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When a Tech 'Breakthrough' Isn't Really

Carl Bialik from WSJ writes "'More than 8,600 press releases have been issued over the years with "breakthrough" in the headline, a majority of them by computer and electronics companies,' Lee Gomes writes in the Wall Street Journal. He examines whether hyperbole and hype has robbed the term of much of its meaning, focusing on a recently announced 'breakthrough' by Intel involving optical computing. From the article: 'Having been inside Intel's laser labs, I need no persuading that the company is doing important work here, and an Intel spokesman says the development is indeed a "breakthrough" because it shows how real-world optical products can be made with silicon. I wonder, though, how many more breakthroughs we will be reading about before optical computing becomes ubiquitous.'"

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  1. This story is AMAZING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was so excited when I RTFA that I immediately had to post a comment saying that this is simply the BEST article that I have ever read on Slashdot and it will probably be seen as THE breakthrough in human-to-human communications that we have all been waiting for.
    I am not exaggerating

  2. Past Tense & Specificity by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The word 'breakthrough' is definitely used too much.

    I'm always skeptical when it's used in a present tense. For example, "The Segway is a breakthrough in transportation technology."

    When the Segway first premiered, I heard this. Yet, it has been anything but a 'breakthrough' nor has it changed my life in anyway (with the exception of some humor at the Segway's expense).

    My point is that you can only really use the term in the past tense when something really did signal a breakthrough. Like the invention of solid state transistors. At the time, did they really realize how big it was? Maybe, but that's not always the case.

    Breakthroughs are also sometimes relative, for instance Srgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band might have been a musical breakthrough for rock but mean little to computer scientists. Likewise, proving Fermat's last theorem might have been a breakthrough for mathematics but meant little or nothing to a musician.

    So, in the end, I think 'breakthrough' is used prematurely but it also is used relative to fields a lot. I don't think the author bothered to look at the thousands of uses of the word to see if it was followed by "for physicists" or "for medicine" in which case they might have been genuine breakthroughs in that sense. The difficult breakthroughs are the ones that do affect everyone (like the transistor or radio) but they are becoming harder to pinpoint as many inventions these days aren't actual inventions but instead integration of already existing inventions to form a new utility for those devices.

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    1. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Would the mapping of the human genome in 2000 count? At the time, it was like, "Yay! Now cancer's a snap to fix!" But all it really revealed was that there's a lot more we need to know to make that information useful. So it definitely wasn't a waste -- that is, after all, the nature of acquiring new knowledge, but is it a breakthrough?

    2. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 2, Insightful

      On the other hand, when your team works hard for monthes to solve a technical problem and finally finds a working solution before your competition does, no one could make you admit it is not a breakthrough.

      And concerning the Segway, I can't say yet that it won't change my life, I just need to actually see at least one of them before I have an opinion :)

    3. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Lots of words have been pounded into dust:

      Hero - Used to be someone doing something they weren't expected to do at great personal risk. Now it is applied to everyone ("everyday hero", UGH) or people doing the job they are paid to do (i.e. firemen rescuing people from fires).

      Genius - Used to be someone who was consistantly and spectacularly intelligent (Einstein, Fermi, etc). Now it is anyone who happens to figure something out or is relatively smart. "My 3 year old can hum the national anthem, isn't he a genius?"

      Star - Anyone who is appearing on your show or in your movie. "We have a star on our show tonight, Zsa Zsa Gabor!"

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    4. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by mgblst · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hilarious - Whenever I see or hear something described as hilarious warning bells go of.

      Celebrity - At least in the UK, anybody who has ever appeared on TV, or is related to or has slept with someone who has been on TV. (At least this is true in the UK)

    5. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your right, it's easy to pinpoint "major breakthroughs" after several decades, quite another to recognise them when they happen. When I was a kid a "transistor" was the "thing" that made portable radios work, mine had nine of them. The first calculator I saw was worth a months wages (my dad was an engineer). I couldn't see them catching on except maybe for engineers, same with the first CD burner I saw. I even thought the simpsons was a "bad flintstones ripoff" until my kids got me to sit down and watch it.

      How many "breakthroughs" did it take to create the internet or is it a single "breakthrough" in it's own right? - I find these kind of sematic questions make for a boring article, I would rather read about peoples discoveries, breakthrough or otherwise.

