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Computer Analysis Sets NASA History Straight

Ellis D. Tripp writes, "A computer analysis has upheld Neil Armstrong's version of the first words spoken on the lunar surface. The word 'a' was dropped due to a communications glitch, and Armstrong has been accused of flubbing his words since the historic 1969 landing. The corrected statement was 'That's one small step for *A* man, One giant leap for mankind.'"

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  1. Good news by Linker3000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, I am glad that's finally sorted - I've been losing sleep over the issue for years.

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    1. Re:Good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      In this context, man would be short for mankind, so in effect Neil would have been saying "That's one small step for mankind, one giant leap for mankind". Which is totally stupid. What he thought he was saying was: "That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind", which means that Neil (personally, aka: A man) took one small (1 ft or so off the ladder) step to reach the moon, but it took a giant leap in mankind (Engineering: physical and social) to put a man on the moon.

    2. Re:Good news by megaditto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Now if only they could find the original Apollo mission tapes

      "Computer analysis" my ass.

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  2. *Ahem* by MyLongNickName · · Score: 3, Funny

    When stories keep changing, it is a sign of a cover up. Yet more proof that the moon landings were a hoax.
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    (now to take bets on whether this gets modded funny or troll)

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    1. Re:*Ahem* by ianejames · · Score: 4, Funny

      mod parent "funny troll"

    2. Re:*Ahem* by HighBit · · Score: 2, Funny

      mod parent "funny"

    3. Re:*Ahem* by cp.tar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wait, let me try... mod parent "flamebait"

      /ducks

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    4. Re:*Ahem* by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Insightful

      mod parent underrated

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    5. Re:*Ahem* by WilliamSChips · · Score: 2, Funny

      mod parent insightful

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    6. Re:*Ahem* by Kahless2k · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would you people stop modding my parents; They're starting to complain.

      *ducks*

    7. Re:*Ahem* by DieByWire · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yet more proof that the moon landings were a hoax.

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  3. Well by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I doubt this will ever become realised in the mainsteam concious, it's been ingrained on the entire world and I don't think there is anyone (english speaking) who wouldn't be able to quote it. I don't think it's ever really been an issue of dropping the 'a', the line gains memorability for that. At the end of the day I think this research will end up as a nice section of trivia somewhere, but we will all remember the quote that came through on that day, and surely the communications glitch was a part of history too, so it should be remembered that way IMHO.

    1. Re:Well by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "and surely the communications glitch was a part of history too, so it should be remembered that way IMHO."

      I remember it as a quote that didn't make sense. In context, "man" == "mankind". It would have been silly to say "That's one small step for mankind, one giant leap for mankind".

      Ever since I learned that Armstrong contended that the "a" was lost, the quotation made sense and IMHO it's one of the most profound statements ever uttered... unless you drop the "a". Let's try to correct the error and remember what he REALLY said.

      The fact that the record was incorrect for 40 years should be a footnote.

    2. Re: Well by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > I doubt this will ever become realised in the mainsteam concious, it's been ingrained on the entire world and I don't think there is anyone (english speaking) who wouldn't be able to quote it. I don't think it's ever really been an issue of dropping the 'a', the line gains memorability for that. At the end of the day I think this research will end up as a nice section of trivia somewhere, but we will all remember the quote that came through on that day, and surely the communications glitch was a part of history too, so it should be remembered that way IMHO.

      What's sad is that it hasn't turned out to be a giant leap for mankind after all, but rather the high-water point of a short-term venture we haven't had the will to follow through on.

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    3. Re: Well by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Problem is that, after the moon, the learning curve for landing on heavenly bodies jumps a bit. Gets a little hairier after Mars, too.

    4. Re:Well by Dausha · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "I don't think there is anyone (english speaking) who wouldn't be able to quote it."

      What's funny is I always thought there was meant to be an 'a' in it. When you hear the audio, it sounds like something is missing before the man based on how 'man' was said (to me, it sounds like m-man, which lead me to believe it was a-man). So, whenever I said it, I put the 'a' in there.

      So, while you may not think there's anyone, I'm one who would quote with the 'a.'

      In other news, "Take the 'L' out of lover, and it's over."

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    5. Re: Well by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny

      Technically, the landing part 'aint really all that hard...

      At least it's not supposed to be. Landings should be nice and gentle.

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    6. Re: Well by Volante3192 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Landings aren't hard. It's the landing safely part that's tricky.

    7. Re:Well by istartedi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It doesn't make sense, so you have to give it your own sense. Here's how I've always done that:

      If the "a" had come through, then we would have got the original meaning. It was Armstrong representing mankind. Without the "a", it becomes all of us. This is not to imply that Armstrong was overestimating his own importance. AFAIK, he was as humble as anyone can be in that circumstance. Nevertheless, the "divine edit" of the "a" makes the two parts of the utterance into a nonsequitur that can be resolved by assuming that Armstrong meant that the "one small step for man" was taken by all of us, to the extent that we were all humans just like him; the small step was the mere physical act of getting there. The "giant leap" was all the implications of having gotten there.

