working out! I say anything that gets the kids in the gym is a good thing.

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  7. More support. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If the government had ANY, I repeat ANY sense at all, they'd look into this, and support or fund, to stem the apparent obesity epidemic the media is reporting on among America's youth. Is there? Really?

    As a multi-relapse former gym member, this interests me a whole lot more than my local Gold's Gym. I don't know if its the entertainment or gaming aspect of it, but this seems like it would be more enjoyable, from a physical exercise aspect, than hitting weight rack, machines, or mass cardio class. I prefer a little more mental stimulation when exercising, and the visual aspect that some of these exercises provides would probably fill that.

    I know I'm speaking for my preferences here, but ask yourself this: why would we not want something that we get exercise from and a little enjoyment/fun out of??

    Hmmm.... kinda like sex.

    /kindly waiting for armchair psychiatrists to break down my association issues ...

  8. Re:I can't be the only one by eln · · Score: 2, Informative

    And as the GP alluded to, most people quickly realized that the best way to win with the Power Pad was to pound on it with your fists.

  9. It's not just DDR, Konami has sports gyms too by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I get sweaty playing DDR and that boxing game with the 3lb "gloves" and that sword fighting game with the 5lb sword. Throw in some old Nintendo running pad olympics, and I think you've got a business plan!

    I used to own Konami shares - the Konami firm actually owns a chain of sports gymnasiums in Japan, and I could easily see them expanding DDR with some Wii games here and doing quite well. It's a fairly profitable component of their business, not counting the gaming machines (Mah Jong and gambling ones) they also run here in the US.

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  10. What happened to PE/Gym? by MMaestro · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Walk through the malls and high school halls in America, and you'll quickly notice that kids in the US could use a few good workouts.

    Um, maybe thats because PE (Physical education)/Gym has been in decline for years? I don't know how it is in other high schools but when I was in high school 4 years ago, we only had to take 1 year of PE/Gym. Oh and that 1 mile timed run we were 'required' to be 'tested' on? Most of us failed or didn't even finish.

  11. Dance, Dance, Dance DDR! by frankgod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would totally dump Bally's and join an adult version of this if there was one nearby! DDR takes some time to get into, but now that I play mostly heavy (most difficult) mode it is better exercise and way way more fun than an elliptical machine. I do have pads at home but I hit an arcade about once every week or two to get out and enjoy the real thing. I only hit Bally's once a week but I would go at least twice as often if they had DDR!

  12. some schools are already doing this. by GlenRaphael · · Score: 3, Informative
    If the government had ANY, I repeat ANY sense at all, they'd look into this, and support or fund, to stem the apparent obesity epidemic the media is reporting on among America's youth. Is there? Really?
    The government is already on this bandwagon. Local grade schools are using Dance Dance Revolution as part of a physical exercise program. West Virginia has it in all 765 public schools in the state.

    If you're interested in following this issue, let me humbly recommend my blog.

    Disclaimer: yeah, that was a blatant plug.

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  13. Mixed Messages? Nope. by smilinggoat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When asked whether incorporating gaming into a workout routine was sending mixed messages to adolescents whose free time is often consumed by video games, instant messaging, and TV watching, Ferrell said that the approach Overtime Fitness is taking was necessary."In some ways, we're waving the white flag,"

    How is that sending mixed messages? People multi-task today. This is the same as how Lance Armstrong or Mr. Nine-To-Fiver will go running with his iPod while listening to an NPR podcast. The only difference is the demographic and the focus of the media. I go running (almost) daily while listening to music, it gives me a chance to listen to my friends' and I's music and concentrate on it with little else distracting, a far cry from attempting to listen while driving or at home with roommates, spouses, and IMs. Same could go for gaming. Just keep on moving and keep on gaming.

  14. Re:3 Hours of DDR... by Khyber · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Two hours of Iaido with real swords and I'll guarantee you'll burn more calories, better develop your hand and eye coordination (and you learn to clean and re-sheathe your sword without looking,) and you'll be wicked deadly with a weapon!

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  15. Re:sword fight game? by Quikah · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mazan? I have played it at Dave and Buster's, the sword is made of styrofoam or something, weighs maybe 5 ounces, not 5lbs. Fun game.

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