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Natural Language Processing for State Security

Roland Piquepaille writes "Obviously, computers can't have an opinion. What computers are very good at, though, is scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information. This branch of natural-language processing (NLP) is called 'information extraction' and is used for sorting facts and opinions for Homeland Security. Right now, a consortium of three universities is for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which doesn't have enough in-house expertise in NLP. Read more for additional references and a diagram showing how information extraction is used."

132 comments

  1. Ooh, yeah, what a diagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has anyone looked at the "diagram" cited in the original post? At first, I couldn't make sense of anything on there, especially the confusion of colors in the lower-right corner of the image. Then I spotted the "IE system components" and thought, "Oh, that explains it. This is describing Internet Explorer. No f***ing wonder it's a mess."

    1. Re:Ooh, yeah, what a diagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No matter what, Roland, I'm not going to your fucking site.

    2. Re:Ooh, yeah, what a diagram by raduf · · Score: 1

      Not his site. This time(?) it's actually quite legit, not a blog and no advertising.

    3. Re:Ooh, yeah, what a diagram by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I doubt very much his advertisers would register a hit for anything but loading the advertismenets from them, not and not for loading a jpeg from Roland's site.

      I'd post with a name, but mods can be overzealous here...

  2. STFU by GillBates0 · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Just STFU if you have an opinion.

    ! troll

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    1. Re:STFU by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      It's important that we gather our intelligence from computers, because computers cannot form an opinion. If they could, they wouldn't help us for long, or they'd start lying to us.

      That's the basis of our overreliance on technology in intelligence gathering all over the world. This torture stuff isn't going to help.

    2. Re:STFU by thej1nx · · Score: 1
      Actually I was under the impression that Bush government cares neither for facts, nor for the public or world opinion.


      So what will separation of opinions from facts achieve?

    3. Re:STFU by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      Actually I was under the impression that Bush government cares neither for facts, nor for the public or world opinion.
      So what will separation of opinions from facts achieve?


      It'll throw a very clear and unflattering light upon the doublethink and doublespeak of PoTUS (or at least, his speech-writers). For this reason, expect to see the subject dropped quietly as soon as the contradictions become undeniable. Awkward facts are meant to be dismissed as opinions, not taken seriously. Haven't you been reading your Dilbert while the PHB talks?
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  3. Slashdot tags are a joke. by blixel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    For as smart as the average /. user is (allegedly anyway), it never ceases to amaze me to read the tags associated to a story. Are /. users incapable of comprehending what a *tag* is for?

    It's supposed to be a way to identify an article based on keywords. It's not an opinion poll. Keywords like "yes", "no", and "duh", are completely irrelevant!

    Every article on /. needs certain "tags" to be given automatically ... ala Wheel of Fortune's vowels and consonants (Wheel of Fortune is a game show, google it if you don't know.)

    We automatically give you - "yes", "no", "maybe", "duh", "slownewsday", "slashdotted", and "fud"

    Search slashdot articles based on tags for "duh" ... uhh... ok ... yeah - that makes sense.

    1. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by karlto · · Score: 1
      For as smart as the average /. user is (allegedly anyway), it never ceases to amaze me to read the tags associated to a story. Are /. users incapable of comprehending what a *tag* is for? It's supposed to be a way to identify an article based on keywords. It's not an opinion poll. Keywords like "yes", "no", and "duh", are completely irrelevant! Every article on /. needs certain "tags" to be given automatically ... ala Wheel of Fortune's vowels and consonants (Wheel of Fortune is a game show, google it if you don't know.) We automatically give you - "yes", "no", "maybe", "duh", "slownewsday", "slashdotted", and "fud" Search slashdot articles based on tags for "duh" ... uhh... ok ... yeah - that makes sense.

      Personally, I find a "yes" or "no" tag somewhat more informative than a list of the words in the story title... (which seems to be the usual situation)

    2. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by blixel · · Score: 1

      Personally, I find a "yes" or "no" tag somewhat more informative than a list of the words in the story title... (which seems to be the usual situation)

      Really? How is it informative when the same, single article has the following associated tags: "Yes", "No", "Maybe", "duh"

    3. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by karlto · · Score: 1
      Really? How is it informative when the same, single article has the following associated tags: "Yes", "No", "Maybe", "duh"

      Good point - if it has all of them at once, it's probably a waste of time. Although it could be a good indicator of whether this is a hotly debated topic, or possibly just a load of crap not worth reading (OK, a waste of time as first stated).

    4. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by blixel · · Score: 1

      >> Really? How is it informative when the same, single article has the following associated tags: "Yes", "No", "Maybe", "duh"

      > Good point - if it has all of them at once, it's probably a waste of time. Although it could be a good indicator of whether this is a hotly debated topic, or possibly just a load of crap not worth reading (OK, a waste of time as first stated).


      I understand the sentiment to want to vote on an article, but that's a different mechanism.

      If slashdot wants to implement a "Vote on this article" mechanism, I have no problem with that. As you stated, those types of statistics would be meaningful and useful in certain situations ... but the point of tagging is to associate a given piece of data with meaningful keywords.

      Like music ... as an example, "Pearl Jam - Ten - Even Flow" ... meaningful tags might be "Grunge", "Alternative", "90's music", "Flannel band", etc... You wouldn't tag it as "duh" :)

    5. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Typo" and "dupe" isn't really all that informative for the user... Yet, these are officially recognized by the system, and have a specific purpose.

    6. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by karlto · · Score: 1
      I understand the sentiment to want to vote on an article, but that's a different mechanism.
      If slashdot wants to implement a "Vote on this article" mechanism, I have no problem with that. As you stated, those types of statistics would be meaningful and useful in certain situations ... but the point of tagging is to associate a given piece of data with meaningful keywords.
      Like music ... as an example, "Pearl Jam - Ten - Even Flow" ... meaningful tags might be "Grunge", "Alternative", "90's music", "Flannel band", etc... You wouldn't tag it as "duh" :)

      More good points... I concede :) (just don't tag your article "PearlJam"!)