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    6. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by Morphine007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think of any technological advancement as being analagous to peeling through the layers of an onion. The really useful/ubiquitous advancement doesn't occur until after you've gotten through all the layers. Piercing one of the layers, however, is worthy of being called a breakthrough. I would posit that the term shouldn't be used if someone else has already determined how to pierce the layer in question. After all, Quantum Mechanics was not invented and refined with the explicit goal of creating lasers and semiconductor-based computers... but here we are...

      Another example would be Galois Fields. They were a breakthrough in their time (over a hundred years ago), but never really had any use until recently. (Not that AES is the only use for GFs, but you get the tech reference....)

      Basically, what laymen consider a "breakthrough" is a result of tens, hundreds or thousands of smaller highly-localized "breakthroughs" combined. To say that the creation of Quantum Mechanics or Galois Fields were not breakthroughs, but that the physical consumer products created as a result of those innovations are, is basically an insult to the scientists who perform those innovations.

      Not that the term isn't overused and that many of the people using it aren't basically peddling snake oil though...

    7. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by chudnall · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hypocrite: Anyone having opinions or beliefs you disagree with.

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    8. Re:Past Tense & Specificity by houghi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If he were a fireman not on duty, he would do something that was not expected of him and that would qualify him as a hero. And nobody is talking about payment. There are plenty of firemen who do it on a volontary basis.

      I would say that a hero is somebody who does something out of the ordenary what is normaly not expected of him or her. A fireman is expected to go into a building and save people.

      And let's face it, the fireman that went into the two towers did nothing out of the ordanary. They went up to put out a fire. That does not mean I don't respect what they do and feel the loss of friends and family. It does not make them heroes.

      Also when you listen to the 'heroes' they all thought it pretty normal what they were doing. The fact that others don't does not make them heroes, it makes the others cowards.

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  3. He's using the wrong definition by TheWoozle · · Score: 2, Funny

    To an MBA, a "breakthrough" is anything that will make them more money (or in the case of marketing, anything that they *hope* will make them more money).

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  4. Just consider the definition by general+scruff · · Score: 2, Informative

    Breakthrough: any significant or sudden advance, development, achievement, or increase, as in scientific knowledge or diplomacy, that removes a barrier to progress.

    As long as there are barriers to progress (and they never seem to run out) we will have breakthroughs. As the saying goes: "If the Shoe Fits..."

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  5. "breakthrough" is no breakthrough itself... by xint · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The word "breakthrough" is actually no breakthrough itself. For years companies have used keywords to attract attention in consummer aspects. It was done years ago when companies used the word "Extreme" in absolutely everything that was being released to the public. (I wonder where Billy got his inspiration for W!ndows XP). By the end of the 90s everyone was using words like "Millenium" (LOL) and numbers like 2000; Example: "PruductName 2000! Out this Fall". And so the word "breakthrough" is nothing more than a marketing decision for some companies today.

  6. Contradiction? by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 2, Funny

    The FA is stating that we overuse the "breakthrough" word to advertize a tech that is still years away from market, and of course editors are happy to show us another great story.

  7. Breakthroughs ARE More Common by Psiven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As technology helps make new technology, it is expected for progress to hasten. So major milestones are reached more often and more quickly. Using press releases as a litmus test to measure claims of "breakthroughs" is a little much to ask, IMO. I expect a press release to be biased and grandiose - there's no surprise there. So while maybe the term "breakthrough" is being used a little liberally by corporations looking for investment, I fully expect to see major milestones reached at an accelerating pace.

  8. Two sides... by HatchedEggs · · Score: 3, Informative

    There are two sides to this...

    First off, more breakthroughs than ever are being made these days. Our technological advances are being made at an almost "silly" rate. We have made so many more in the past century than in the millenium that preceeded it. Why? Better education, greater body of knowledge, and of course computing doesn't hurt. So yes, there are alot of breakthroughts taking place.

    However, the term is also used as marketing hype. It still has a buzz to it after all these years of being misused, so I don't think companies will stop using it as a marketing scheme.

    In reference to IBM in the article... they certainly use the term "breakthrough", and much of what they do deserves recognition as such as they have pushed the envelope with their R&D. Of course Intel has also done a fantastic job. Some of what these companies do isn't necessary ground breaking work, as it has been done before. So I find it difficult to determine if the term should be used still since the work has been done before, but the difference is that when one of these large companies does it, it is so much more likely to succeed.

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  9. Semantics by jimmichie · · Score: 2, Informative

    The problem is that the word "breakthrough" has more than one meaning.

