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Intel Previews Potential Replacement for Flash Memory

GeeksAreSexy writes "Eweek has an article up about the invention of a new kind of nonvolatile memory technology that could one day replace traditional flash memory. Unlike traditional flash memory, chips using this new technology will be able to execute code with performance, and sustain millions of read/write cycles without dying." From the article: "This is a case in which 'Necessity is the mother of invention' is very true. We were forced to look for something else, completely different. That's why we decided to invest in PCM ... There are definitely limits to what you can do with our current flash methodology. There needs to be a complete quantum leap somewhere along the line to push everything forward. We believe PCM are going to be that quantum leap."

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  1. Damn... by tonigonenstein · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... and here I tought naively we could kiss goodbye to Macrobe Flash.

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    1. Re:Damn... by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... and here I tought naively we could kiss goodbye to Macrobe Flash.

      The only thing I thought was "Shit, I'm going need yet another blocker for my browser!"

  2. And this is NEW? by darrenadelaide · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just my 2c worth but I remember seeing this in a story (from Samsung) using the same technology at least 12 months ago Is this a reissue?

    1. Re:And this is NEW? by Gospodin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Impossible for three reasons:

      1. Slashdot only prints the most current, up-to-the-minute stories you won't find anywhere else.
      2. Slashdot never prints duplicates.
      3. Intel never "borrows" technology from competitors.

      You're welcome.

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    2. Re:And this is NEW? by cyfer2000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      While the whole thing is a little more complicated. Ovshinsky was the first one to get patent on this area, and he opened a company named Ovonics. Then Ovonics created a company named Ovonyx with a cofounder of Micron. Ovonyx is focused on the Phase Change RAM while Ovonics keeps working on things like Fuel cell, Solar cell, batteries...

      Gordon Moore of Intel was also one of the early researchers on the area of Phasse Change RAM. In 2000, Intel invested some big money into Ovonyx and get the license of Phase Change RAM from Ovonyx. Samsung licensed the Phase Change RAM from Ovonyx later.

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  3. Another one already? by Ant+P. · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So is this better or worse than that other "flash replacement" memory we heard about on /. the other week? You know, the one that's supposedly got the best parts of DRAM, hard disks and flash all in one?

    1. Re:Another one already? by mgblst · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I guess when he said parts, he didn't mean physical parts. What do you think?

    2. Re:Another one already? by Ant+P. · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually I thought the same thing at first until I read TFA. This one uses resistor heat (retarded idea in a PC, IMO) and that one uses magnetism.

  4. Nirvana by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Funny
    "PCM is like a super set of NOR or NAND flash," Doller said. "It's almost nirvana for an engineer. It reads fast, writes fast--it does everything faster."
    Nah, if it were nirvana for an engineer, it would do everything just as fast as it needs to, and no faster.
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  5. Quantum Leap by tygerstripes · · Score: 5, Funny
    There needs to be a complete quantum leap somewhere along the line to push everything forward. We believe PCM are going to be that quantum leap.
    You mean... like... a leap so small that it's impossible to make a conventional leap any smaller, and measuring and predicting effects on such a tiny scale are so experimental and imperceptible that they require a unique perspective of the laws of nature in order to make any sense of them?

    Hardly news then, right?

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    1. Re:Quantum Leap by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Funny

      Trapped in the past, Intel finds themselves leaping from technology to technology, putting things right, that once went wrong and hoping each time, that their next leap will be the leap home.

      that kind of leap...

    2. Re:Quantum Leap by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ziggy says there's still a 93 percent chance Itanic won't make it.

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  6. Re:Gramar police by Macthorpe · · Score: 2, Funny

    I predict a conflict between the Grammar Police and the Spelling Nazis on such a scale as to make World War II look like two toddlers fighting over Lego.

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  7. Well I heard... by ronadams · · Score: 2, Funny

    that they were manufacturing this new memory out of the recycled parts from millions of discarded RDRAM chips.

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  8. Re:Similar to CD-RW? by mgblst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You realise that CPUs user the same material as most beaches, but they still manage to give them many more FLOPS than your average beach. It is almost as if it is more important the way the material is used - nah, that can't be true. If one product is made out the same material as another product, then it must be exactly the same!!!

  9. Little Did They Suspect... by CheeseburgerBrown · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...they'd end up on Enterprise.

  10. Wrong kind of Flash... by martinmarv · · Score: 2, Funny

    Flash memory, not web-animation-Flash. (Not The Flash who runs very fast, and not Flash Gordon who fights Ming the Merciless. Also, not Flash the bathroom-cleaning liquid).

    1. Re:Wrong kind of Flash... by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, maybe not, but wouldn't you pay money to see Intel's CEO in his dark suit appear in a commercial singing, "Flash!...Ahhhhahhhhh....", with the surviving members of Queen backing him up?

      Not much money, I know. But a 6" Subway vegetarian worth, probably.

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  11. Headline Changed by abscissa · · Score: 2, Informative

    The headline has been changed clandestinely and the word "memory" has been added... in case you are wondering about some of the comments before this one.

    Like many people here, I too saw the headline and thought some replacement for macromedia flash was on its way...