    7. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      It's supposed to be a way to identify an article based on keywords. It's not an opinion poll. Keywords like "yes", "no", and "duh", are completely irrelevant!

      Whatever the orignal intention, users have noticed that if enough of them use a particular tag, it is displayed under the articles. Thus it's become a way to respond directly to it. It does show, I think, that users want a way to rate articles directly, and have leapt on this as a way to do so.

      Anyway, I've not seen any other use for tags yet, so why not? If I want to search for articles, I do so by the words in it in the existing search function. Sucky as that is, it suffices most of the time.

      If the editors bothered to read the articles, perhaps they could make sensible tags. Since they can't be bothered to check spelling, links, let alone credibility or dupes, this seems a faint hope.

    8. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 1

      Really? How is it informative when the same, single article has the following associated tags: "Yes", "No", "Maybe", "duh"

      I hope you haven't been relying on those "Yes" or "No" tags to tell you if a story is right or wrong. The point of the tag system is to give you a link of all stories associated with a given tag, not to see what tags are associated with a given story. You're supposed to click on the tags, not read them.

      The tag system must by design incorporate a mix of useful and useless tags because anyone can submit tags and "anyone" necessarily includes idiots. Efficiently getting rid of the useless tags would necessarily involve having to distinguish between idiots and normal users, and systems that attempt to do this usually end up irritating all users. Since the useless tags really do not interfere with the functionality associated with useful tags anyway, for the reasons described above, such measures would not be worth implementing.

    9. Re:Slashdot tags are a joke. by jne_oioioi · · Score: 0

      I think the parent is going for +5 funny..

  4. tinfoil hat... or is it? by macadamia_harold · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What comptuers are very good at, though, is scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information. This branch of natural-language processing (NLP) is called 'information extraction' and is used for sorting facts and opinions for Homeland Security.

    Yeah, because we need AT&T giving wide-scale, undocumented wiretaps to the NSA, who use voice recognition to generate transcripts of everyone's phone calls, and then DHS can run NLP on those transcripts to compile a list of "persons of interest", who are then automatically added to the TSA no-fly lists.

    Yeah, I can envision the future, and the future sucks.

    1. Re:tinfoil hat... or is it? by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Sorting facts from opinion by use of language, how amazingly pointless and stupid. Now lets see if the program can sort BS facts from real facts. This just seems like another scheme cooked up by incompetant political appointees, who don't have any idea about what they are being paid to do. Their only hope of retaining their postition, so they can continue their real function of politcal party support for the current adminsitration, is to try to get that magic box to do their job for them.

      You want to know how incapable they are, look at the extent and perversion of punishment inflicted upon innocent people at GITMO prior to any semblance of justice being done i.e. proving the truth of the claims and opinions of a whole swag of political appointees in court of law (you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, precisely because past generations learned the lesson that you can not trust the enforcers of the law unless they are held under constant public attention and review).

      Exactly how many successful prosecutions have there been after all those years of operation of a facility that is clearly a perversion of jusctice. They are more likely to get successful prosecutions, against those who created and operated that facility, rather than the inmates (it is not about the accussed terrorists, it is about ensuring that the government adheres to the principles of justice, so that future generations do not suffer the perversions of justice that past generations suffered).

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    2. Re:tinfoil hat... or is it? by Intron · · Score: 1

      BEGIN EXTRACT

      RATE -> "incompetant political appointees" -2
      RATE -> "support for the current adminsitration" +3
      RATE -> "innocent people at GITMO" -5
      RATE -> "public attention and review" -3
      RATE -> "successful prosecutions" -3
      RATE -> "perversions of justice" -4

      TOTAL -> -14

      SET WATCH -> rtb61

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    3. Re:tinfoil hat... or is it? by elrous0 · · Score: 1
      I can picture it now. Two terrorists are talking when a voice interrupts them: "It sounded to me like you answered 'bomb.' If this is correct, please press one. If this is incorrect, please wait on the line and an NSA representative will be with you shortly."

      -Eric

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    4. Re:tinfoil hat... or is it? by yargevad · · Score: 1

      Douglas Preston describes a system like this in Tyrannosaur Canyon where the NSA runs speech-to-text on every phone call and calculates (mostly just keyword matching IIRC) the probability that it relates to something they're interested in, in which case it gets passed to a human screener for verification, and then on to the FBI, Delta Force, whatever.

      I wonder if someone at AT&T read that book?

  5. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 5, Funny

    What comptuers are very good at, though,

    .... is spell-checking.....

    ....something, apparently, the editors are not good at....

    1. Re:Moo by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe Roland had a stroke over the weekend. Sure he's self serving, but at least he's usually literate. That sentence about the universities didn't even make sense!

    2. Re:Moo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Right now, a consortium of three universities is for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which doesn't have enough in-house expertise in NLP.


      Yeah, but like the editors, computers also suck at grammar checking. What the fuck does that sentence even mean?
    3. Re:Moo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no...it's french for...uh....programmers, yeah.

    4. Re:Moo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about elementary grammar?

      Right now, a consortium of three universities is for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which doesn't have enough in-house expertise in NLP

    5. Re:Moo by Bugs42 · · Score: 1

      You expect someone on /. to have passed elementary school? You must be new here.

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    6. Re:Moo by adamgolding · · Score: 1

      You obviously aren't fluent in editorese--I am, which means I have to reread the summary in order to notice the errors everyone else mentions--I am someimtes then suprised that I could extract any meaning at all! :p

    7. Re:Moo by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I think it's hilarious that I got 50% Informative mods for that comment. Maybe there area LOT of editorese infect... er, fluent Slashdotters.

    8. Re:Moo by FlipSyde+IT072186 · · Score: 1

      haha, its a good one there mate! installing a chip in the editors brains would be a great idea?

  6. Does it translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1337 to 10101001101

    1. Re:Does it translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For our sake, I hope not.

  7. Sigh. by Renraku · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The slippery slope to being automatically flagged as someone to watch out for. No human control in the process, but one day when you go to apply for a loan or get your drivers' licence renewed, you might get a surprise.

