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20 Tech Ideas VCs Want to Fund

An anonymous reader writes "CNNMoney reports on the top 20 technology ideas that our beloved VCs want to throw money at. Are these the brilliant ideas that will change the world (and make you rich in the process)?" From the article: "Delivery of new types of Web search to mobile phones. Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo are all taking a swipe at this, but Rimer believes they're betting on a losing strategy by simply shrinking their existing desktop features into a handheld package. He says he's willing to invest in new search applications that, for example, depend as much on voice recognition as on text input and would offer up everything from shopping and news headlines to driving directions and restaurant reviews with a few voice commands and keystrokes ... What he'll invest: $2 million for a working demo application."

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  1. Limited in scope and vision... by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The thing about all of these ideas is that they are not really very interesting or innovative. No slam on any of the VCs involved here (particularly the Draper Fisher Jurvetson folks as they are top notch), but these ideas are all about derived markets and products. It seems that the VC world has gotten lots more conservative over the past five years or so and they are looking at giving larger amounts of money to easier/simpler concepts rather than encouraging real cutting edge research.

    This of course is a major problem as the US has historically relied upon federal funding to help develop the real cutting edge stuff, yet federal funding for basic science research is being cut dramatically in favor of applied research. So, we now run the risk of losing out on our technological advantage from both traditional government funding and now private funding. (notable exceptions for a number of philanthropists such as Paul Allen, Bill Gates, John Moran and others).

    It's harder for VCs to find basic science research projects that have a significant payoff, but the projects are out there. We're banking on our technology and approaches to an area of bioscience and metabolomics to pay off in a variety of spaces from agronomics to medicine, drug development, defense and nutrition among many other applications, but I've found most VCs to be remarkably limited in their approach preferring to focus only on the short term, 1-3 years, rather than the 5-6 necessary for many projects. Its an old story, but focusing on the short term is a good business model where you invest 50% of the capital (or less) for 70-80% of the profits only after 80% of the work has been done. Unfortunately, you miss out on prospects for real impact by focusing on the next marketing tool rather than the next disease cure.

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    1. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by also-rr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quite often the best business ideas (as in, the basis for a business that makes money) are evolutionary, not revolutionary. It's a worthy goal to take the state of the art and add something that just makes it better.

      Think how much Linux is benefiting from things like desktop interface improvements - it's not cutting edge amazing ideas, but it does have value. The same thing applies in business.

      Really the right place for basic research is in the public domain where the stakes are high and the rewards few and far between. It makes the search for groundbreaking ideas more efficient because people can trade information with no fear or losing out on millions.

      This also means that the basic research is then available to businesses who can add *their* value in turning it into something usable for the rest of us... along with another bunch of businesses ensuring that competition brings it's benefits to bear. To look back at the Linux analogy, this is essentially how we are seeing the Open Source model turn out high quality at low cost - the research is all public, and the refinements to make it accessable are driven by people who want to sell it.

    2. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by bunions · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This of course is a major problem as the US has historically relied upon federal funding to help develop the real cutting edge stuff, yet federal funding for basic science research is being cut dramatically in favor of applied research. So, we now run the risk of losing out on our technological advantage from both traditional government funding and now private funding.


      You are 100% correct. Just a nit to pick: it's not just the US - it's everyone. Profit-driven business are - generally - too constrained by the need to increase shareholder value RIGHT NOW to take on large, speculative research projects, so it falls to governments to spur advances in this sector.

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    3. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1

      I disagree. VCs want to back an idea that has a reasonable chance of success, and a better than reasonable chance of getting a return on their investment. Some of the ideas might be "obvious" but then again no one has pulled them off yet. Thats what they are looking for - the right management team with the right product and the right customers at the right place and right time.

    4. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1
      Think how much Linux is benefiting from things like desktop interface improvements - it's not cutting edge amazing ideas, but it does have value
      Yes, but I think the point the OP is trying to make is that revolutionary ideas are needed in order for the evolutionary ones to take place. Someone has to invent something totally new before 100 people can take that idea and improve upon it.

      In keeping with your analogy of the operating system... If nobody wants to support the guy who, instead of just improving upon existing user interface conventions, wants to radically change the way we use computers, he might have a hard time getting funded. That means that there are some great ideas that never see the light of day. I guess this has always been the case, but it seems increasingly like economics tower over to need to do research for the sake of research and innovation is as a result stifled.
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    5. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0
      It seems that the VC world has gotten lots more conservative over the past five years or so and they are looking at giving larger amounts of money to easier/simpler concepts
      In other words, they've become ordinary (as in *not* venture) capitalists. Probably an age thing.
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    6. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by also-rr · · Score: 1

      In keeping with your analogy of the operating system... If nobody wants to support the guy who, instead of just improving upon existing user interface conventions, wants to radically change the way we use computers, he might have a hard time getting funded.

      And so he should. The reward is probably limited and the risk is enourmous, plus if fundamental changes are discovered then it's better for everyone if it's in the public domain.

      This kind of thing should be done via university/academic funding or public support for innovations (by buying basic research and putting it into the public domain). It's one area where your tax dollars, pounds, yen or heshibean half dong would actually have a beneficial effect on the economy and everyone's quality of life.

    7. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by BWJones · · Score: 1

      It's a worthy goal to take the state of the art and add something that just makes it better.

      Which is exactly what we are doing, by taking technology from a variety of sources (computer science, remote sensing, immunology, organic chemistry, physical chemistry, optics and mechanics) and making something of it that tells us more about biology and biological processes.

      Really the right place for basic research is in the public domain where the stakes are high and the rewards few and far between. It makes the search for groundbreaking ideas more efficient because people can trade information with no fear or losing out on millions.

      Oh, I agree and very much prefer the openness and free disclosure of information. However, we have a current US Presidential administration that is making it harder for basic scientists (especially in the biosciences) to make a living by cutting funding (the likelyhood that an NIH funded scientist will get a grant has gone from 33% to 14% in the last five years), so I need to start thinking about how make some money if traditional resources are being tapped out.

      This also means that the basic research is then available to businesses who can add *their* value in turning it into something usable for the rest of us... along with another bunch of businesses ensuring that competition brings it's benefits to bear.

      And this is historically how technological progress has been traditionally made in science and industry. The problem is that for the last five or so years, science, technology and education have taken a back seat here in the US, setting us back considerably in research and development.

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    8. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by kfg · · Score: 1

      And venture capitalists are supposed to be the people filling the niche between the two; using surplus private money to gamble on long shots that'll pay off big if they hit.

      Corporations did not invent venture capital. Corporations were invented by venture capitalists to defray the risks of the riskiest ventures.

      Then they learned that markets in paper can be manipulated to make money without doing a damned thing at all but selling paper and got all conservative.

      KFG

    9. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by dpilot · · Score: 1

      Some time back, I believe it was Cringely who criticized VCs for not doing their job. In his opinion, once upon a time, VCs would fund 10 ideas hoping for 1 or 2 things that did fairly well, 1 real winner, and accept 7 dogs. They don't want to accept the dogs any more, and in clipping out the dogs are very likely to be clipping out the real winner, as well.

      If they were betting on a sure (or nearly sure) thing, they'd be ordinary investors instead of VCs.

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    10. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1

      heh heh...you said "dong"

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    11. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Thats what they are looking for - the right management team with the right product and the right customers at the right place and right time.

      Sure, and I am all for this. The only problem is that since so many of them are focused on the very short term, they miss the larger picture (and larger profits). For example, I recently met with a VC group and the first thing they started doing was trying to figure out how to profit *immediately* by breaking the technology up into little bits that they could then sell off individually. What they did not understand (or care about) was how everything worked together to create an environment where you could do more. We therefore decided to take a different approach and do even more of the work ourselves which will take a bit longer, but we will not have to worry about pressure or distractions.

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    12. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      OR to put it another way, we all stand on the shoulders of midgets.