      Besides. Why mess with success.

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  4. And in other news... by techno-vampire · · Score: 5, Funny

    This just in: computer analysis has revealed that Han Solo did, in fact, shoot first!

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    1. Re:And in other news... by wrook · · Score: 3, Funny

      Therefore Chewbacca is from Endor, you must acquit.

    2. Re:And in other news... by wrook · · Score: 4, Funny

      Damnit! I *swear* I typed the "if". Must be a communications glitch...

  5. Sound Stage? by MindStalker · · Score: 2, Funny

    But wasn't it all recorded on a NASA Sound Stage? I mean seriously how are we to believe that such prestine equipment setup for the moon landing would drop the 'a'. //HEHEHE Sorry..

  6. *A* Computer Analyst? by Jane_Dozey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Are you sure that it's "*A* Computer Analyst..." and not just "Computer Analyst..."?

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  7. Flubbing the biggest first post of all time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He really meant to plant a goatse.cx flag. :-)

  8. History Re-written by Yahma · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Niel Armstrong did have alot of critics who complained that he changed his story, or was trying to change what he had apparently said in order to make it sound better/different. This computer analysis should quiet his critics, but the unfortunate truth is most of the public will probably never hear about this analysis and life will go on...

    There was an interview several years back where Mr. Armstrong said that he said the word *A* during his famous radio transmission from the moon. Someone could try Voice Stress Analysis on that interview to determine if he is lying or telling the truth, to verify the results of this analysis. =)


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  9. The other sounds better -- it's iambic. by Etherwalk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The last foot in the first half sounds better without the `a.' I tried posting the scansion, but the lameness filter found that too dorky. =)

    1. Re:The other sounds better -- it's iambic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Absolutely true. And there's also no reason why there needs to be an "a" in there anyway. It still makes complete sense the way it has come down through the ages: "One small step for Man; one giant leap for Mankind". "One small step for a man; one giant leap for Mankind" sounds awkward and trite. "Man" in this context stands in for the human animal; "Mankind" for human society.

    2. Re:The other sounds better -- it's iambic. by jspoon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This way makes a lot more sense though. Without the indefinite article, man and mankind are more or less synonymous.

  10. What he really said: by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually he said:

    "Ah shit! I pissed my pants!"

    because he was so nervous. Remember, he is an engineer, not a spokesman. But it was covered up.

    1. Re:What he really said: by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I would be pretty nervous to. Who hasn't had something come out wrong, when they were making a presentation,

      Indeed. If they sent me, it probably would have gone down something like this:

      That's one sman, uh, that's one step for a small man, I mean one man for a small, I mean one step on a small, I mean one man is a small....Oh fuck! People of Earth, I'm on the goddam fucking moon, okay? And, hey, fuck those ruskies, eh?

  11. I see wide ranging aplications... by ShagratTheTitleless · · Score: 3, Funny

    The time is ripe for Slashdot editors to try and convince us that duplicate stories were the result of communications echoes.

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  12. NASA Alzheimers by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    First NASA loses Apollo TV master tapes, and now it loses pronouns. At this rate it will lose a planet within a decade such that we'll have only 8.

    1. Re:NASA Alzheimers by gardyloo · · Score: 2, Funny

      From your diagram, it looks like NASA has just found the 9th planet again.

  13. Yes... by NoseBag · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...I read it somewhere a long time ago and been telling folks this for years - whenever the subject came up.

    Now that its been officially reported in /., I can triumphantly wave the printout in peoples' faces and scream, "See! This proves it! Its right here in.....uh...uh..."

    Hmm. Never mind.

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  14. The Straight Dope by aktzin · · Score: 4, Funny
    This story reminded me of a "Straight Dope" article I read years ago regarding something Armstrong allegedly mumbled right after his famous first words on the moon:

    http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a951117.html

    While searching for this in the web site's archives I also found an entry from 1990 discussing the "small step for a man" argument:

    http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_362.html

    My parents tell me that I actually saw the moon landing, but since I was a baby at the time I really can't comment on what I heard him say.
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  15. Tranquility base by trewornan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Weren't the first words spoken on the lunar surface:

    "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed."

    I always prefer it anyway - it doesn't sound like some crap written by a PR wanker.

  16. I always liked what Pete Conrad said... by sbaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    On Apollo 12:

        "Whoopie! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but that's a long one for me." -- Pete Conrad

    On Apollo 14:

        "It's been a long way, but we're here." - Alan Shepard

    Hmmmm - not *quite* so memorable.

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  17. Government vs. commercial by whyde · · Score: 4, Funny

    All I can say is thank goodness the first person on the moon wasn't put there by a commercial entity. I'm sure the first words would have been something like, "That's one small step for a man, but a Taco Bell Gordito(tm) is much bigger!"

    Either that, or some other government making a political sound bite that promotes a specific ideology or theology instead of something referencing the accomplishments of mankind in general, would have been equally disturbing.

    I'm really proud that the folks at NASA took time to plan what would be said, realizing that it would be a historic moment.