    1. An act of overcoming or penetrating an obstacle or restriction.
    2. A military offensive that penetrates an enemy's lines of defense.
    3. A major achievement or success that permits further progress, as in technology.
    (From www.answers.com)

    Press release writers can legitimately use the word to mean the first definition (a solution to a problem), while implying the third (emotive, hyperbolic) definition even if it doesn't actually mean it. As such, it is a very useful word to make your company look like it is leaping ahead of the competition and deserving of funding, whereas a press release which sticks to practical unemotive language and doesn't "big-up" the company is wasting an opportunity to generate interest and investment.
    No wonder it's an overused word - it makes your company money.

  10. It's not just the word "breakthrough" by testadicazzo · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I'm glad to see article like this.

    I actually do research in optical computing, but the problems aren't unique to that field. I'm always getting pressured to use words/phrases like "novel", "highly accurate", "unique", etc (basically just non quantitative positive adjectives) to make the titles of my talks or publications more sexy or provocative.

    It's annoying becuase they are just noise words. If something is really unique, a breakthrough, etc, those adjectives will be applied to your product (research, idea technology, choose your noun here) by others. Your job as an engineer or scientist should be to report the facts on your (noun here) in an unbiased and neutral fashion, giving meaningful benchmark figures regarding what it allows you to do. It's okay to focus on the strengths, but provide quantitative data, not meaningless adjectives and buzzwords. Fortunately more and more journals are stating not to use such meaningless drivel in their guidelines.

    In my research, whenever I see phrases like "good/excellent agreement with...", instead of "this shows a standard deviation of X%", I automatically assume someone is just putting a shine on lame results. This prejudice is pretty accurate, but of course not 100% so. I'd estimate 90% or so.

    The problem of course is the overly strong influence marketing has on us. Richard Feynman had a pretty good rant about this stuff. We really need to start punishing people/institutions for insulting our intelligence with this noise. He was more concerned with advertising campaigns which insult our intelligence, but the same trend has broadened itself.

    In the end, I think it's important we become more cognisant, thus more resistant, to transparent marketing techniques. When an institution is singing its own praises, be skeptical.

    On a tangent, if someone tells you "this is a quantum leap in XXX!", reply "so you mean to say it's the smallest possible change you can make?"

    1. Re:It's not just the word "breakthrough" by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There's a simple test for this. Take a book written from a hundred years ago. Most of the time you will see far more complex use of language, with extensive use of appositives and panrentheticals, that actually can take much effort to parse, leave alone comprehend. Now being hard to read doesn't necessarily make something better, and maybe we are just better at communicating clearly, but I have found the these older texts often are really that much better. Compare "The Wind in the Willows" or even "Winnie the Pooh" to anything written for kids in the last 50 years... I think our use of language is deteriorating significantly. Compare the speeches of Presidents Bush or Clinton to those of, say, Churchill or Lincoln. You will find that even when modern speeches are succinct and inspiring, as some of Bush's have been, or long and detailed, as most of Clinton's were, that the eloquence and beauty of orations from past generations simply do not exist any more.

      The very existence of widespread grammar and spelling errors (e.g., loose/lose, would of/would have, pluralizing with apostrophes) demonstrates to me that most people don't read very much if at all. Now good spelling is not always correlated with being well-read (one of the smartest and most well-read people, more well-read than I, that I know is a horrible speller), but when I see people claiming that they get all the useful information they need from sites like Digg or /., I can only conclude that those kinds of people are doomed to communicate at a highly illiterate level in perpetuity. Even if you were to read extensively from common magazines and newspapers, you will not be exposed to anything more than a very fundamental (read: 6th grade) level of proficiency with the language.

      I've been recently reading a book of lectures given by Max Planck in the early 1900's. While the scientific content the first couple lectures isn't above anything a typical high-schooler could (or should) be able to understand, I found the level of sophistication of his language to be surprisingly high, and yet I get the feeling that this was typical in that context for 100 years ago. Maybe we are just better at speaking succinctly... I think that is in some part true... but mostly I think we are simply losing our ability to express ourselves as well as our forefathers, that we lack much of their skill to communicate nuance and abstraction.

      A good recent example is the Pope's speech that caused such a stir. Now plenty of folks use any excuse imaginable to attack the Pope, and I doubt few if any of the people reacting with anger or violence even read (or even _could_ read) His Holiness' speech in its context and entirety. However, I cannot imagine that anyone with the capacity and will to actually understand what was said would respond with any criticism the like of which we've heard over the past few weeks. I found myself wishing for a thorough grounding in philosophy because I knew I was missing many of the implications of the Holy Father's words. My degree in Computer Science has done almost nothing to prepare me to consider the significance of Hellenistic thought and its relation and importance to modern faith.