    13. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by cultrhetor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Marketing matters: witness the dotMobi top-level idea. So far they have BMW, Rolls-Royce, CNN Money, and a number of others. If you take a look at the sites (see http://kicker.mobi/ for an example), they're nothing more than standard html reformatted to look normal on a mobile phone. Why not use a simple @media command? Because marketing to the money men is how you get funded. Simplistic ventures that capitalize on a branding mechanism, with little real innovation behind them, will return quite handsomely. We occasionally find investors willing to burn money by investing in a science/tech project that might pay off in the end, but they'll usually go for the safer bet.

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    14. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by bunions · · Score: 1

      Venture capitalists have never and will never fund a very large-scale research operation such as a supercollider or hot fusion research. That's what I'm talking about.

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    15. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by NSIM · · Score: 1

      My experience of VCs is that they are definitely more conservative before than before the nuclear winter post-2000. But that's because an awful lot of VCs got really badly burned by the type of funding deals they did in the boom years. So yes they are more conservative, but in my experience they are conservative across the board, not just with more exotic ideas. Back in the day companies did $50-60M rounds quite frequently, today I would say that $15M is big funding round.

    16. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Of course not, but they will throw in to SpaceShipOne, which is what I'm talking about.

      KFG

    17. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or did anyone else get the feeling that these guys just want in essence, free money? All of the projects in the list would require MASSIVE ammounts of captial to begin with to get to them to the point that they would even look at them. By the time they'd put up money for your project you either have the cash needed or your going to fail anyways. The only people who would really benifit from these people are those with a product they themselves don't see selling verry well and just want money. Not to mention the ammount of money they are all willing to put up for the most part wouldn't cover operateing costs very long for the kind of projects they are talking about. I'm dealing with getting a startup going right now and a million bucks in VC really doesn't get you very far.

    18. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by bunions · · Score: 1

      Sure, after government funding has paved the way in space exploration.

      > And venture capitalists are supposed to be the people filling the niche between the two [...]

      They fill -a- niche, but it's not necessarily between the gov't and corporate funding. I'd venture (ha!) a guess that large corporate interests pay for lots more basic research than VCs.

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    19. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by kfg · · Score: 1

      Sure, after government funding has paved the way in space exploration.

      http://libref.clarku.edu/research/archives/goddard /faqs.cfm#question16

      I'd venture (ha!) a guess that large corporate interests pay for lots more basic research than VCs.

      Seeing as they're most often the small end of the funnel for government money.

      KFG

    20. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by bunions · · Score: 1

      > Seeing as they're most often the small end of the funnel for government money.

      That's a good point.

      As for Goddard, well ... there's kind of a big leap between Goddards work and placing humans in orbit.

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    21. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by kfg · · Score: 1

      ... there's kind of a big leap between Goddards work and placing humans in orbit.

      Call me back when Scaled Composites manages it. :)

      KFG

    22. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      Um, I've read your post from start to finish , but I still don't get why the Viet Cong want to get into tech :|

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    23. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by mochan_s · · Score: 1

      The thing about all of these ideas is that they are not really very interesting or innovative. No slam on any of the VCs involved here (particularly the Draper Fisher Jurvetson folks as they are top notch), but these ideas are all about derived markets and products. It seems that the VC world has gotten lots more conservative over the past five years or so and they are looking at giving larger amounts of money to easier/simpler concepts rather than encouraging real cutting edge research.

      Like in number theory, just because a problem can be stated simply does not mean it can be easily solved.

      This of course is a major problem as the US has historically relied upon federal funding to help develop the real cutting edge stuff, yet federal funding for basic science research is being cut dramatically in favor of applied research. So, we now run the risk of losing out on our technological advantage from both traditional government funding and now private funding. (notable exceptions for a number of philanthropists such as Paul Allen, Bill Gates, John Moran and others).

      So, the cause and solution to the problem is money?

      It's harder for VCs to find basic science research projects that have a significant payoff, but the projects are out there. We're banking on our technology and approaches to an area of bioscience and metabolomics to pay off in a variety of spaces from agronomics to medicine, drug development, defense and nutrition among many other applications, but I've found most VCs to be remarkably limited in their approach preferring to focus only on the short term, 1-3 years, rather than the 5-6 necessary for many projects. Its an old story, but focusing on the short term is a good business model where you invest 50% of the capital (or less) for 70-80% of the profits only after 80% of the work has been done. Unfortunately, you miss out on prospects for real impact by focusing on the next marketing tool rather than the next disease cure.

      Also, it is harder to find a NSF grant on a trivial use of an existing idea. I don't know why you would even wish VCs had so much control over basic science research.

    24. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Personally, I'd like to see some geniuses take the open source 3D modeling software BRL-CAD and build it into a giant-killer.

      The (non-software) engineering world has been fragmented by differing, non-interchangeable data formats over the past 30 years. This hurts not only the end owners of the files but also those who wish to learn or obtain employment in the field (eg, "good designer but no knowledge of program X that *we* use? Sorry")

    25. Re:Limited in scope and vision... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My experience with Venture capitalist has been they are not very interested in good business ideas. What they want is a company with a good "liquidity event". That is they want to go public with a good story, or sell to a Google or similar company. This makes sense, as their time horizons seem to be about 50ns.

      If you want to grow a company with real value, find other investors or boostrap.

  2. That's retarded! by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful
    A driver's tech fantasy fully realized: an in-dash computer with a keyboard built into the steering wheel and a full-screen heads-up display projected on the windshield.

    So drivers can read email while driving.

    That's just fucking retarded. People have trouble driving while "reading" the road and traffic conditions. Why split their concentration any more?
    1. Re:That's retarded! by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      You've never driven on the M25, have you?

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    2. Re:That's retarded! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The 2006 Hondas have built in voice commands. I can control mapping, audio controls, temperator controls, etc. all by pressing a button on my steering wheel. Its very convenient and safe.

      Of course, its the first iteration for the mass market, so its not perfect yet. Another iteration or two and it will be, and then just needing to become popular enough to have devices plug in to add support for their own commands.

    3. Re:That's retarded! by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just think, all we'd really need is a third hand to help out while driving and surfing the web for porn.

    4. Re:That's retarded! by vertinox · · Score: 1

      That's just fucking retarded. People have trouble driving while "reading" the road and traffic conditions. Why split their concentration any more?

      Of course if we get a winner at DARPA Urban Grand Challenge 2007, this might be a moot point by 2015 when most new cars have their own automated driving systems.

      Of course this would make the inboard dash device a pointless thing because if you don't need to pay attention to driving then you could just use a regular laptop on the road.

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    5. Re:That's retarded! by aplusjimages · · Score: 1

      Don't forget as they are reading their email while driving they will get a call from the starbucks, arbys, best buy, and wal-mart that they just passed. These stores will occupy more of his concentration with ads and coupons. God I hope the cell phone ads don't take off. I can already predict it will be a pain in the ass and everyone will complain about it.

      It may have one advantage though. Maybe people would stop bringing their cellphones with them to places like the movies.

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    6. Re:That's retarded! by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0

      I'm a motie, you insensitive clod!

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    7. Re:That's retarded! by Sloppy · · Score: 1
      Why split their concentration any more?

      You can't split their concentration -- it's already split. They're going to do this stupid shit whether you think it's a good idea or not. They already do.

      The question is: do you want their concentration to be split between the road and something superimposed on the road, or between the road and a little screen in their hand? It's going to happen, so you might as well minimize the suckage.

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    8. Re:That's retarded! by fragmentate · · Score: 1

      Just think, all we'd really need is a third hand to help out while driving and surfing the web for porn.

      You may just get what you want.

    9. Re:That's retarded! by Teppic_52 · · Score: 1

      I've never met anyone on the M25 that I would say has the capacity to 'drive', even when the road allows for it.
      So using this argument, I would say no one has ever really driven on the M25, just a close approximation.

    10. Re:That's retarded! by online-shopper · · Score: 1

      That's why I have a wife, no need for porn *or* a third hand as she fills both roles.

  3. Dont uhh you need internet..? by joshetc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't you need internet access on your cell phone before mobile search engines hit it big? In which case there would need to be almost nothing different than current websites. Maybe they should focus on getting decent broadband to mobile phones in the area of $20 a month before worrying about super-duper mobile phone websites. Otherwise nobody will use the websites....