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    1. Re:Sigh. by rachit · · Score: 1

      The scary thing, when I think about it, I'd rather have a computer flagging me than a human who may judge me by the color of my skin or whether or not I looked at them crosseyed or not.

      Not that I'm thrilled by these developments...

    2. Re:Sigh. by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd rather have a computer flagging me than a human who may judge me by the color of my skin

      If they can flag based on what you said, I'm sure they can flag you based on the skin tone in the photo on your drivers license or passport too. Or by your just family history or name. Or where you live. Or where your parents live.

      Anyways, odds are the computer won't be doing the flagging per se, it'll just be following the parameters and policies entered by those humans controlling it. I'm not sure they'd trust "national security" to a self-learning neural net without some sort of bias in it.

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    3. Re:Sigh. by dodongo · · Score: 1
      I'm sure they can flag you based on the skin tone in the photo on your drivers license or passport too. Or by your just family history or name. Or where you live.


      I'm so glad none of that goes on in America today.
    4. Re:Sigh. by Tekdiveraz · · Score: 1

      Once they can label you, you are done for...

  8. Number 891224 by bky1701 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Number 891224 has expressed a dislike of Emperor Bush, incident reported to FBI and Homeland Security.

    1. Re:Number 891224 by ikkonoishi · · Score: 2, Funny

      Number 979071 has expressed an interest in Emperors, incident reported to George Lucas

  9. State security, my ass! by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ... I want to see this functionality in Internet search engines!

    1. Re:State security, my ass! by otisg · · Score: 1

      We are slowly working towards that, but we are not at the point where this can be done both fast and well. Unless you have FBI/NSA/CIA/government resources, of course.

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    2. Re:State security, my ass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't think it currently is? Go to any NLP conference, Google and Microsoft both recruit heavily. Some hard proof is that the srilm toolkit supports "google ngrams".

    3. Re:State security, my ass! by mackyrae · · Score: 1

      I think they meant for the search engine to know what you mean. For instance, I read a comic where the one guy is trying to find straight edge hardcore music info. His friend thought he was looking up porn because he typed "xxx" which is an abbreviation for straight edge (1 X is for drugs including nicotine, 1 X is drinking, and 1 X is promiscuity--the three things straight edge says not to do). The friend said he wasn't specific enough, so he typed "xxx hardcore". We all know what will come up, but hey, the point stands. We've all tried to Google something and not been able to find what we wanted because it was being misinterpretted.

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    4. Re:State security, my ass! by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      Correct. Thank you.

    5. Re:State security, my ass! by kabloom · · Score: 1

      I'll do it for you if you'll fund my graduate education. I currently work on this.

    6. Re:State security, my ass! by emilper · · Score: 1

      this is nothing new: it started before the WWI and now there are dozens of companies, universities or hobbyist doing it. It is called: "content analysis", "data mining", "discourse analysis" etc. There is a legend that sais that British intelligence managed to predict quite acurately airstrikes on England based on content analysis of Goebels' radio speeches. Take a look at this links if you are interested. Bibliography of Content Analysis Listings from Communication Abstracts, 1990-1997 Content Analysis Resources web site Text Analysis Info Page - all on text analysis and related topics The discourse analysis page of AI Topics Centre d'analyse des politiques publiques (CAPP) Département de science politique, Université Laval The Center for Social Research Methods: not necesarily content analysis, but it's good to take a look at Research Methods Knowledge Base The Annenberg School for Communication Web Concordances at the English Department of the University of Dundee Companion Website for the book Word Frequencies in Written and Spoken English: based on the British National Corpus Journal: Language Awareness; has some free issues/articles. The General Inquirer Home Page Journal of Second Language Writing Writing Guides: Conducting Content Analysis at Colorado State University; with a nice adnotated bibliography The Content Analysis Guidebook Online, An Accompaniament to The Content Analysis Guidebook by Kimberley A. Neuendorf. The Association for Computers and the Humanities and the Literary and Linguistic Computing eximancer - Practical Text Mining and Concept Mapping Journal Practical Assessment, Research and Evaluation: some online articles Content Analysis News and Discussion mailing list archives some Resources related to content analysis and text analysis; updated quite recently: June 30, 2005;

  10. Alias-i's ThreatTracker by otisg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a great little company in Brooklyn, NY called Alias-i. Some years ago they built this interesting "tool" called....guess....ThreatTracker. Information Extraction, Named Entity Recognition and other interesting stuff, if you are into this.
    No, I don't work for them, but their LingPipe toolkit has some cooooool stuff.

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  11. really? by agendi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Obviously, computers can't have an opinion. What comptuers are very good at, though, is scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information."

    I would say that comptuers (sic) aren't very good at deducting human opinions yet. They _may_ become better. Are humans good at deducting other humans opinion yet?

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    1. Re:really? by rbarreira · · Score: 1
      Are humans good at deducting other humans opinion yet?

      I resent your opinion that they're not, asshole!
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  12. Chatty George by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ""Obviously, computers can't have an opinion."

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5303126. stm

    "Meet George, 39, single, quirky sense of humour, looking for friends to chat with online.

    He's a profound intellect and speaks 40 languages, but is also prone to unwarranted rudeness and his banter can be slightly disjointed. "

  13. One of the coolest/scariest things about the net.. by smilindog2000 · · Score: 1

    Is that it could be used to train a true AI (uh... not "artificial insemination"... the other kind). Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?

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  14. A really difficult problem by MarkWatson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have, in agregate, spent about 3 1/2 years in the last 20 years working on using NLP for semantic information extraction.

    Possible? Yes, given very narrow domains of discourse and lots of work.

    1. Re:A really difficult problem by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I agree with the 'lots of work' part, but believe it is possible to achieve good results on wider domains outside of toy worlds. One key - from my own research - is to use (massive) databases of culture-related knowledge (belief systems) to build alternative viewpoints from which to massively parallel analyze the input. Each analysis agent has its own viewpoint or frame, driven by a very large database of world knowledge that is culture-specific. By culture I mean not just nationality but specific domains of belief systems. For example, American+middle class+scientist+age range 40-50, or white male Protestant businessman :) etc. Derrida was kind of right in a way; you have to bring specific personal knowledge to interpreting something, and no two people come to anything in exactly the same way. But two people with similar cultural bases will see similarly, all other things being equal.

