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Administration Ignored Bin Laden Intel
gettin-bored noted a nice article running in very high priority on the Washington Post, right up there on page 17 of the print edition, where it's revealed that the CIA Director warned Rice about Bin Laden two months before 9/11. And strangely, the meeting was never mentioned during all the 9/11 commission reports making you really question what exactly they were actually hearing that was more important than the CIA director telling the National Security Advisor that Bin Laden was going to attack Americans.
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
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Where were you when the voynix came?
Ok, add in Pearl Harbor, Trojan horse etc as this is not a new theme.
I guess the Washington Post is now just another cheap tabloid as there is really no news here. Does it mean they really knew anything at all?
I predict:
All of the above are near certian or occur.
Unfortunately you need details, all of who, what, when, how and where. A person is not culpable unless you know the details or can reasonably get them.
The biggest flaw I have with the current administration is how on this planet can Bin Laden hide and live for so long.
As I've addressed this before, I'm going to copy and (mostly) pasta:
He did? Is this about that guy from the Sudan who offered bin Laden to the US in 1996, which turned out not to be credible?
'Cause that 9/11 commission report states "[F]ormer Sudanese officials claim that Sudan offered to expel Bin Ladin to the United States." Which looks pretty definite. Except it continues, "Clinton administration officials deny ever receiving such an offer. We have not found any reliable evidence to support the Sudanese claim."
Which, of course, does't cut any ice with you, does it? How faith-based.
Laws do not persuade just because they threaten. --Seneca
I think that stage 7 came early here--"B-b-but Clinton!" has been a Republican mainstay since Bush's first problem in office!
Please, for the good of Humanity, vote Obama.
If I had mod points, I'd mod up the grandparent, and mod down your whining post. Don't whine about how you've been modded. It's gayer than finding a man wedged between your cheeks.
It's been a long time.
Well, so at least one conservative is up on his logic, and, I must say that there must be something strange going on when those who substitute name-calling (of Busy, Cheney, Rice, MSFT, etc.) for an actual argument are simply posting a subtle ad-hominem dig. That is a fallacy, and yet gets a +5 Interesting/Insightful often enough and sometimes the +5 Informative.
/. seems a little like pissing in the wind and thus it's often easier to complain than to waste one's time with writing up anything eloquent and having it modded -1 "Not Liberal".
I mean with all the colleges that are known to be bastions of liberalism (well, at least anti-conservative to a pretty extreme degree) and the large number of large cities centered around these (re)education centers of learning, it is really quite interesting that there still is so much Red in the USA.
Of course, that just opens up the pundits to proclaim a few more ad hominem fallacies and paint with a broad brush-stroke the conservative thinkers as dumb idiots because they have fewer college degrees. Of course, if getting married and having 3 children were to count for anything in terms of life experience and acquisition of wisdom, then those with college degrees are the stupid ones. Furthermore, it is easy to get paid pretty well to sit in an ivory tower of "learning" and criticize the world and present grandiose ideas, and quite another to live in the real world with a spouse and children and have to work hard through it all.
Oh, and before people line up and label me an average idiot, let me just mention I have a BS and MS degree at age 24, and I am not married and have no children (and thus not tooting my own horn on the marriage/children thing). I had a minor in college in Philosophy and yet lamented that my school stopped teaching and started with propaganda disguised as "discussion". Ironically, my religious classical-focused high school education in Logic, Latin, Rhetoric, Literature and Philosophy taught me more about cogent and fallacious arguments in a 7th-grade Logic course than I learned in my 400-level college course. Furthermore, I covered more and learned more about philosophy in 11th/12th grades than I did in my entire minor.
However, trying to post "conservative drivel" on
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What proportion of Iraq Civilian deaths were from Al-Qaeda suicide bombers, roadside boms, marketplace bombs, and other Al-Qaeda led attacks? You (an American Liberal) are again using defeatism and trying to point the finger of blame back at America. I just find it unimaginable, but you say it every day ... "Oh, even though Al-Qaeda pulled the trigger, America is to blame." Why do you give leniency to murderers, thugs, and bombers, but show no remorse and don't have a second thought about putting down your own countrymen?
And I support the troops as many of my family members are serving in the middle east. We're poor. You're probably not and probably can't name 10 people serving
My wife and I struggle to pay our heating and gas bills just like most of rural Wisconsin. I know 4 relatives / close friends in the Middle East right now. And I know there are many many more serving from my community, that I just don't happen to know personally. You do realize that you are mimicing the liberals right now? You cannot discuss the true issues without resorting to smear tactics and off-topic negative discussions.
The decision to attack was based upon economics, despite what the administration said leading up to the war
I couldn't disagree more. Look at your 2 choices right now, Liberals and Conservatives, and tell me who you think is more dedicated and determined to protect America? Is is the cut & run, let's hold peace talks, let's create sanctions, don't touch our phones even if it means catching terrorists, let's treat our Al-Qaeda prisoners farely liberals? Or is it the tough nosed, stay the course, intercept terrorist phone call, rough up our enemies during interrogation conservatives? The choice is easy.