  12. Re:Similar to CD-RW? by CortoMaltese · · Score: 3, Funny
    You realise that CPUs user the same material as most beaches, but they still manage to give them many more FLOPS than your average beach.
    You're comparing apples and oranges. When comparing CPUs and beaches, instead of flops you really should compare flip-flops and flip-flops.
  13. Re:Similar to CD-RW? by dhovis · · Score: 3, Informative
    You realise that CPUs user the same material as most beaches

    Ummmm.....No. Beach sand is mostly silicon dioxide, whereas computer chips are fabricated starting from wafers of very pure silicon.

    Diamond (pure carbon) and carbon dioxide don't have similar properites either.

    Sorry to get pedantic, but I'm a materials scientist, and it really pisses me off when people get these things mixed up. It is even worse when people confuse silicon (the base material for computer chips) with silicone (a polymer material used in caulking and breast implants).

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  14. Re:Similar to CD-RW? by saider · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but there's no fundamental technical difference as far as I can see

    Except that one is changed with a laser and the other is done electrically?

    The laser is probably more powerful than it needs to be because it needs to pass through a (relatively) dirty lens, several mm of air, and a layer of plastic before altering the material. in order to do this reliably, they overpower the laser so that it can achieve the effect. The tradeoff is that the excess power wears the material out faster.

    Now the material is integrated into a chip and uses simple thermal conduction instead of radiation to achieve the effect. The distances are much smaller and the environment is much more controlled, which means that you do not need to overpower the devices. This results in reduced wear, which means a longer life.

    As the GPP said...
    "It is almost as if it is more important the way the material is used".

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  15. Re:a quantum leap is the SMALLest possible leap!!! by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm afraid >a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?k ey=64758&dict=CALD">it's too late.

    Besides which, the "original" quantum leap isn't "the smallest possible leap", it's a movement of a particle that should be impossible - iirc, it's either when a particle moves from point A to point B without passing through the intervening space, or when it crosses a potential barrier that (classically speaking) it's impossible for it to cross.

    The idea being not that it's a giant leap forward, but that it's an unexpected, seemingly impossible event; it has since come to mean an important improvement. It does grate a little on me too, to be honest.

  16. Re:a quantum leap is the SMALLest possible leap!!! by realnowhereman · · Score: 2, Informative

    Will people stop confusing the word "quantum" with "small"?

    A quantum leap does not mean "the smallest possible leap"; it just so happens it is the smallest possible leap. However, it means a jump from one discrete energy level to another, without passing through anything in between.

    To me, that makes "a quantum leap in technology" a perfectly resonable metaphor. Albeit completely overused by marketing droids.

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  17. Millions of read/write cycles... by joto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    [snip] execute code with performance, and sustain millions of read/write cycles without dying.

    Wow! That means that in the worst case, it will last SEVERAL seconds!!!

    (Wouldn't it be better to have something like trillions of read/write cycles, so we know it will at least last a few years?)

  18. A Lot of Potential, But a Long Way to Go by organgtool · · Score: 3, Interesting
    According to Wikipedia, PCM has the potential to squeeze a terabyte into one square inch. However, even a few gigs is enough to make a huge difference. PCM could be used to store the operating system and application files as well as for swap. Since PCM performs similarly to DRAM, it would be like having all of your applications loaded into memory at all times. And since this memory is non-volatile, going into and out of hibernation mode would be almost instantaneous and it would not use any power while in hibernation mode. It would also having the following benefits:
    • Lower power consumption since this has no moving parts and your computer would only need to spin the hard drive if the user is requesting a document file
    • Less noise since the hard drive could remain powered down if the user was not currently accessing documents
    • Less heat which would reduce the number of case fans required
    • Since it uses less power, laptops would get more life out of their batteries

    I can see a day where this memory is used in place of DRAM and application files are permanently stored in memory even when the system is off.
  19. watch your metaphors by oohshiny · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think when people talk about "quantum leaps", they are forgetting two things: (1) quantum leaps are usually tiny, and (2) it is unpredictable when they happen. Is that the metaphor Intel wants?

  20. Re:Similar to CD-RW? by dhovis · · Score: 2, Informative

    OK, I'll give you a big chunk of quartz (SiO2), and you make a transitor out of it.

    There are a lot of materials that go into a computer chip, and SiO2 plays an important role (mostly as a gate dielectric), though as you say, other materials have started to be substituted in. But to say that SiO2 is the useful part? You can't make a transistor out of SiO2 only, it doesn't conduct electricity.

    Take a look at the MOSFET illustrated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lateral_mosfet. svg. The oxide is SiO2, the material above that is polysilicon, but everything below that is doped single crystal silicon. You don't want grain boundaries in your transistor mucking up the electrical properties. The transistors are connected with metal interconnects, usually copper these days because it has the second-highest conductivity of all metals (only silver is better, but not by much).

    Now, I'll admit that my specialty these days is oxidation of nickel-based superalloys, but I still have a Ph.D. in materials science. I'm sure someone out there knows the details of current transistor design, but I'm sure the core of it is all still silicon. The reason that you don't hear much about the silicon part is that there aren't many opportunities to improve that part of it, whereas there is a significant opportunity to make improvements to the gate dielectric. SiO2 is only used because it is easy to make by oxidizing silicon and it does not react with silicon. For a long time, it was "good enough". Low-k materials would be better, and that is why you hear about them more.

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