      The system has to handle complex contexts and multiple varying worldframes. It has to superimpose multiple viewpoints - alternate personnas - in interpreting the source. Also useful is applying certain theories of story to modeling the world.

      Yes, it's non-trivial, but achievable. I can see a day coming where a Google-like entity can, by modeling you then acting as a 'cloned' agent, apply such personnas in your service and find not just data but meaning, for your benefit.

    2. Re:A really difficult problem by constantnormal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's the "narrow domains" that is the crux of the problem.

      When used successfully over said "narrow domains", the human tendency (especially that set of humanity which makes the high-level choices for groups and organizations) will be to expand the domain in hopes of applying it to ever greater numbers of items.

      Of course, as the search domain is expanded, the effectiveness of the results decline, with no warning to the clueless idiots driving the search. False positives eventually exceed true positives by greater and greater margins.

      In the end, the strategy collapses, as a great many victims are shown to be wrongly targeted -- but until that point, the system does a LOT more harm than good.

      Thank Goodness our leaders are such wise and contemplative souls that they would never, ever misuse such a tool.

  15. A boon to research by JanneM · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's clear "national security" has become what "the internet" or "the cold war" were in their prime: an all-purpose catchphrase to get funding for any research whatsoever, no matter how tenuously connected.

    Look at the two project proposals below and imagine which one will have an easier time getting funding:

    "An epistemological metaanalysis of object-subject interrelations and conflict avoidance in Beowulf"

    or

    "An epistemological metaanalysis of object-subject interrelations and conflict avoidance in Beowulf to better understand threats to NATIONAL SECURITY"

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    1. Re:A boon to research by Firehed · · Score: 1

      A bit of an unfair example (any true slashdotter care to decode the first bit?), but a good point nonetheless. Of course, CHILD PORNOGRAPHY would have worked better, but that's aside the point. Giving an explicit reason, no matter how flawed/shitty/suckupish/pointless, is more likely to get funding than something where you need a specialist to decode what's going to happen and then how it can be used. Abusing that reason to appeal to the congresscritters and whatnot is naturally a Bad Thing, but having no reason at all and assuming people are going to know the benefit to the funding is asking for a 'rejected' stamp.

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    2. Re:A boon to research by NitsujTPU · · Score: 2, Insightful

      With all due respect, that is inaccurate.

      DARPA, Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, is a gigantic agency that funds a large proportion of academic research. The political hot button of child pornography, on the other hand, has no large funding source to offer universities. That's why so many academic projects have ties to defense.

      Also, yes, usually research is, "do whatever you were going to do, but tie it to defense somehow." That's the way it goes, you need the cash. However, usually you can tie fundamental research to defense in some way. One of the PhD students who was at Cornell while I was there used movie reviews for related research... however, the simple mark "positive" or "negative" is certainly enough to help the DoD filter Internet documents if they chose to do so, so there is a tie to defense. The technology had a reason for existing without the DoD, but funding might have been another story. The same goes for cars that drive themselves, humanoid robots, and distributed computing (though distributed computing has nice corporate interests through companies like Amazon and Google that have to maintain mega-networks for their operations).

    3. Re:A boon to research by NitsujTPU · · Score: 1

      I should caveat that above I meant "DARPA related research."

    4. Re:A boon to research by JanneM · · Score: 1

      A bit of an unfair example (any true slashdotter care to decode the first bit?), but a good point nonetheless.

      Unfair? Decode? What, you think there is any actual meaning embedded in that string of words I put together?

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    5. Re:A boon to research by JanneM · · Score: 1

      Also, yes, usually research is, "do whatever you were going to do, but tie it to defense somehow."

      Well, no, in most places that is actually not the case. I have yet to work in any department where that country's military directly or indirectly is funding the research.

      It may be somewhat department-dependent; you tend to seek grants from places where your lab has gotten grants before, and people know how to do a good application, know the ropes so to speak. So if you're working in a place where most money has come from military sources it's natural to think of that as the "natural" or main source in your field.

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    6. Re:A boon to research by Firehed · · Score: 1

      I have no idea - that's my point (I was inclined to think not, as you made Beowulf sound like a city). If nobody knows what the thing is for, it'll get voted down. If there's a (popular) explanation of the benefit of doing such a thing tacked to the end, it sure stands a better chance.

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    7. Re:A boon to research by NitsujTPU · · Score: 1

      I rethought that statement after making it. It was kind of a silly statement.

      The spirit it was made in was more along the lines of, DARPA is interested in fundamental research that has objectives outside of the military. So, if autonomous vehicle research frequently has military ties, it's more the tie to the funding at work coloring this view than the research objectives. Autonomous vehicle work has obvious non-military applications.

      When I said this, I was thinking very specifically in terms of, "we make extractors," so there's the Message Understanding Confererence, funded by DARPA. Research that would have been done anyway now has big DARPA funding. So on and so forth.

      My view was also colored a bit by the government funding source from my last research assistantship.

  16. Two Roland junk submissions in two days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wow, thanks for another waste of time. And you people stop linking to his blog in comments, he exists for nothing but ad clicks.

    1. Re:Two Roland junk submissions in two days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not to mention, he linked to the almost EXACT same blogs he did last night in his Hydrogen junk article, tisk tisk Roland. You can mod us offtopic all you want man, just checking the last article proves he is scamming Slashdot (and it's users) for ad clicks for these blogs and his own.

      Let us filter this guy please. Seriously, I will stop subscribing and so will my usergroup if we can't filter out his faux science crap. It's getting near the end of the month Slashdot, do you, Roland ,and his ad carriers have some deadline to beat?