    1. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Every major provider in US (Cingular, Verizon, Sprint/Nextel, T-Mobile) offers Internet access on phones, and most of these providers offer broadband connectivity already. The remaining ones plan to launch it within months. Not many people use it because, well, content is mediocre.

    2. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 1

      Even if you do need the internet for this, which some other posters have pointed out that you might not, you have to consider that starting a project at this point it may only be ready in a couple of years from now. At that point internet access on a phone could be common/fast/cheap.

    3. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by peragrin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well it's not so much content that's mediocre but the price. a basic data plan from cingular will set you back $20 a month. That's just for data and on top of your regular phone bill. I have always wanted to hook my cell phone up to my laptop for quicky net access, but there is no way in hell I am paying that much three times for occasional net access. Once for your land connection, once for your mobile phone and once again for your datalink over the mobile phone.

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    4. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by owlnation · · Score: 1

      and you forgot to mention that it is slow, unreliable, expensive and the screens too small.

    5. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by Nef · · Score: 1

      Speaking from personal experience, at least with Cingular. You CANNOT do this without getting absurd charges. I own a Motorola SLVR and purchased PhoneTools from Motorola for just this purpose. I hooked up the phone, started up PhoneTools and established an internet connection with the click of a button.

      Cool right? No, not really, as even though I already pay the 19.95 a month for unlimited MediaNet access (WAP content only), I was billed at the HiSpeed rate of $0.10/KB. Just a few minutes of casual browsing, email checking etc. racked up a $30 "Additional Usage Charge".

      If you truly want to use your phone as a modem for your laptop, they'll let you do so for the low-low price of $79.95/month!!! Talk about your scams...

      And to make this all the more laughable, if you 'abuse' your 'unlimited' HiSpeed, they'll shut you off completely without warning!

    6. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      Maybe they should focus on getting decent broadband to mobile phones in the area of $20 a month before worrying about super-duper mobile phone websites.

      $20 a month? Are you kidding me? Don't you have free WiFi most anywhere you go?

      T-Mobile's SDA and MDA smartphones both have WiFi connectivity (as well as EDGE, if you choose to pay $30/month for it).

    7. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use sprint.

      I have unlimited broadband (about 1mbit per second on my 1 hour train commute) for $15 month.

      Service is good and fast and it works well.

      I can even connect the phone to my laptop and play WoW sitting in the passenger seat of a car on the freeway.

  4. Incomplete List by stonefry · · Score: 2, Funny

    I want my flying car.

    1. Re:Incomplete List by BlueShirt · · Score: 1
      I agree. I also want the promised:

      paperless office

      three-day work week

      house under water (although I have come close to this)

    2. Re:Incomplete List by fyngyrz · · Score: 1
      house under water (although I have come close to this)

      You know that little drain plug in the back of your boat? You're supposed to put that in before you put the boat in the water. Just a tip, don't bother to thank me.

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    3. Re:Incomplete List by chill · · Score: 1

      Flying cars would be a great -- for thinning the population. Have you seen how people drive? Think how it would be with gravity and no true brake.

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  5. A new database? by mspohr · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Whoopee! This is really cutting edge. We already have more different shapes and sizes of databases (many of them free) than we could possibly use.

    Hot tip to VC... if you really want to do something with a database, pick one of the existing "flyweight" OS databases and put together a sales and support organization... don't reinvent the wheel.

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    1. Re:A new database? by astapleton · · Score: 1

      *laughing hard* No kidding! Adding capital and effort to expanding and improving an existing product that shows real potential means you're likely to get SOME return on the investment, even if it doesn't take off like a runaway rocket.

      Investing cash to recreate the same product with a different name is asking for trouble unless the designer(s) involved have a proven track record (like multi-millions worth of track record)...which is pointless if said designer(s) are already successful because they don't need the money anyway. Which brings you back to investing in an existing product with potential. *logically following the hamster in the wheel in my head*

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    2. Re:A new database? by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      I think there's still plenty of room for innovation in databases, even databases that are still fundamentally relational (replacing SQL with a real functional language would be a huge gain, for one). The VC doesn't seem to want innovative, though, just cheap.

    3. Re:A new database? by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1

      Well, doc, I guess I am replying to all of your posts today.

      Better than SQL? I dare you to try. I wish more languages were as simple and powerful as SQL. Seriously here.

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    4. Re:A new database? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1
      We already have more different shapes and sizes of databases (many of them free) than we could possibly use.

      I agree. The VC should go toward buying out all these implementations and leaving only one option to dominate the market.

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    5. Re:A new database? by mspohr · · Score: 1
      How do you buy out an open source project? ;)

      Seriously, it would be good to have a professional sales and support organization for one of these databases... although you could argue that MySQL and Postgre (and ? others) DO have good support organizations.

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    6. Re:A new database? by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping to get a chance to try, but it's a pretty big job. I was thinking it might end up as a master's thesis project or something.

      My basic problems with SQL:
      Poor aliasing rules: I frequently have to repeat a bunch of code from the SELECT clause in the WHERE, GROUP BY, and/or ORDER BY clauses because aliases declared in the SELECT aren't visible in the others. A single ALIAS clause (or maybe one for table names and one for fields) that all the rest used would be much better.

      No support for multi-stage aliases: I can't do "SELECT PreviousBalance-Payments-Credits As BalanceForward, BalanceForward+CurrentCharges As TotalDue".

      Named clauses, but they're still order-sensitive.

      Lousy insert syntax. The data I want to insert is in an entirely different clause from where I want to put it, and I have to count the fields to make them line up.

      It ignores useful information available to it. If TableA.B_ID References TableB(B_ID), I shouldn't need to specify *how* to join them.

      "Select Field1 From Table1 Join Table2 On Table1.Field1 = Table2.Field1" shouldn't complain that Field1 is ambiguous in the SELECT; they're the same values.

      SELECT is a verb. Because of this, the subquery syntax specifies an implementation. This isn't usually a terribly good implementation, and the optimizers normally ignore it, but it's confusing when you're trying to predict performance.

    7. Re:A new database? by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1

      I see what you mean. I definitely have my own list of annoyances with SQL. I think a lot of the things you pointed out, while certainly valid, are really just that, annoyances. That said, of course, I too find it a bit odd to have to repeat the same expressions with a query. It almost seems that SQL is parsed backwards, or at least each clause is parsed in a different order than you type them, because it does seem to "lose" things you already told it (like no aliases in the Group By). You of course alluded to something similar. Not sure about the last point you make, though, just not getting what you mean.

      It seems you have a good understanding of SQL, but I sure get sick of people railing on SQL who clearly do not understand that SQL works with sets of data is not a procedure programming language. Typically, people don't like it cause they do not grasp it well. At least according to my experience with co-workers, etc. Despite its foibles, as relatively simple as it is it does quite a bit. There is a lot to like about its eloquence.

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  6. Real question is: by DominicDuval · · Score: 1

    Do you really want to be funded by these vulture capitalists?

    1. Re:Real question is: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the looks of the article they're more interested in buying technology which is ready for immediate commercialisation, and if you've managed to make a device that can for example "identify new types of hospital-borne infections" off your own back without any venture capital then you're likely going to have the funds to commercialise your invention yourself - that's not to say it'd be stupid to take their money though.

      Alternatively if it's a project that's getting spun out of a university, then the VC might come in handy.

  7. Dash.net is already doing the in car computer ... by rocket_rex · · Score: 1

    With real-time traffic updates, navigation, and information feeds ...

    http://www.dash.net/

    Rocket

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  8. How about some better page formating? by elcid73 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    ...for that article. Visually break up the different ideas so the reader can easily scan them.

  9. Virtual Toilet by Ranger · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    It's kinda like the Internets. It's a series of tubes. The VC's could throw their money down my virtual toilet and when they are done they can wipe their asses with my vaporware paper. From VC to VT to VP = Profit!

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    1. Re:Virtual Toilet by Ranger · · Score: 1

      Flamebait? Interesting.