      Does it matter? It should, but public perception, as ignorant as it may be, ends up having a much stronger effect regardless of whether it is based on fact or not, and those people, civic, religious leaders or anyone with an opinion, who have something nontrivial to say will suffer, as do we all, from a society that is indifferent, or even hostile, to in-depth communication or a use of language beyond that of a small child.

      You may have noticed that His Holiness expressed his sorrow for how his speech was received, not what he said. Far from being the usual weaselly apology of a politician who is only sorry he was caught, Pope Benedict correctly expressed the fact that the people who were angry did not, in fact, understand what he was trying to say. Could he have prevented this misunderstanding? Probably, but

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    2. Re:It's not just the word "breakthrough" by koyangi · · Score: 2, Funny

      "this is a quantum leap in XXX!"

      Hot buttered damn!!!

      Holographic pr0n at last!!!

  11. "Controversial" by snowgirl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not just the word "Breakthrough", but "Controversial", I hear that EVERY STPID EPISODE OF BONES THAT FOX MAKES. "Next week, on a controversial new Bones."

    It's like, what? Did you run out of otherwise reasonably descriptive words to describe this episode, because you use it so much, I can't hardly imagine that "Bones" would be watched by anyone unless immediately after they feel an intense need to call their best friend and discuss at length the moral issues involved with creating a 3D CG representation of a dead person based on the bones. I mean, clay worked fine, but when you have to solve crimes on a deadline, I suppose CG would let you get it done faster.

    This reminds me actually of in College, I had a friend, and we talked about how there are certain words that only advertisers use. Like "Hearty", when was the last time you heard anything but soup in a commercial described as "Hearty"?

    "MMm... this Captain Crunch is really hearty today, Mom!"

    No, it doesn't happen. Advertising people just learned some derived language of English I think. (My apologies to anyone on Slashdot who might be an advertising person, but... come on, hopefully you aren't coming up with this stupid stuff.)

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    1. Re:"Controversial" by joebutton · · Score: 2, Funny
      when was the last time you heard anything but soup in a commercial described as "Hearty"?

      I think it was about a week ago.

  12. Breakthrough is broken by diodeus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can we also add "Revolutionary" to the list?

  13. Like everyone else, all I can think is Segway by Ynsats · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A breakthrough is

    1. An act of overcoming or penetrating an obstacle or restriction.
    2. A major achievement or success that permits further progress, as in technology.

    While optical computing is a neato thing and it will probably make a splash in the computer world by enabling high performance systems to basically do things faster, is it really going to change the way we do computing? I mean, over the years, we have changed the way we do computing from a hardware standpoint. Things have advanced, technologies have come and gone and we have seen great strides in manufacturing techniques that have given us very small systems that you can carry in your pocket. But have we really changed the way we do the computing or are we just advancing hardware?

    Optical computing isn't really a breakthrough in the sense that it will make such a difference that we will have to rethink how we program systems to utilize this technology the best that we can. Then again, much of the things being listed as breakthroughs really aren't.

    What would it take to make a breakthrough? Well, cars that drive themselves safely and reliably. That would be a breakthrough because it would defintly change habits for people. Cheap, affordable space travel would be a breakthrough because it would change how we traverse the globe and even open space. Those are just a couple of things that would make an impact that could be considered a breakthrough. They would not only change the way we do things but they would also progress technology by making it available to a general consumer. That means profit margins which bring dollars for R&D to continually improve the technology.

    Optical computing is, again, a nice advancement but a breakthough, unlikely. It's not changing how we do something, it's just offering a different approach and it won't advance anything until it gets cheaper but, by then, it'll be eclipsed by the next "breakthrough". In the same line of thought, the biggest blunder of a breakthrough in recent history is the Segway. While yeah it is a neat idea, it's not going to change anything. It amounts to nothing more than a scooter with a gyroscope in it and if the idea was so great to begin with, wouldn't we be using scooters already? There are just inherent problems with the idea because there are sacrifices and concessions that need to be made just to make the statement that the Segway will change cities forever. Where is the incentive to make that change? A Segway isn't a breakthrough because it's answering a question that nobody asked.