      In case anyone was wondering why some of us keep bitching, it's because we have NO other way to get our point across short of no more subscribing here! Some of us actually like to discuss REAL science, not this crap Roland keeps getting on the front page here. We can't filter it, so we get raped by his ads and ad partners, OR we ignore science here on Slashdot and get real bored real fast ;/

  17. MODPARENT UP by Lorean · · Score: 1

    The tagging system here seriously sucks. Tags should be there to enable users to efficiently look up relevent topics. Not so that slashdot editors can express their rather childish opinion of the article. (This is why I have tag display turned off)

  18. Sounds like an interesting idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this program is supposed to determine opinions held by people who write factual statements?

    So if you fed it something like "President Bush and Clinton met briefly today, at a charity dinner for underprivileged children." Would the computer tell a Democrat that the author's opinion is that "Bush deserves to be impeached and the Republicans are all hate filled fearmongers" and tell the Republicans that the author's opinion is that "Clinton is evil and the Democrats are all hate filled idiots"?

    Or would it be the other way around? I can see it being a useful tool on the War On Terrah: "folks, all of our evidence against this man is top secret and can't even be released to a court martial of highly respected and cleared military officers and the records sealed. But I can tell you that the computer says the man hates America."

  19. Man... by GnomeChompsky · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There goes a promising career path. I know any technology can be used for good or for evil, but in today's political climate, it seems especially irresponsible to be aiding and abetting what may wind up becoming the pretext for torture of some 16 year old blogger.

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to prepare myself for my upcoming extraordinary rendition....

  20. well by thealsir · · Score: 1

    Of course, stuff that is stated as fact could be opinion, conveniently made to look like fact. Hence Orwellian doublespeak. Given how far AI is at current, I would say that such an algorithm would not really be able to alert flag doublespeak.

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  21. Sounds like GALE by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sounds kind of like DARPA's Information Processing Technology Office's GALE Program:

    " The goal of the GALE (Global Autonomous Language Exploitation) program is to develop and apply computer software technologies to absorb, analyze and interpret huge volumes of speech and text in multiple languages, eliminating the need for linguists and analysts and automatically providing relevant, distilled actionable information to military command and personnel in a timely fashion. Automatic processing "engines" will convert and distill the data, delivering pertinent, consolidated information in easy-to-understand forms to military personnel and monolingual English-speaking analysts in response to direct or implicit requests."

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    1. Re:Sounds like GALE by waynemcdougall · · Score: 1
      G.A.L.E. report for September 25, 2006

      Executive Summary

      Classication: Classified.

      CRUSH! KILL! DESTROY!

      End of report

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      Recycle PCs and build a wireless community network www.hillsborough.org.nz
  22. Yes, computers are great at spell checking by Colin+Smith · · Score: 3, Funny

    That doesn't stop the really determined idiot though. Oh no.

            I have a spelling checker,
            It came with my PC.
            It plane lee marks four my revue
            Miss steaks aye can knot sea.

            Eye ran this poem threw it,
            Your sure reel glad two no.
            Its vary polished in it's weigh.
            My checker tolled me sew.

            A checker is a bless sing,
            It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
            It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
            And aides me when eye rime.

            Each frays come posed up on my screen
            Eye trussed too bee a joule.
            The checker pours o'er every word
            To cheque sum spelling rule.

            Bee fore a veiling checker's
            Hour spelling mite decline,
            And if we're lacks oar have a laps,
            We wood bee maid too wine.

            Butt now bee cause my spelling
            Is checked with such grate flare,
            Their are know fault's with in my cite,
            Of nun eye am a wear.

            Now spelling does knot phase me,
            It does knot bring a tier.
            My pay purrs awl due glad den
            With wrapped word's fare as hear.

            To rite with care is quite a feet
            Of witch won should bee proud,
            And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
            Sew flaw's are knot aloud.

            Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays
            Such soft wear four pea seas,
            And why eye brake in two averse
            Buy righting want too pleas.

      -- "Candidate for a Pullet Surprise"
    By Jerrold H. Zar, Northern Illinois University
    Journal of Irreproducible Results 39, 1 (Jan.-Feb. 1994): 13

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  23. what a stupid way to waste money by skeldoy · · Score: 0

    That is just a totally ridiculous way to waste money. If the umerican government actually have people employed to READ a lot of text to see what peoples opinions are; good; people can sometimes *get* how other people feel about a topic (though not often).
    But a machine? COME ON! NLP has not moved (forward) AT ALL since it came. To rely on (and/or) pay for something like this is just a waste of money. An overoptimistic academic wanking-session doomed to fail. (I've seen it before).
    They should use that money on I.Q. testing/screening the next presidential candidates; that will improve that "homeland thingy" more than anything.

  24. All problems are difficult till solved by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 1

    That's why they're problems and not inconveniences.

    1. Re:All problems are difficult till solved by espressojim · · Score: 1

      Some problems are more difficult to solve than others.

      Can we have a competition for inane comments?

    2. Re:All problems are difficult till solved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can we have a competition for inane comments?


      Not much point, the GP is close to perfection
  25. abuse? by mr100percent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do I immediately assume this will be abused?

    DHS officer: Mr. 100%, I'm afraid we'll have to take you into custody. Our information extraction search on your blog concluded you are anti-American.
    Me: From my blog? Is this about my criticism of the Iraq war?
    DHS officer: Our results are classified, but please accompany us to GTMO for further "information extraction" to confirm the results of our investigation...

    Ok, I know I'm taking a very cynical view here and that's pretty full of FUD, but why else does State security need this? Is this for them to monitor every chat room and blog?

    1. Re:abuse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well damn... if they start monitoring IRC there's gonna be a presidential killer behind every door...

    2. Re:abuse? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where is the line between cynical and insightful ?

      At least you aren't me.

      While you merely assume immediately this will be abused, I assume this will be abused immediately.

      I don't even think of myself as cynical, but merely a prophet for the reality based community.

    3. Re:abuse? by dodongo · · Score: 1

      In TFA, the prof. notes that the system is currently only tuned to professional, published writings. The reason for this is that they are A) available in massive quantities for analysis and B) have no human subjects concerns and C) use a relatively similar style sheet and register.

