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Warrantless Surveillance To Continue For Now

NormalVisual writes "It appears that the unconstitutional and controversial warrantless surveillance program being conducted by the Bush Administration can continue until an appeals court can hear the case, according to an AP article. The 6th Circuit ruled that while the lower court had ruled the program was unconstitutional, they felt that the case's chances before the appeals court and the possible danger to national security warranted their decision to let it continue despite the likelihood that the appeal process will take months."

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  1. Only In America... by flight_master · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Does the government know what you eat, when you sleep, what you read, work on, and even what pr0n you look at... But no, seriously - For a country as firmly rooted in "free speech", "freedom of expression" and "freedom of thought" - this really is pathetic.
    Just get rid of the Republicans already!

    Sincerely, A Concerned Canadian

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  2. Re:Don't leave things out by Kohath · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    They're not "afraid" to mention it because it weakens their argument. It's just a dumb way to argue a point. You don't lead with weakness.

    But you're correct to point out that the summary is completely one-sided to the point of being intentionally deceptive. It's makes the point deceptively, but with no weaknesses that might be evident in a less deceptive summary. It's the new mainstream mode of political communication and news reporting.

    Deception is ok as long as "the good people" win the election, isn't it?

  3. All Hail The LIb's and the Antique Media by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I find it absolutely amazing that the only posts that have any points into them are the Lib views. None of them state the fact that this is a FOREIGN survelence program. We aren't listening to granny calling her daughter or you Lib's calling PeTA to donate money. They are listening into the converstaions of calls originating in the US to known AlQueda numbers and vise versa.

    And yes, trying to shut this down, especially the ACLU going forum shopping to the 6th district (which incidently, only made it illegal in that district, not the rest of the country) is putting this country in danger. Do you really want to shut down all the manners we have in which to protect this country from another 9/11? We are at war with a group of "people" that want us dead because we are not them. They don't care whether or not some assholes in Berkley held a vigle for them after the towers fell, they don't care that you Lib's want to cut and run from Iraq; they want us *all* dead. It is the highest calling of their twisted form of Islam that kiling us gets them salvation. You cannot negotiate with that. You must find them and kill them before they find us and kill us. I call your actions dangerous, unpatriotic, and deadly to the very fabric of this country and all the free societies of the world.

    And a side note to one of the posters above re the disgraced Rep.: a) The IM's are now shown to be a prank by the Pages to the Senator, b) The person in question was 18 at the time; therefore it is NOT pedofelia, c) I thought the Lib's were all for gay rights.. why are you jumping all over this man?

  4. Re:hmm... by Darby · · Score: -1, Flamebait


    Saying they are controversial is acceptable, prejudging that they are unconstitutional is opinion.


    Do us all a favor and go read the fucking constitution. This is not a complex issue requiring deliberation. It is spelled out directly in the fourth amendment that they absolutely positively under no circumstances whatsoever can do this.

    Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick how did you ever get out of high school without knowing this shit?!?

  5. Re:hmm... by Darby · · Score: 0, Flamebait


    It is curious that someone who has a sig that advocates killing someone with a different political ideology wants to lecture the rest of us on treason.


    The fact that you would even make such a ridiculous statement shows your lack of basic reading comprehension coupled with a deep ignorance of current events.

    Political ideology has nothing to do with active support for multiple repeated acts of treason.

    When a group of people actively conspire to make it legal for my own government to drag me away to a third world shithole to be tortured to death with no recourse to the law, then that is a direct, unprovoked act of aggression against me, you, and everybody else in the world.
    My sig quite clearly and obviously advocates nothing but completely justified acts of self defense of my person and my nation.

    Where the fuck did you get the ridiculous idea that it has anything to do with ideology?

  6. Oh, please. by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Firstly, do you have the same security clearance of the Senate Intelligence Comittee members or of the President? If not, you won't see the evidence for which you're looking for another 50 or so years.
    Oh, please. We heard this same crap when the war drums were beating for Iraq. Sure, the evidence looks shaky at best, but you don't have the super duper convincing intelligence that the decision-makers do! Which turned out to be nothing, of course. You'll pardon me if I'm a bit skeptical when someone claims that if only I knew this information which I conveniently can't know for the next fifty years, everything would make sense to me.

    Congress was informed and they deemed it OK. Only after it was revealed in an illegal leak of classified information and contorted by the Media did it become a probelm.
    Congress deemed this okay? Since when? Congress was never asked for their okay. They were notified. What were they supposed to do about it, write secret notes to themselves expressing their disapproval?

    What, precisely, did the media "contort"? If anything, they've been more than kind enough. Did you know that there's an executive order prohibiting the use of security classification in order to hide lawbreaking? You wouldn't know it, listening to the news.
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