      What's wrong with venture capitalists flushing their money down a virtual toilet? Most of the ventures they fund will crap out anyway.

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  10. Vulture Capital by CodeBuster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are these the brilliant ideas that will change the world (and make you rich in the process)?"

    They may change the world and the certainly will make somebody rich if they do succeed, but that person will probably NOT be the poor developer or inventor who came up with the idea in the first place. They don't call it "vulture capital" for nothing you know. If the idea or invention is a spectacular success then the inventor may receive some millions after the financiers have received their billions. Remember what happened to the inventor of the blue LED...there is a lesson to be learned there.

    1. Re:Vulture Capital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I guess "Vulture Capitalist" has changed meaning over the last decade.

      In my day (sorry, no "investing in the snow, up hill both ways!" jokes) a "Vulture Capitalist" was someone who invested in bankrupt companies. That's right, they'd buy the debt of bankrupt companies with the hopes of selling off the assets at a profit (the bond price [asset backed] for a bankrupt company can actually sink below the price of the assets backing it! And it can even pay for the bonds that aren't backed by assets (Debenture bonds). When companies are this bad off, they're stock isn't worth the paper they're printed on, that's why the vultures buy the bonds - at that stage of the game, the bond holders and bankers have all of the real power.

    2. Re:Vulture Capital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember what happened to the inventor of the blue LED...there is a lesson to be learned there.

      That is what happens when you're a little green to the ways of the world.

    3. Re:Vulture Capital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the agreement is 100% voluntary on the part of both parties, then what on earth could possibly be wrong or immoral about it? (The parasitic or evil part you're referring to comes when one party employs the coercive power of government against the other. One party achieves an unfair advantage at the expense of the other, thereby destroying the principle of voluntary association which originally defined the contract.)

    4. Re:Vulture Capital by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      "Are these the brilliant ideas that will change the world (and make you rich in the process)?"
      They may change the world and the certainly will make somebody rich if they do succeed, but that person will probably NOT be the poor developer or inventor who came up with the idea in the first place. They don't call it "vulture capital" for nothing you know. If the idea or invention is a spectacular success then the inventor may receive some millions after the financiers have received their billions.

      What a dilemma to have! Keep my idea to myself, and work it myself - and make a few tens of thousands of dollars (maybe). *Or*, accept VC funding and make millions (maybe).
       
      If I were rolling the dice, and had to choose between a few tens (or possibly hundreds) of thousands, and a few millions... That's pretty much a no-brainer choice.
    5. Re:Vulture Capital by CagedBear · · Score: 1
      the inventor may receive some millions after the financiers have received their billions
      Then said inventor takes his millions, invests in another invention (his or someone elses), and makes billions. It takes money to make money, that's just the way it is.
    6. Re:Vulture Capital by drsquare · · Score: 1

      If the inventor is making millions whilst the VC makes billions, then the inventor must have given away 99.9% equity, which is pretty much his own fault.

  11. What's a VC? by Kamineko · · Score: 2

    I must've missed the first five minutes... what's a VC?

    1. Re:What's a VC? by yoblin · · Score: 1, Informative
    2. Re:What's a VC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I missing something here, or did the mods just mod down a VALID FUCKING QUESTION and its answer given that there are people who likely don't know what "VC" means?

      God, I fucking hate idiot mods.

    3. Re:What's a VC? by fyngyrz · · Score: 1
      God, I fucking hate idiot mods.

      New here, then?

      This should entertain you: Slashdot mod problems, and suggested solutions.

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    4. Re:What's a VC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh. No, just annoyed.

      And anonymous. I won't risk karma on off-topicness. :)

  12. Yet Another Database? Arglefarkle!! by EricTheGreen · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Draper thinks there's an opening for a startup that can deliver most of the benefits of standard Big Blue products without millions of lines of code or an army of consultants and IT managers. "I'm not sure yet what this company would look like," Draper says, "but it would not have the technology baggage of the entrenched monopolists. If it can penetrate the market cleverly like we did with Hotmail and Skype, it might not take that much funding."

    What he'll invest: $3 million for a working application


    And if the folks at Postgres are smart, they've just found a way to add $3MM to their foundation funds with a simple email...

    Kidding aside, one thing that _would_ be interesting to see--high-quality, moderate cost OLAP analytics engines, preferably running ROLAP on top of an engine such as PostgreSQL. Maybe they're out there, but I don't see much of them (other than Mondrian). As the commercial OLAP market is structured now, it's hard for midsize companies to justify the outflow for decent analytics. No lack of demand though, just need something at the right price point...

    1. Re:Yet Another Database? Arglefarkle!! by fyngyrz · · Score: 0
      And if the folks at Postgres are smart

      I don't think that's what they're looking for. Perhaps you missed this: "without millions of lines of code". PostgreSQL is great (I use it every day) but it is a huge, unmaintainable pig of a database. There are very few "lightweight" database engines out there, and even fewer that offer a reasonable level of flexibility and power. PostgreSQL isn't one of them, and neither is MySQL. The engine is part of the problem, but you'll notice they point at Microsoft and Oracle; so they're not just talking about the engine, most likely they're implying UI as well (which is something Access, for instance, pretty much has sewn up. It's a bit weird, but it is point and click to an astounding degree.) Nothing like that exists in working form for PostgreSQL, the one attempt I saw was so flawed as to be ludicrous.

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    2. Re:Yet Another Database? Arglefarkle!! by vadim_t · · Score: 1
      You got me curious, so I ran sloccount on postgresql 8.0.8:
      Totals grouped by language (dominant language first):
      ansic: 397855 (93.27%)
      yacc: 13585 (3.18%)
      lex: 5495 (1.29%)
      perl: 4820 (1.13%)
      sh: 4698 (1.10%)
      asm: 70 (0.02%)
      awk: 20 (0.00%)
       
      Total Physical Source Lines of Code (SLOC) = 426,543
      Not the smallest, but not millions of lines either.

      Interestingly enough, mysql 4.1.21 is a lot larger, with 875,095 lines.
      SQLite is 74,317 lines, although it's a rather crappy database in comparison to any of those. It has uses of course, but plenty limitations as well.

    3. Re:Yet Another Database? Arglefarkle!! by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      Very interesting. The question is, from the point of view of the VC, what does "light" mean.

      For instance, I had a need for some database functionality in our image processing product. Handling EXIF fields and general (and unpredictable) other records for a thumbnail database that could be any size based on filesystem limits. I wrote a database system that supports the subset of SQL that I needed (create, insert, delete, undelete, pack, update, select) in about 20k (bytes, not lines. 860 lines.) No external dependencies at all in terms of libraries or OPC (Other People's Code), does just what we required. Self-contained to the point where you can drop the module on a web server, for instance, and use the database system there with no changes at all. Took about two days to spec it, write it from scratch and document it. To me, that's reasonably "light." Things inevitably get "heavy" when you try to include everything everyone likes and/or might need in just about any possible situation.

      Were I into pursuing this, the first thing I'd ask is for the VC's definition of "light", and I would inquire as to what the requirements were, or else ask what they could live without. You don't even consider going into something like this without a pretty clear roadmap. Another thing is that given the size of the offering (three million, which you probably need to figure you'll get to keep about half of what's left after your expenses, after Uncle Sugar has finished savaging you), you have to know you're not on the hook to provide a huge, complex product. Three million isn't enough to fund a big product, not to mention maintenance, it's just that simple. And they did make it reasonably clear that a big product wasn't what they were after. I would say that unless the three million is just to get you to put your foot in the door, something like PostgreSQL is "right out" as Monty Python would have it.

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    4. Re:Yet Another Database? Arglefarkle!! by Teancum · · Score: 1

      I was thinking quite the same thing. What gets most database engines so bulky is the drive to get them to do everything for everybody, even if you end up using only 1% of the functionality. Far too often a database engine is selected just because that is the only tool that the developer who spec'd the design requirments for a given package was even familiar with.

      My own experience along similar lines involved a software package that made SQL queries for a read-only database (on a CD-ROM no less), and I ended up overhauling the entire software package to rip the guts out of the database routines with a custom db interface that did exactly what was needed and no more. Search times dropped to 1% or less in comparison to what it was with the SQL queries and reduced the memory footprint to something almost negligible, both RAM as well as hard drive space for the install.