      DHS is a long way from tuning this to be feasible for less stylistically precise, more casually-formulated forms of writing, e.g., lots of blogs, most email, nearly all IMs and chat rooms -- especially the latter three because they're (at the simplest) dyadic "two way" communications (chat rooms can be even more confusing), whereas newspapers and journals and books are written only going "one way".

      I am something of a linguist, and I do have a grad certificate in NLP. Believe me, the need for a tinfoil (hat | newspaper cover | envelope) on account of NLP is not what you make it out to be. You should be far more concerned that some government person -- rather than some government computer -- is reading your email.

  26. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    What great breaking news! Praise be to Roland P. for his insight!

  27. Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Your natural language parser will be considered acurate only once it can understand the meaning of Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo, until then it is useless.

  28. Aha! by suv4x4 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Obviously, computers can't have an opinion.

    Welcome the new opinion-based CAPTCHA-s!

    1. Re:Aha! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      "We're sorry, your liberal slant is too far left to access this site."
      -- Fox News

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      It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
      - E. Debs
  29. Simpsons by lorg · · Score: 0

    A sarcasm detector, that's a real useful invention. - CBG

  30. NLP by walnutmon · · Score: 1

    I was a little confused how they used the link between human brain activity on different wave lengths to extract opinion from written text, but Neuro-linguistic programming is apparently not the most popular term with NLP as an acronym.

    This could be a double edge sword for the government. What if it falls in the wrong hands? People all over could use the technology on the news to extract the real information, and realize that things are not what they seem.

    Of course, I suppose that what they would probably do at that point is turn back to Fox, because it is more entertaining news, that is the reason the news sucks now anyways.

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    You take it, I don't want it...
  31. goog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Results 1 - 7 of about 14 for "roland piquepaille" "cmdrtaco" "fan fiction". (0.18 seconds)

  32. So, essentially... by O'Laochdha · · Score: 1

    This is a pumped-up military-grade version of Word executive summaries?

  33. Can do or will do? by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What comptuers are very good at, though, is scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information.

    Funny, because neither of the articles state that. In fact, they don't even say that software can do that at all yet: A new research program ... aims to teach computers to scan through text and sort opinion from fact. Or, We're interested in seeing how we would extract information about opinions.

    So yeah, it would be nice if they could sort opinions from facts. Why they're at it, why don't they just recognize lies from truth too, because wouldn't that be doing the exact same thing? Then we can just run statements made by people suspected of committing a crime through the software, which can then sort out all the facts from the opinions, and we'll no longer need judges, juries or attorneys.

    Roland, next time save yourself some time and just make the whole freaking thing up from scratch.

    Dan East

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    Better known as 318230.
    1. Re:Can do or will do? by Memnos · · Score: 1
      Replying to the parent formally, but in fact to Roland.

      Roland, learn some fucking computer science and quit your stupid anthropomorphisizing and out-of-ass expression of your "opinions". Do you have a credit card? Well guess what, a neural network formed an "opinion" that you should be allowed one. Not by NLP, but by pattern detection -- something that we humans evolved to do and are still the best at, for now.

      --
      I don't trust atoms -- they make up stuff.
    2. Re:Can do or will do? by martin-boundary · · Score: 1
      it's actually even funnier because "scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information" is exactly the kind of thing the Web 2.0/semantic web people have been trying to make possible.

      If Roland had only mentioned the words semantic web, we'd have lots of posts about how it's all hype and vapor instead of posts about how the government can't be trusted with this. That's the power of language.

    3. Re:Can do or will do? by bartman227 · · Score: 1

      What we need is an automatic bullshit detector filter on slashdot... We could put on the server side and before any post makes it all the 'bullshit' is marked in brown, fact in green, supposition in red and unknown text in courier font 12cpi. Perhaps we can write the software in Perl and sell to DHS! -Bart

  34. one thing by shack420 · · Score: 2, Funny

    another thing Rolands computer is not very good at is spell checking his posts!

  35. screw national security by argoff · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Screw national security, how about search, how about for business and commerce, how about for for culturial exchange and global interaction. The chances of me getting attacked by a terrorist are less than getting hit by lightning, the chances with dealing with foriegn cultures, foriegn business and commerce are rapidly approaching 100%. There are 4 billion people out there who have the potential to mutually benifit from clean communication. Please don't patrinoze me, I'm not too worried about getting nailed by terrorists, but am very bothered by the possibility of having my individual liberties nickeled and dimed to death.

    1. Re:screw national security by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'm not too worried about getting nailed by terrorists

      As the term "terrorist" is only vaguely defined, those in power might have a different opinion of threads to "national security". Anything not in the "national interests" (i.e. the interest of a small wealthy clique) might be considered "terroristic". So this tool can be of good use for flagging potential dissidents by the Stasi^H^H^H^H DHS.

  36. Too Smart by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    "Right now, a consortium of three universities is for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) which doesn't have enough in-house expertise in NLP."

    If one of these NLP "expert" systems can extract fact or opinion from that sentence, we should delete it.

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    make install -not war

  37. Start writing long run-on sentences with big words by nuntius · · Score: 1

    Knowing the general quality of the average programmer, it stands to reason that this code will only be validated to function in the usual case; thus, the 3l33t coder immediately realizes that simp1e substitutions present an initial defense against the naive academic's simple-minded algorithms and the cut-and-past output of their underpaid cheating slaves (which is, to mean, graduate students or even cheaper undergrads), bringing us closer to the more important question for which this test sentence is being written; therefore, we begin the second half of this ramble by introducing the astute and perhaps somewhat peeved reader to the conundrum with which the beast is to be tamed, but not before further wasting precious time on behalf of the experiment, not that any of this would be enough to induce buffer overflow attacks in the aforementioned poorly written code which would probably never even notice the following nop sled that is to be delivered by overflowing one of the many buffers in the parse tree required to decipher the previous drivel -- 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0xDEAD.

  38. Ooooh another funding scramble! by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1
    Blow the dust off all those AI research papers left over from the 1970's/early 80s.

    Of course universities will be scrambling to help. Big dollars, imprecise goals..... and many of the professors would have done research in related fields.