    1. Re:Government vs. commercial by Jugalator · · Score: 2, Funny

      All I can say is thank goodness the first person on the moon wasn't put there by a commercial entity. I'm sure the first words would have been something like, "That's one small step for a man, but a Taco Bell Gordito(tm) is much bigger!"

      Hehe, or "Funding this space program... Billions of your tax dollars... Me walking on the moon... Priceless!" ;-)

      I wonder how many that would have upset, heh.

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    2. Re:Government vs. commercial by windowpain · · Score: 4, Funny

      The comedian Robert Klein actually did a bit about this. How Armstrong could have made a fortune by selling out before he left Earth and then saying, "COCA-COLA!" as he put his foot out on the moon.

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    3. Re:Government vs. commercial by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Funny
      All I can say is thank goodness the first person on the moon wasn't put there by a commercial entity.

      Or worse...

      "This one small step is made possible by the new Nike Space Jordans. For this lunar cycle only, save 10% off at any major footwear retailer! Over."

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    4. Re:Government vs. commercial by Toxicgonzo · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least he stuck to the quote. We all know if he had it his way he'd have been like

      "**** YEAH! I'm on the moon BITCHES!"

    5. Re:Government vs. commercial by aramael · · Score: 2, Funny

      I liked the alleged Michael Collins suggestion: "If you had any balls, you'd say 'Oh, my God, what is that thing?' then scream and cut your mic."

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  18. If it happened to day by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny
    If it happened today, an illegal alien would have stowed aboard, pushed Neil aside, and said it in Spanish:

    Ése es un paso pequeño para un hombre, un salto gigante para la humanidad.
  19. reverse talk by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A quick sidetrip - Listen to the reverse audio of his words -

    Man will spacewalk

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  20. Just an analyst? by bherman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I read this story and wondered a bit about the guy who was involved. Saying he's "a computer analyst" is like saying Bush is just a little slow.

    His work is pretty cool http://www.shann-ford.com/001%20programming.htm

    Oh and he's also a jounalist.

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  21. Greedo by SeaFox · · Score: 5, Funny
    Well, I am glad that's finally sorted

    Yup, the Moon spoke first! No, wait...
    1. Re:Greedo by Linker3000 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Allegedly, some grumpy old lunar citizen shouted 'get that damn contraption off my lawn!'

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  22. According to the HBO miniseries... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 4, Funny

    "From the Earth to the Moon", command module pilot Mike Collins suggested that if Neil "...had any guts, you would say "What the hell is that?!", then scream and cut your mike." :)

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    1. Re:According to the HBO miniseries... by Aqualung812 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The line from the movie was "If you had any balls, you'd say "Oh, my God, what is that thing?" then scream and cut your mike".

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120570/quotes

      The part about Collins jokingly saying Armstrong had no balls always gave me a chuckle. :)

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  23. It would have been funnier if it was 'the' instead by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    One giant step for 'the' man, one giant leap for mankind.

  24. Ingrained Quotes. by camperdave · · Score: 3, Informative

    You're right. "One small step for man" will be remembered, just like "Beam me up, Scotty", and "Play it again, Sam".

    However, I just listened to it, and here's my take:
    Armstrong has the "One small step" speach properly memorized and ready to go. He knows he has to do it right, because it will be broadcast live to the entire planet. He describes the lunar surface, then steps off the landing pad, and says, "That's one small step for man... One..." Damn! I goofed. "giant leap for mankind".

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  25. Re:*Ahem* (underrated moderation) by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah.. that's the only to get moderated +5 troll... One moderation for troll followed by 4 'underrated' moderations.

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  26. Re:Ingrained Quotes, and hearing what you think by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nope, it's a noisy channel, and good ol' midwest boy that Neil is, he slurs it a litte:

    "That's one small step f'r a man" etc. And then Walter Cronkite tells everybody he said "for man", and everyone believes it.

    If the channel is slightly noisy, you can "hear" whatever you think you're going to hear in it. Consider how often people misperceive song lyrics into something totally different. Once Cronkite told them that - and it hit the headlines that way - that's what people think they hear. Try hearing it as "step f'ra man".

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  27. Han by SeaFox · · Score: 4, Funny
    No, wait...

    Armstrong desended the ladder and was about to step on the surface when it was Aldrin that spoke first...

    "Wait, Neil! That's no moon..."
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    (I know it's not kosher to reply to yourself but I accidentally set this set up with the "No, wait...")
  28. I read the story, it makes absolutely no sense by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can someone else tell me where exactly the 'a' went? Glitches in analog equipment don't just drop 'a's without an obvious gap.

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  29. His REAL first words by Spackler · · Score: 4, Funny

    In 1972, Armstrong cleared up his first words were actually:

    Holy Shit! I'm on the fscking moon!

  30. Re:The mistake was by Shakrai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    People laugh at that now, but maybe in a few centuries people will wonder why this mentality persisted for so long.

    Which mentality is that? The presumably sexist mentality or the mentality that takes a simple quote out of context?

    It's a mistake to judge the past by the standards of today.

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