      There are legitimate uses for a full-featured database, and I won't knock those major applications that use them. But I would also have to agree that a "light" database does have some merit, as well as rolling your own db interface if the needs can be addressed by application specific optimization.

  13. As opposed as I am to any... by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

    ...material diversions to the driver's attention, with the advent of the cellphone, that ship, as they say, has sailed.

    1. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by dgatwood · · Score: 5, Interesting

      True, but a heads-up display is the wrong answer to the wrong question. What we need is a transparent backlight with an LCD windshield (or an OLED windshield). I'll explain.

      With an LCD windshield, coupled with a sufficiently advanced computer and external cameras, the car could use overlay boxes to alert the driver to potential hazards. For example, it could alert the driver to pedestrians standing beside the road, large animals beside the road, police motorcycles sitting in the bushes, etc. All of these things represent potential traffic hazards, as any of these things could suddenly go from being beside the road to being on it very quickly. (I know that law enforcement would hate this because of the reduced ability to set up speed traps, but the improvement in overall safety is hard to dismiss, and might even make speed limits less critical except in inclement weather.)

      Even better. by combining it with cameras in the car to measure the position of the driver's head, since the entire windshield (and, ideally, the side windows) would be LCD panels, you could do other things like darkening a small portion of the panel so that the sun is reduced in brightness to a more manageable level on a bright, sunny day. Ditto for overly bright car headlights, the light bridges on police cars when they park next to road construction (yeah, like being distracted by bright, flashing lights is going to make me drive BETTER!?!), and so on.

      Finally, this would be one step towards having fully automated driving. As the reliability of external threat detection improves, it will eventually evolve to the point that people don't actually have to touch the wheel except in the event of a computer failure. That's many years down the road, but you have to crawl before you can run.

      Now, this doesn't necessarily mean that a heads-up display isn't a good idea for reducing driver distraction. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But any such technology should be combined with what I'm describing here to maximize driver safety FIRST, then reduce distraction as a side effect.

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    2. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by selil · · Score: 1

      This problem has been solved in several domains (Caddilac, Aircraft, Raytheon, etc...). It appears what they are looking for is technology transference and solution engineering. You want a HUD in a car it exists already.

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    3. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by Greventls · · Score: 1

      That would be amazing. I'm imagining the display the Terminator had in the movies.

    4. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by owlnation · · Score: 1

      and to use your cell phone whilst driving is rightly banned in some countries - e.g. The UK. The email thing doubtless would be there too, and might even encourage new legislation in countries that didn't have it before.

      It's a really dumb idea right off the bat. Some VCs clearly have more money than sense.

    5. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by 955301 · · Score: 1

      True, but a car is the wrong answer to the wrong question.

      What we really need is to stop making cars more and more high tech and intelligent and surrogates to the driver's abilities and start pushing forward with Personal Rapid Transit. There's no reason for passengers to have to steer just to keep on the "rail". There isn't any reason to pump AI into the vehicle to keep it on the track. Highways are *not* scaleable because of the 2.5 meter footprint of each lane. Cars cause more problems than they solve and we consistently ignore that.

      Lowered construction time, off-sight mass production of the rails, automated redirection around congestion and maintenance, traffic prioritization, electric vehicles, value added services via computer kiosks.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transi t

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    6. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by neonfrog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cool! Then it could darken like Zaphod's sunglasses so you wouldn't have to panic just before impact!

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    7. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      Also very true. I've been advocating such a thing for years. However, short of a massive federal government project to build out a network of interconnecting rail lines, I don't see that changing any time soon. Also, roads are very efficient at a local level, as a rail-based system cannot climb steep grades. The fundamental flaw in rail-based schemes is that it ignores the fact that long distance travel doesn't lend itself to a few centralized stops. You'll have to drive somewhere to get on, and for the most part, it is more efficient to simply drive where you're going.

      IMHO, what we need are a series of tubes. No, I don't mean Senator Stevens type tubes. For long haul runs, instead of getting on a highway, you drive your car into a tube entrance. Once on the tube, your car doesn't need to steer at all. It just follows the tube. At the end of the entrance ramp, you are moving at a high rate of speed, then pass quickly through an airlock into an evacuated (low air pressure) tube. Your vehicle drops a couple of contact strips to get outside electrical power, then runs off that power.

      Each stretch of tube is either an acceleration tube, a deceleration tube, or a constant speed tube (whether long haul or medium haul). So you have, at most, three tubes in each direction. However, within a city, you have long haul runs and medium haul runs. In effect, this means that local traffic is shifted off onto a side tube, thus minimizing delays once you get out on a long haul route. Once you are outside of a city, you get on a "very long haul" route. These routes are ultra-low pressure tubes with very few places to change direction. As such, extremely high speeds can be achieved.

      To maximize efficiency, the vehicles must be able to operate in a "free wheel' fashion (neutral). Once on a long haul run, computer control optimizes your acceleration and that of vehicles near you so that the vehicles arrive at about the same point at the same time. Then, the rear vehicle in a chain of four or five cars provides power while the others coast. When a vehicle needs to split off, the vehicles in front accelerate a bit, the ones behind decelerate a bit, and a switching system diverts that single car onto a deceleration line. The frontmost vehicles then decelerate and rejoin the caravan.

      Note: I don't have the switching system quite worked out in my head yet; that is, by far, the hardest part with such a design. It might be as simple as having two parallel tubes with no wall between then where vehicles can switch from one lane to another and go in a different direction. I'm not sure.

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    8. Re:As opposed as I am to any... by 955301 · · Score: 1

      I take the other position on the funding and implementation. Given that we are effectively in a fascist country, any attempt to build such a system by a government would be killed by the companies who stand to lose money over the undertaking. And I wouldn't blame them - why pay taxes to a government who implements systems which compete with your business?

      My "spherical chickens in a vacuum", i.e., ideal, hypothesis is that this thing should be shopped out to the companies it invalidates: gas stations, auto service centers, car dealerships, existing transist, car washes. Also to anyone with an interest in being a hub: mall and strip mall owners, wall mart, Home Depot, Lowes, etc. This way, you build a company funded by those businesses which would otherwise lose out on the endeavor and they get a profit cut.

      There isn't any reason car service centers can service transit vehicles too, or gas stations can't be train stops, or car washes can't wash prt vehicles.

      I like your long haul idea, perhaps you just need a surrogate vehicle to drive your car on to, punch in the destination, and the vehicle has build in switching to pick the proper tracks. As for climbing steep grades, a small vehicle with an electric drive would be able to, especially given that that part of the track could have a "helper" system which assists vehicles.

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  14. Oh, dear by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

    He says he's willing to invest in new search applications that, for example, depend as much on voice recognition as on text input

    Am I really the only person who feels like an idiot when I have to talk to a computer?

    1. Re:Oh, dear by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 1

      Heck yeah! I hate the idiots who talk too loud on their phones as is. We all hear waaaaay to much of peoples' personal lives as is.

      Can you imagine what things will be like when you have people shouting search criteria into their cell phones? I personally do not want to hear the dirty old man on the bus yelling "HOT LATINA CHIX!" into his motorola. *shudder*

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    2. Re:Oh, dear by happyfrogcow · · Score: 1

      Just imagine how the computer feels having to listen to an idiot.

      "Here I am, brain the size of a planet..."

    3. Re:Oh, dear by devnull17 · · Score: 1

      That's just because voice recognition technology sucks right now.

      A hundred years ago, you'd look like an idiot for talking to a small lump of plastic attached to the wall by a curly cord. Once the technology matures, everyone will get used to it, and you'll use it without even thinking about it.

  15. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 1

    Does Rimer _want_ to support bad ideas? As they say, where there's a will, there's a way (to $300 million.)

    Maybe he'll support my idea of dragging Arctic ice to the Sahara desert.