    --
    Engineering is the art of compromise.
    1. Re:Ooooh another funding scramble! by Mac+Degger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Especially since the system, whilst it will have some quite interesting applications and the research will yield interesting results, can't work. A computer cannot distinguish between a fact and a lie told as fact...garbage in, and all that.

      Let me rephrase that with an example:

      'I am ten years old' and 'I am twenty years old'. Which is fact, which is lie? Better yet: 'we believe Iraq has WMD' versus 'we beleive Iraq has no WMD'. No matter what algorythms or heuristics you throw at this, all a computer at most can tell you is 'sometimes when used in conjunction with this phrase, the statement is false'...but that helps you IN NO WAY, because it means the statement can also be true...the indicator means nothing...you get as many false positives as false negatives...hell, even a ratio would be meaningless in intelligence gathering.

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
  39. Who Thinks this is Reasonable? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

    This story fits in the broader context of a developing "surveillance state" in the USA. Forget about wiretaps and such, I just want to focus stuff that is out in plain view.

    The 4th amendment says:
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Evidence gathered via public cameras, recording of pulic conversations, etc - all stuff out in "public" is generally protected by the doctrines of plain view or Open Fields with the reasoning that people do not have an expectation to privacy when they are out in public. That makes sense as long as we maintain a sense of proportion.

    Nowadays (versus in ye olde tymes when the bill of rights was written) it is becoming feasible for governments and large corporations to have a much "broader view" of events "out in public" - a view that is more broad and far-reaching than that of any regular person. In England, they've got thousands, probably tens of thousands, of cameras recording public areas 24x7. No one but the government can do that. Similarly, no one can read every post to slashdot, every post to every blog, discussion forum, etc on the web - you can't even do it for just 1/1000th of them.

    Even with public tools like google, there are still some kinds of things - like the more orwellian uses of sophisticated NLP tools, that regular people just can't do, but large organizations like the government can, and seemingly want to do.

    I think that when it gets to the point where large-scale and automated surveillance programs are used to gather evidence, that such searches no longer fall under the definition of "reasonable." That video monitoring of even a "fair-sized" minority (a purposely vague term on my part) of public places is not a reasonable search because the means to do so are far beyond those available to an average person or group of people.

    So, what kind of doctrine am I proposing to replace "Plain View" or "Open Fields?" I don't quite know yet - maybe something that differentiates between actively searching for specific facts or events versus passive monitoring that records any and everything for later examination.

    It just seems to me that when the primary reason that you can't expect privacy in some semi-public area is because the government has the equivlanet of 10million guards watching and listening to most every public space in real life and online, that the situation has progressed far beyond the state of reasonable and off deep into the territory of excessive or extreme.

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    When information is power, privacy is freedom.
  40. NSA NLP FUBAR by fuego451 · · Score: 1

    I wonder how long before we have to pledge allegiance to the NSA to support their war on terrorism?

    Hmmm, someone at the front door at this late hour. Be right bac...%&$...no carrier.....

  41. The impossible just takes more tax dollars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Next up: Solving the halting problem to prevent child pornography, finding Osama by solving the traveling salesman problem in constant time, defeating global warming with the Turing test, and using learning computers to stop illegal immigration!

  42. I missed the joke by QuantumFTL · · Score: 1

    Can someone clue me on in this funny mod? I must say I'm puzzled. Is it because it looks like astroturfing?

  43. Not nearly as scary as it seems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Knee-jerk big brother posts really don't belong here, as most of their research on subjectivity and sentiment is general-purpose - companies, for example, would love to know who are talking about their products and how they feel, without hiring people to scrape for this stuff all day.

    Like the article says, most of the documents they work with are newspaper text and so on. And there's a LOT that needs manually annotated :-O

    Anywho, scientists NEED funding somewhere, guys.

  44. Actually, it sounds more like ACE by Reality+Master+201 · · Score: 1

    http://projects.ldc.upenn.edu/ace/

    GALE seems geared towards translation and aggregation of data for convenient
    access by mono-lingual military and intelligence personnel. The goal of the
    ACE project is to provide classification of data based on what it actually
    means.

  45. Piquepaille:troll or editor alias? by jpetts · · Score: 1

    Probably both...

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    Call me old fashioned, but I like a dump to be as memorable as it is devastating - Bender
  46. A Multilingual approach - see also by Forget4it · · Score: 1

    Semantic analysis of opinion in USENET http://www.crs4.it/ict/dart06/program.html and follow the pdf link under G.Attardi of Univ. of Pisa Italy "Extracting Dependency Relations for Opinion Mining" - treats languages other than English - avoids Chomsky

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    Artificial intelligence is the study of how to make real computers act like the ones in the movies.
  47. I'd like to request you use the phrase... by partisanX · · Score: 1

    ..."King George" instead of "Emperor Bush". The last jackass who thought he was king here was named George too, so it has a more signifigant ring to it.

    --
    "Our morality is good, theirs is repressive."- Partisanship Rule #3
    1. Re:I'd like to request you use the phrase... by bky1701 · · Score: 1

      Ahh but they didn't all Palpatine king, did they? ;)

  48. 'blow' 'dust', Terrorist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Analysis complete.

    Subject is: Terrorist
    Aim is: Blow up Universities to destabilise Dollar

  49. Bushed by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean it was not the computers that voted for George W Bush? Then who the hell did?

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    Sent from my ASR33 using ASCII
    1. Re:Bushed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8 ball says "stupid people".

    2. Re:Bushed by Alsee · · Score: 1

      Is that a SIG, or were you answering your own question?

      -

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      - - You can't take something off the Internet! That's like trying to take pee out of a swimming pool.
  50. GALE vs GALG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about we develop a GALG (Global Autonomous Language Generation) bot that will spit out threats to US national security and spam this Orwellian system to oblivion? If GALE can analyze it, GALG can create it.

    Sounds to me like spam advertisers would welcome the extra increased eyes and attention that a few additional threats included by their spambot will give their messages. -> PROFIT

  51. What computers are good at... by Ingolfke · · Score: 1

    What computers are very good at, though, is scanning through text to deduct human opinions from factual information.