    Cure cancer, that's a breakthrough. Solve traffic congestion, big deal. It will be a temporary fix until more people get Segways and just move the congestion to a different area. Along the same lines, find a way to use a different sepectrum of light to build a laser that at least triples the density of media storage space, that's a breakthrough. It changed everything from how we watch movies to how we store pictures of little Jimmy and little Sally on thier first day of school. It also advanced technology forcing the rest of the industry to find ways to use that technology to the best of its ability. It also changed other industries because now people have the ability to store large amounts of data. That changed everything from DVD players to digital cameras and we are seeing gear that is not afraid to use large amounts of space to provide much more content because there is media out there that can handle it. Finding a way to make a computer run faster, that's not necessarily a breakthrough. All the major chip manufacturers have been doing that for decades. Using optics is just a different way, not a breakthrough.

  14. Thoreau had something to say about this: by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Informative

    "As with our colleges, so with a hundred 'modern improvements'; there is an illusion about them; there is not always a positive advance. The devil goes on exacting compound interest to the last for his early share and numerous succeeding investments in them. Our inventions are wont to be pretty toys, which distract our attention from serious things. They are but improved means to an unimproved end, an end which it was already but too easy to arrive at; as railroads lead to Boston or New York. We are in great haste to construct a magnetic telegraph from Maine to Texas; but Maine and Texas, it may be, have nothing important to communicate. Either is in such a predicament as the man who was earnest to be introduced to a distinguished deaf woman, but when he was presented, and one end of her ear trumpet was put into his hand, had nothing to say. As if the main object were to talk fast and not to talk sensibly. We are eager to tunnel under the Atlantic and bring the Old World some weeks nearer to the New; but perchance the first news that will leak through into the broad, flapping American ear will be that the Princess Adelaide has the whooping cough."

    Thoreau, of course, was a technologist and business entrepreneur whose process for combining clay with graphite was a breakthrough in the development of pencil "lead..."

  15. I disagree by TheLink · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually in my opinion we haven't really made much progress in the recent decade at all.

    1942 manhattan project
    1945 first a-bomb, + hiroshima & nagasaki
    1947 transistor invented
    1949 Comet (passenger jet) Unveiled
    1951 electricity from nuclear power plant
    1952 US Airforce orders B52
    1955 U2 Tested
    1956 first O/S
    1957 silicon wafer, FORTRAN, sputnik
    1958-59 first IC, ALGOL, LISP
    1961 VTOL, first man in space, CTSS
    1962 spacewar computer game
    1964 computer mouse & windows
    1968 Douglas Engelbart demos the above, hypertext, collaborative computing and more
    1969 feb Jumbo jet (747) first flight
    1969 apr concorde first Mach 2 passenger jet first flight
    1969 apr QE 2 ship first voyage
    1969 Jul first man on moon
    1969 Multics
    1971 intel 4004
    1972 C
    1973 skylab, ethernet, UNIX, work on TCP/IP started
    1974 Altair and Scelbi
    1975 apollo & soyuz dock
    1976 viking landings on Mars, Apple I, ethernet launched
    1977 voyager 2 launched, Apple II, commodore
    1978 visicalc, vi
    1979 wordstar
    1980 TCP/IP RFCs
    1981 space shuttle, IBM PC
    1982 BSD gets TCP/IP
    1983 Apple Lisa
    1983 "Unix Review compares six Unix-compatibles for IBM PCs"
    1983 GNU project
    1984 Apple Mac, X Windows
    1985 Atari ST, Commodore Amiga, Microsoft Windows
    #Stagnation starts
    1986 chernobyl, challenger blow up
    1988 stealth fighter
    1989 stealth bomber
    1990 WWW (hypertext revisited)
    1991 Linux started (UNIX rehash)
    1992 Windows NT, NetBSD, FreeBSD
    1993 Mosaic
    1994 webcrawler
    1995 Windows 95, Altavista
    1996 pathfinder mars rover/lander (viking rehash)
    1997 google (good but not really a great leap )
    2003 spirit+opportunity mars rovers

    Looking at the past 10-20 years I can say there really hasn't been as many leaps. Most are just rehashes of the same thing done before. Some not actually done better just more popular. Linux is just UNIX revisited. Just go look at the video of Douglas Engelbart's demo in 1968 and you'll see we haven't really made that many advances in the computing fields.

    As for aerospace:

    All NASA can do is try to stop the space shuttles from blowing up.

    They're talking about going to the Moon again (so 1960s). Then there was all that fuss about sending probes to mars. Oh wow, like wasn't that done in 1976?

    Then there's the supersonic jetliner and big passenger jet... Heck the 747 design is still being used to this day (and it works pretty well too).

    Only thing new so far is the space tourism innovation by the Russians. Where on a regular schedule anyone reasonably fit and healthy with USD20 million bucks can go to space.