  16. Spam Crashes by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    "drive and check e-mail at the same time. That's vastly safer than drivers looking down and taking one or both hands off the wheel to play with their BlackBerry" - Jonathan Fram

    This fool wants to pay people to put email in the hands of people driving down the road. These are people who can't drive their giant SUVs already, read signs, use their signals. He thinks putting their Blackberries in a virtual page on the rear end of the car in front will be safe, not just make them tailgate even more.

    Combining the yuppie inability to spell in email with the yuppie inability to drive in traffic. This guy should win the Darwin Awards as sponsor of fish bicycles.

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  17. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? (Says who?) by gosand · · Score: 3, Informative
    Don't you need internet access on your cell phone before mobile search engines hit it big? In which case there would need to be almost nothing different than current websites. Maybe they should focus on getting decent broadband to mobile phones in the area of $20 a month before worrying about super-duper mobile phone websites. Otherwise nobody will use the websites....


    Who says you need internet access on your phone for this? Those are the types of assumptions that hinder innovation. Couldn't you do some kind of query/response to a server somewhere? One of the things that always seems kind of obvious AFTER some kind of innovation is what assumptions were thought about in a different way. Think of the problem, and how it could be solved, without getting caught up in what already exists. That is just one way to do it, obviously another is to try and use what already exists. But all ways should be looked at to solve problems.


    It's like looking back on the comments around flying before airplanes where they thought it was impossible because things were too heavy, so they tried to make things really light in order to fly. That is why I love the "50,100, 150 years ago" section in Scientific American magazine. It is really interesting to read the thoughts on science from those time periods. Sometimes it is amazing at how forward-thinking they were, and sometimes it is funny to see how far off they were.


    Always look at your assumptions, and consider how to eliminate them if they are hindering your solution. Like Google's recent comments on PC power supplies (a href=http://informationweek.com/hardware/showArtic le.jhtml?articleID=193005875> here. It is one of those simple and innovative ideas.
     

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  18. Travel 2.0 - being done by NovaX · · Score: 1

    What he wants now: Concierge-grade trip planning over the Web. Imagine getting a message on your BlackBerry alerting you that your villa is booked, dinner reservations are confirmed, and a driver will pick you up in an hour for the flight to Belize. It's not live agents making that happen, but software that taps into the growing number of travel-industry databases - of hotel chains, restaurants, limo services, amusement parks - to assemble smarter, more personalized itineraries than can be found on major travel hubs like Orbitz and Travelocity.

    Look at Rearden Commerce. Plus, we get to throw around the latest tech buzz words too (SOA, SaaS, AJAX, etc)!

    Disclamer: Employee of said company.

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    1. Re:Travel 2.0 - being done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Readen Commerce is not consumer friendly. It requires a corporate account to even get started. If I understand the intent of the VC for this project. The web site would be open so that the general masses would be able to book the best rates for a greater variety of services. www.readen.com does not come close to this.

      Interesting company though from a corporate perspective, although we've always used AMEX for these types of travel services with no issues.

    2. Re:Travel 2.0 - being done by NovaX · · Score: 1

      I agree, Rearden isn't consumer friendly - yet. We are working on that and a lot of effort is being done to clean up the user interface, as well as to totally redesign it to create a enhance experience. In the future, I am positive that Rearden Commerce will open their platform to the public once critical mass of corporate users, suppliers, and services has been reached.

      In terms of offering "a greater variety of services" - that's our long-term goal. We have a SOA platform that allows us to easily integrate new services and have developed a new framework to rapidly create them. We'll quickly become a marketplace of services.

      It will be interesting to see how AMEX responds to us. We're on their radar.

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  19. Delete this post immediately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The parent post is sickening! It needs to be removed from this site right now or I will call up the ADL or SPLC. Free speech is not allowed if it's about hatred of non-whites.

  20. New databases? by jcr · · Score: 1

    TFA mentions that one of the VC wants to fund a new RDBMS product to take on Oracle. What he apparently doesn't know is that there are already better products on the market, which have no chance in hell of getting any significant mind-share away from Oracle.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:New databases? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What he apparently doesn't know is that there are already better products on the market, which have no chance in hell of getting any significant mind-share away from Oracle

      Like wot? Webobjects? (hahahaha)

    2. Re:New databases? by jcr · · Score: 1

      Try to keep up, sparky. I was talking about databases, not web app development tools.

      -jcr

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  21. Hey big spenders! by popo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What they want now: A driver's tech fantasy fully realized: an in-dash computer with a keyboard built into the steering wheel and a full-screen heads-up display projected on the windshield.

    What they'll invest: $5 million for a deeply qualified 20-person team to deliver a prototype and a plan for pitching a commercial version to automakers within three years


    Gee, a whole $5 million for a DEEPLY QUALIFIED 20 PERSON TEAM FOR 3 YEARS. LOL.

    Apparently, on-shore development teams need not apply.

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    1. Re:Hey big spenders! by hsoft · · Score: 1

      Well, unless I made a calculation mistake, that's about 80k per person per year. It isn't so bad. And it would certainly be hell of a salary in India (I guess).

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    2. Re:Hey big spenders! by Isao · · Score: 1
      I'm afraid you did overlook some costs.

      Assume 30% employment overhead for each staffer, plus 10% risk of doing business (short-term work), plus costs for a development environment (location and equipment).

      What I think they're essentially looking for is a university development environment, not a strictly commercial organization.

    3. Re:Hey big spenders! by COMON$ · · Score: 1

      Depends on whether the 5M involves all admin costs. You have to figure in benefits, building costs, software, hardware, QA groups, bonuses...

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    4. Re:Hey big spenders! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be stupid. The initial employees at such a company aren't there for a salary. The VC buy 40-60% of the company with his 5million. The employees own the rest. If the employees want market salaries and benefits, they can work anywhere.

    5. Re:Hey big spenders! by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      He's looking to make a venture capital investment not probably buy the company. I'd guess he's shooting for something in the neighborhood of 20-50% ownership depending on any resources your firm would begin with and how far the technology is when you make the pitch. That leaves you with an additional 50-80% of the company to sell if you need more resources to complete the project (more importantly the share of the company you'd sell in later rounds should decline and the funds raised might increase).

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    6. Re:Hey big spenders! by joefreshman · · Score: 1

      Venture Capitalists tend to want 80% OR MORE of equity, especially if the company is at age 0. I agree with the original poster that $5MM for 20 highly skilled programmers for 3 years seems insane.

    7. Re:Hey big spenders! by kckman · · Score: 1

      Disclosure: didn't RTFA. That said, who says that the simple investment to get to that point would preclude any additional funding or ownwership and licensing and support going forward? Ok, I'll admit this kind of funding level isn't going to produce billions for the team in 10 years, but might be very promising for them given the right deal overall.

    8. Re:Hey big spenders! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't be stupid. The initial employees at such a company aren't there for a salary. The VC buy 40-60% of the company with his 5million. The employees own the rest. If the employees want market salaries and benefits, they can work anywhere.
      I can tell you have never been in a start up. The employees do not own the rest. The employee pool is only 5% or maybe 10% on the high side. The rest is owned by a few executives....
    9. Re:Hey big spenders! by lawpoop · · Score: 1

      Aren't these VC ventures usually a team of investors?

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    10. Re:Hey big spenders! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than a 3-person team for 20 years!

  22. How about $20 . . . by photomic · · Score: 1

    . . . for some freakin' hierarchical content markup?

  23. A Brave New World...of advertising by TheWoozle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    5 out of the 20 were about different ways to advertise. One was about a way to automate product placement on TV shows and in movies.

    There are a lot of technology-gone-horribly-wrong scenarios; the one that leaves me in a cold sweat is inescapable advertising.

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    1. Re:A Brave New World...of advertising by Lactoso · · Score: 1
      Yes, I think that is most telling. As long as there are evil fools with millions to fund new ways to SPAM, it will never end. :-(

      And that Minority Report vision of future advertising is drawing nearer every day. I was recently down in Miami where they have started covering up windows of skyscrapers with advertising (that see-through kind you see on buses). Soon advertiser will be plastering their logos across entire skylines...

  24. Re:how about funding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you speak louder?

    Its hard to hear you with my black dick in your mouth.