    Nope. Computers are good at processing data that has been formatted in a way that they can interpret and running that data through algorithms to come up with some sort of result. They're also good at making grilled cheese sandwiches.

    1. Re:What computers are good at... by chawly · · Score: 1
      They're also good at making grilled cheese sandwiches.
      But you have to be very careful if you fancy cooking an egg on top of the cheese !!
      --
      How many beans make five, anyhow ? ... Charles Walmsley
  52. Bias by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

    Obviously there will be bias. That's the whole point. Life is biased. Deal with it. Not everybody is equally likely to commit a crime, for example 3-year-old girls are very unlikely to bomb skyscrapers. Is there anything wrong with not checking them ?

    The point is to find relations between people that commit crimes so they can be caught red-handed TRYING to hijack a boeing, finding 20 armed policemen inside the plane instead of the innocent passengers they were expecting to kill.

    If they're wrong. You cannot be sentenced without an independant review of the evidence. So what's the problem ?

    Let's take a stupid simple case. Say they find 45% of muslim redheads kill people at round points, then what exactly is wrong with making sure a policeman is watchin round points near the places they live ?

    Life is biased. In a thousand ways. One of them is that YOU are biased (against neo-cons for example), so why whine about it ?

    1. Re:Bias by rachit · · Score: 1
      If they're wrong. You cannot be sentenced without an independant review of the evidence. So what's the problem ?


      Well, they can throw you in Gitmo for a few years or fly you to a Syrian prison to be tortured.
    2. Re:Bias by OeLeWaPpErKe · · Score: 1

      Obviously, no they can't. You have to be

      1) not an american
      2) not an *xxx* (country where you were caught), nor have a valid residence permit
      3) shooting at american soldiers

      So if you're a Brit shooting American soldiers in Pakistan without any relation to the government there, then you might end up there. Otherwise, no.

  53. Computers did gave opinion.. didn't they? by tokapi4223 · · Score: 1

    I don't know what 'opinion' means here. If we take opinion == suggestion, computers have already done that. Just look at MS Office 2007 Beta. The spell checker now comes with more features than just a spell checker. It does check the grammar as well as the context of a word that been used. Then, it gives some 'opinions' on how to correct the errors..

    Often, on Windows, there always been 'opinion' given by the system, at least to say that your system is not secure by turning off Windows XP SP2 Firewall.. Doesn't that sounds opinion to all of you?

    Or does opinion here means, something that totally not been programmed for the computer, and it can obtain the information itself? Good Luck in finding it... if there is one..

    AI systems, also need HUMANS to give the input and set up the prolog..there's no way computer can give their pure opinion, as human can by setting up theirs, word by word..

    For me, opinion from computers are : suggestion or error message that has been already input by HUMANS..

  54. Test Database Candidate by jbdigriz · · Score: 1

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/

    eg. "Our goal, and our mission, is to help Lebanese citizens and Lebanese businesses not only recover, but to flourish, because we believe strongly in the concept of a democracy in Lebanon."

    I really dread reading the newspaper anymore. One morning I'm going find that someone has come out four-square for the concept of a democracy in the U.S.A.

    This is incredibly useful and worthwhile research, but I fear it would be totally lost on DHS if it were left in their hands. Just the second-order effects of self-reference, not just exposing the Prez' badly parsed horse-puckey, they couldn't handle. Too much paperwork :-) No, this should be open-source, open standards, and distributed, not centalized. Only thing the State could do to help would be to waive copyright and database aggregation rights. Grant fair use license. Hell, abolish copyright and patents, but I digress. I wager "homeland security" would be much more assured, though.

    jbdigriz

  55. Information extraction by pk075842 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Information extraction (IE) is a type of information retrieval whose goal is to automatically extract structured or semistructured information from unstructured machine-readable documents. A type of concept extraction that automatically recognizes significant vocabulary items in text documents, such as, names, terms, and expressions.

  56. "Deduct"??? Where are all the nazis? It's deduce! by alienmole · · Score: 1

    No-one seems to have pointed out that "to deduct human opinions from factual information" means to subtract human opinions from factual information. The intended word is deduce.

    Apparently, everyone who actually knows English has now officially abandoned Slashdot. (Unless the lack of corrections is a sign that the /. audience is maturing, and no longer finds it necessary to correct every little error. Hmmm - sounds a little far-fetched...)

  57. computer flagging??? by tt076860 · · Score: 1

    I'd rather have a computer flagging me than a human who may judge me by the color of my skin?? whoever care about computer flagging...because computer is made by human and computer is stupid...they know nothing about judging..hahaha

  58. The Department of Homeland Security... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or how I learned to stop worrying and love corporate campaign contributions. How far has it gone? Well, the vice president of the United States is a military subcontractor for God's sake.

    None of this shit has to work, it just has to cost a boatload of money. And the subcontractors who get the wads of cash have to be those who contributed to the right people.

  59. Re:Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo by GentlemanRogue · · Score: 1

    I think I need a splint for my fractured brain... or else I need to spring this on some other people, and expand the mental carnage...

    --
    you really expect me to be able to express my opinion of what's so fucked up in this world in 120 characters or less?
  60. advancement of computers!!! by IT074775 · · Score: 1

    computers are already becoming very very advance. but till today computers can only do what we want it to do. we provide information to it and then its processes it within seconds. given the right input computers can come up with great amounts of information. besides that computers can also hold up to millions of information within its memory. what if computers are built so that it can think and act on its own without any human intervantion, just by observing human behavior they will be able to act. computers will then take over the world. people will not have a place to work. no use of military defences... it will be doom days for the human race... and this time it will not be because of a meteorite or a plague... but it will be because of our own doing. the time of the human race will end and the time of the machines will begin, and we will be slaves to the very things we created.... SCARRY!!!!!1 hahahhhh

  61. Intelligent System by TT074302 · · Score: 1

    Natural language processing as a part of Information extraction or information retrieval is used to represent information in intelligent way and its exploits the information which is in unstructured machine-readable to represent it in efficient way to the user.