    Automobile tech? No breakthroughs. Now if there's practical gasoline/hydrocarbon fuel cell+filter that'll be a breakthrough.

    Nuclear fusion/fission? No significant progress at all.

    They've already spent billions and decades on hot fusion with not much to show for it, maybe they should just spend a bit more time and money investigating the cold fusion stuff - even if it isn't fusion, there's evidence that it could be an interesting phenomena. Or just spend some billions to make fission better.

    AI has been a field for bullshit artists.

    But medical tech has had some advances. You can now actually implement brain augmentation, telepathy and telekinesis with current communications/computing and medical technology. But the DMCA, RIAA and MPAA etc may hold the progress back in that field (they'll want a penny for your^H^H^H^H_their_ thoughts or more). And then there's the threat of lawsuits of course.

    Still TB and many other diseases seem to be threatening to make a comeback, so it's not been that great either.

    Lifespans are up mainly because infant mortality is down, and ER treatment is much better.

    Now, tell me of something really innovative in the past 10 years. No hypersonic jetliner to be seen. When the Concorde came out it was definitely not a rehash. The first man on the moon in 1969 was not

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    1. Re:I disagree by jmp_nyc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      True breakthroughs in technology are best identified the way economists identify recessions -- that is to say after the fact.

      The biggest innovations come from basic research, and one of the common characteristics of basic research is that the researchers don't know what they're looking for, they're just looking.

      Just look at some of the examples you point to that we use in everyday life. The way in which most of the western world functions right now would be substantially different without all sorts of things that people barely noticed at the time researchers discovered the last piece that fell into place to make it a reality.

      No, we don't have a cure for cancer yet, but there's no saying that when a cure for cancer comes around it won't turn out that the discovery depended on technologies developed over the last 25 years.

      For a perfect example, look at RSA encryption. The major innovation of RSA was to pair together a couple of extremely old math tricks that had previously been thought of as cute but useless. Does that mean that the breakthrough for RSA should be credited to Fermat or Sun Tzu? It certainly took until the last few decades to recognize the value of their work...
      -JMP

    2. Re:I disagree by PCM2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's always easy to be a naysayer. If you draw up a totally arbitrary list of achievements, then obviously you can decide that the list stops where you want it to stop, and includes only what you want it to include.

      You seem to like aerospace. What about the International Space Station? The Hubble Telescope? And most scientists would probably disagree with you that the recent Mars missions were about doing a "Viking rehash."

      Similarly, why dismiss what's been done in the computing fields? Is incremental research bad? Is it indicative of "no progress"?

      What about data storage? The demand for storage for digital media of all kinds have skyrocketed beyond all imaginable proportion since 1986, and yet we've pretty much managed to meet that demand. SAN networks, Fibre channel, the DVD, cheap flash memory -- all new.

      There were no LCD televisions in 1986. I don't even remember seeing a color LCD screen of any kind. A 32 inch one would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

      Much of the innovation in recent years has been in the life sciences. What about sequencing the human genome? What about stem cell research?

      For that matter, what about the ongoing search for a cure for AIDS? Sure, we still don't have one. But in 1986, when you say "stagnation starts," contracting HIV meant a rapid decline into ill health and an unpleasant death. Today, HIV positive people can live more-or-less normal lives, if they receive ongoing treatment. That treatment might allow them to live long enough to see a true cure.

      I could go on and on. Read some science magazines from time to time, instead of only paying attention to what hits the nightly news.

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  16. Such a cynical outlook... by Vr6dub · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here are a few off the top of my head... - explosion of the cellphone, wireless in general I guess, allowing people and business to stay connected 24/7 everywhere (good or bad depending on how you look at it)

    - GPS

    - nanotech

    - cloning

    - lasik eye surgery (one of the greatest inventions in the world if you previously had poor eyesight)

    - global finance

    - advances in manufacturing materials (polymers, alloys, etc.)

    - You seem to ignore the internet as a whole. While the bits and pieces examined by themselves are not technological breakthroughs, the system as a whole has COMPLETELY changed the way in which our world communicates and does business. To ignore the impact it has had is shortsighted.

    - the Patriot missle system

    - Wordstar...you included a damn word processor on your freaking list!! I understand it was popular at the time but come on man! I believe all the medical breakthroughs in the last 10-15 years trumps that silly word processor. Oh that's right, you live inside a small bubble consisting of space and computers. Nothing EVER happens outside of those two subjects.