  25. Souls Wanted by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    The missing field in that CNN list of VCs, what they'll buy and what they'll pay, is "What they'll let you keep:". When a VC gives you money to startup a company, they get most of the equity in the company. So they can sell it when (if) its value goes up on the value of the product you develop. They'll make you spend that money you get from them on developing their company. Expenses and operations designed to increase the apparent value of their company, even when that doesn't reflect the actual value of the product. And with the majority ownership, they'll make "your" company do whatever they want, including fire you. While they keep everything you contributed to the corporation. If you're lucky, the new guys will make the company worth enough that you'll get something when they sell it. But of course they'll probably dilute your ownership by issuing "new shares" to new investors, from which they'll keep the money.

    And the majority of the corporations they "invest in" fail - justified only by the few that pay for the whole lot.

    It's not always like that, not on every point. But that's the way to bet: the VCs certainly do.

    By all means listen to what they want. But if you can do it without VC money, do it. Or just make sure to sell them only minority stakes, and don't get diluted out of power over your own vision.

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    1. Re:Souls Wanted by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

      It doesn't have to be that bad. These people want a product; make sure that's all they get. No one says you have to sell your soul — at least, not yet. If the terms aren't acceptable, walk.

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    2. Re:Souls Wanted by ancient_kings · · Score: 1

      Just to remind everyone, most VC's are lawyers, so expect the worse from a VC....

    3. Re:Souls Wanted by Teancum · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As pointed out, the quantities of money, while sounding impressive to people who are not well aquainted with this type of business, are actually rather low in terms of what it really would cost to get a team of software developers to get something like this put together.

      My experience is that most people who don't directly understand the costs of software development underestimate the actual cost of development by only willing to pay about 5%-10% of the real world cost, especially if you are talking a full life-cycle in terms of development, maintainence, and archival for retrival in case something goes wrong and the ancient stuff needs to be hauled out of mothballs.

      When spread out over a number of customers the cost can be lower per unit, but there are only so many software packages that can be sold simultaneously to millions of customers. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire just because of one single software package.

      A good, tight, and well discliplined software development team of between 5-10 programmers can easily burn through $5 million and still have rags on their kids and clunkers in their driveway, especially if spread over 3-4 years. And the investors would really wonder what happened to the money when all they have to show for it is a lousy CD-ROM filled with source code and an expired lease on some obscure office park with broken windows and police crime tape.

      That is if you have somebody who is also willing to let the software development team do its job and not get in their way, and you let them get that fleabag office space or try to do it in a garage that you are renting for $50/month. If you want to impress other investors and do show and glitz, or try to blow money to puff up your prestige, fancy office space can even chew through more money than salaries. Then the management wonders why the programmers are buying computers from the local thrift store.

      Heaven help you if the main investor decides to get involved with day to day affairs, even if they are a software developer themselves. Only if that investor is also acting as a lead designer and doing substantial amounts of software development can you really trust them to understand the situation.

      Yeah, I've seen it all in this regard and worse, even from those who think they understand software development. Usually it isn't too extreme like I've described and most small software development shops are only semi-mediocre in terms of where they are located at, but the extremes do happen.

      You are completely correct that once the day of reckoning comes (whatever that may be called or described) the number 1 thing that these investors are interested in is increasing value, the apparent value.

      From my own experience in getting involved with a major software startup, unless you are the primary investor you are likely to get screwed over unless you also hire an attorney right at the beginning before you even start writing the first line of code. You might be lucky and have an "honest" senior investor, but don't count on it and more people are likely to lose their shirt... even from investors that are otherwise decent human beings.

  26. The reason... by jbeaupre · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't forget, this is a list of projects they are willing to discuss publicly. They don't have to worry about someone stealing an old concept for a product and they might just get someone to call them up with a way to do it. They guard the innovative stuff a little more jealously.

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    1. Re:The reason... by Fartacus · · Score: 1

      They don't have any more innovative ideas of their own to guard. Venture capitalists aren't innovators, they're not inventors, they're analysts.

  27. There are no dumb questions... by DG · · Score: 1

    Although a quick Google can answer most of them.

    Anyway, "VC" can be:

    "Venture Captialist" - someone who fronts money to startup companies or other risky ventures in the hope that their idea will hit big and the VC will reap a huge reward; or

    "Victoria Cross" - the highest Commonwealth award for valour in the face of the enemy; or

    "Viet Cong" - the insergent wing of the North Vietnamese Army, active in South Vietnam during the Vietnam war.

    DG

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  28. Wanted: Long lasting lithium battery by eclectro · · Score: 1

    At the proposal meeting: "We have this terrrific battery that lasts longer than any Lith-ion batteries out there. The only problem we have, that we are sure we can fix, is that one may occasionally explode."

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  29. and OnStar already has the voice search ability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Magic

    OnStar is running a cut-back version of the Portico system from General Magic that was http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.12/streetcred .html?pg=2 letting you do email, searches, etc. through a voice-only interface as far back as 1999!

  30. Let's set so double the killer delete select all. by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1
    Am I really the only person who feels like an idiot when I have to talk to a computer?
    Could be worse, you could look like one too.
  31. BSOD by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1, Insightful

    >With an LCD windshield, coupled with a sufficiently advanced computer and external cameras

    Hmmmm... One crash (computer) could lead to another (car) and a new definition of Blue Screen Of Death.
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    1. Re:BSOD by aztektum · · Score: 1

      He did mention transparent backlighting, thus making it seem like the entire windshield is see through.

      Have you seen some OLED demo videos? The substrate is clear with the used portions emitting light. Similar effect to the standard mirrored HUD.

      I doubt the OP is suggesting we just mount a 24 inch standard LCD monitor to the dash to obstruct our view.

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  32. Count me in! by le0p · · Score: 1

    Text Ads on the Fly

    The Investor: Charles Moldow, venture partner, Foundation Capital

    What his firm's backed: CarsDirect.com, Netflix, Simply Hired

    What he wants now:: Text-messaging software that allows local merchants to send offers to mobile phones. Some companies already do this in basic form; Moldow's idea would give merchants more control. "This is bringing the blue-light special to your phone," he says. Five or so people could write the code; a sales demon is also needed to enlist merchants. Prove that you can pull this off in one city and Moldow will listen to an expansion plan.

    What he'll invest: 5 Million for working technology
    What I'll invest: A punch in the mouth for anyone who finds a way add even more spam into my life.

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  33. No, not A new database? RTFA by Shadowlore · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Rather than use my mod points, I'll point this out for other mods and meta-mods:

    It specifically said:
    What he wants now: A new database company. "


    Just because you the poster failed to read that last word does not mean you get to then say what he wants as if it was your idea,and slam him for not thinking it. Mods, please take appropriate action regarding parent post.

    That said, your idea is a paltry imitation of his. He wants more than a sales organization. He wants a company that can take on the big boys on their own turf: big database work. That means application support that goes beyond the little stuff done by most (all?) current DB smaller companies.
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    1. Re:No, not A new database? RTFA by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 0
      It specifically said:
      What he wants now: A new database company. "
      So what?

      What's this new database company going to sell? If they just knock out pirated versions of Oracle, I can see Larry sending some really evil lawyers - brigade strength at least - in their general direction pretty darn quick.

      And by really evil, I mean even by lawyers standards.
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    2. Re:No, not A new database? RTFA by mspohr · · Score: 1
      Yes, you are correct. I was taken by the heading "A Flyweight Database" and didn't read the article carefully. So he is thinking of a sales and support company. Good. However, if he wants to go against IBM and Oracle in the sales and support services, he'll need big bucks (and a long sales cycle) to establish credibility. It's not clear whether or not he's looking to create a "flyweight database" or "flyweight company"... either way, it sounds like a paradox... a lightweight "under the radar" database/company that will have "big database credibility".

      There are lots of databases that are already penetrating corporations "under the radar" in the manner of Skype and Hotmail (his examples). It sounds like he wants to go in the front door as a major player through the CIO... this will take much more than $10 million. He wants to avoid all of the "technology baggage" of IBM and Oracle but he'll need to create his own business brand reputation (i.e. "baggage").

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    3. Re:No, not A new database? RTFA by Levetron · · Score: 1

      What about Progress Software?

    4. Re:No, not A new database? RTFA by aethogamous · · Score: 1

      Second this. From my perspective this is the smartest of the 20 ideas (though clearly not the most interesting and probably the least innovative), but there are needs to be filled in this area (especially with regard to efficiency) and there is a large market already established.

  34. diabetic monitoring by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

    I love how they want an implantable monitor. Expecially for glucose. That's been a major objective in diabetic research for decades. Millions have been spent on it. Chances are any new idea these guys get will fail as badly as the old ones. Oh, it'll get solved someday. But it sure won't be from some guy reading CNNMoney wondering what to do with his fabulous glucose monitor idea. Heck, they could probably sell the tech to novartis or lifescan for a lot more money than they'd see from VC's.

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  35. Holy God... by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

    This is "big idead" from people with money?? WTF. Their idea of changing the world is bombarding cell phone owners with ads based on where they take their dog for a walk? What the f*ck? How small minded. Could they not use that money for something really progressive???

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  36. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? (Says who?) by joshetc · · Score: 1

    Sounds like an even better business plan. Make people pay $5 a month for each piece of generic content they want, like ESPN Mobile which is shutting down.

    I realize most major carriers offer broadband, which is overpriced junk.

    Once mobile carriers are giving 512kbit+ lines for low prices w/ out restrictions (ie. ethernet or some other port on the phone where you can plug any web capable device into it for an instant connection) and no bandwidth limits will mobile internet finally pick up.

    Eventually it needs to get to the point where landlines of any type are rare; video, voice and internet all transmitted wirelessly. Only the major bandwidth users (ISPs, webhosts, etc) and people that rely on low latency should require landlines, if even them.

  37. Text Spam by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

    >Text-messaging software that allows local merchants to send offers to mobile phones. Some companies already do this in basic form; Moldow's idea would give merchants more control.

    Just Fucking Great... text message spam. It's hard to think of a suitable response to this that isn't a felony.
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  38. VCs should post to craigslist by pacalis · · Score: 1

    I find this type of list extremely bizarre - while interests in finding the next major online community/activity is vauge enough to be just about anything, these really specific ones are nuts. If you don't have the human capital, the idea is completely useless - and the VCs will overpay for promises. So if theres a cutting edge research team that suggests immnense possibilities for batteries, and the VCs can't build a team by working with that very group, they're chasing rainbows.

  39. Some thoughts by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    The web-based spreadsheet thing sounds downright easy. What is the catch? Someone's willing to spend $5 million on a project that a typical student could probably implement (at least in a rough form) in a week? I don't get it.

    The HUDs on autos is a good idea. Complain about safety all you want, but the fact is, mitigating distractions is the best you can do. The People have already spoken and demanded that the distractions exist -- look around for drivers talking on their phones if you don't believe me. You are never going to make it safe, so making it safer is the thing to do.

    The ads-to-phone stuff is depressing. No, wait. Not depressing, inspiring. I think we are really going to need to take charge of our phones before too long. We rely too much on the carriers bundling phones with services, and with phone features being a function of what somebody other than the user wants.

    The p2p social-networking market sounds useful (at first), but I sure don't want to pay "transaction fees." The very fact that it will be possible to collect such fees, also means that it simply can't be really decentralized. They'll have to cripple it in some way, in order to get a piece of everyone's action. That makes it sound lame before it even gets started.

    The "Green Office Space" idea sounds absolutely brilliant.

    The Massive Entertainment still amazes me. 15 years ago, who knew there would be money in MUDs?!? Ok, maybe you did, but I would have laughed.

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    1. Re:Some thoughts by Krater76 · · Score: 1

      The Massive Entertainment still amazes me. 15 years ago, who knew there would be money in MUDs?!? Ok, maybe you did, but I would have laughed.

      I did although honestly it wasn't really that far out from Ultima Online so really it was already on it's way. I had friends who played MUDs and were simply addicted to them. I played too but I just couldn't get around reading all that text. I got my characters to level cap but didn't quit because it was how I kept in contact with my high-school friends during college (free internet, 28kbps WOOT! - man, I'm old).

      Really, until WoW, MMOs have been a fringe thing but the social aspect of them was always what made them big. I think the only thing that truly held some of the early MMOs back from being huge was the lack of home internet connection speed too.

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  40. No, dude, you don't get it by melted · · Score: 1

    In this country, you need to multiply the salary rougly by 2.5 to get the overall yearly spending on a single "individual contributor" employee. You need to rent a building, you need to buy hardware, bandwidth, electricity, you need to pay health insurance, heating, janitorial, "morale" events, etc, etc. And $83K a year won't get you anyone "deeply qualified". It's a mid-level salary of a decent programmer in, say, WA.

  41. Who Cares About VCs? by PopeZaphod · · Score: 1

    Why should I care what the Viet Cong want to invest in?

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    1. Re:Who Cares About VCs? by gimple · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Charlie don't surf...the Internet.

  42. Thoughts by Spazmania · · Score: 1

    Spreadsheets That Truly Excel

    That should be easy enough. Rip the GUI off openoffice and build a web-based front-end.

    The eBay of Product Placement

    The only trick to this one is building a tech-driven company when everything except the hollywood exec insider contacts are a commodity. Put a hollywood exec in charge and he'll foul it up the same way the airline execs fouled up their spare parts auction company. I don't want to say they're stupid, so let me instead say that they're "not the right kind of smart." If you can somehow keep the tech guy in charge without bruising the critical hollywood exec's ego, this company should be a snap.

    The Social Marketplace

    The micropayment systems required here have withered on the vine. Micropayments will actually happen when some major credit card vendor (like Chase) revamps their accounting system so it can inexpensively handle sub-cent transactions and then throws the door open to all cardmembers to send and receive small payments via their existing visa/mastercard account.

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  43. New ideas come from the outside by Programmer_Errant · · Score: 1

    The existing database companies seem to be fairly conservative and not open to new ideas. So the best way to innovate here would be with a new company. As long as they don't staff it up with experienced people.

  44. Number 20 by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1, Interesting

    $5 million for a working game or site that shows MMO growth potential. "It's so hard to predict what will take off," Gurley says, "that it's easier to pay more for something that's further along."

    I've thought about this type of thing for a long time. There are several open source gaming engines out there, including fully functioning, community driven, MMORPGs. He mentions that it is easier to start with something further along. A few million spent on some full time developers for bug fixes and a few million on artwork and story development and a few million spent on setting up servers/bandwidth and getting marketing agreements and this sort of a setup could really take off. I say, harness the online community's desire to make things and profit on your stories and advertising.

    Here's what I envision. Build one of these engines so that it accepts modules which are artwork+story in a new, open standard format. Run a site providing a short, pro quality game supported by ads. Try to get every company you can to bundle it on computers they sell and OS's they distribute. Aside from the advertising in the client/site, you sell closed source pro dev tools (with a freeware version). You sell new modules at a fraction of the price other games cost (lesser by the reused code cost). You provide free hosting for other people's modules they want to sell (a percentage off the top).

    The mod community would go nuts for something like this and if you snag one of the existing cross platform engines, a lot of your work is done for you and you can reach the mostly latent linux and mac mod crew. And, seeing as the engine is open source you get free bug fixes and improvements from the open source community. I think you could make a fortune and undercut everyone. Too bad I'm too busy to put this together. Someone please, steal this idea.

    1. Re:Number 20 by MatrixCubed · · Score: 0

      Though still in its infancy, my own brainchild, The Odyssey Project, somewhat aims for just this.

      http://odyssey-project.com/

      Cheers,
      -m

  45. Anemic ideas by gatesvp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is is just me, or are most of these ideas pretty anemic? Pathogen detection sounds pretty far out, but much of the rest is questionable. They either want an incremental software upgrade or a monumental leap in the energy field.

    Of course you want a li-ion battery with 5 times the power, we all do. R&D labs have been working on it for years, remember li-poly? And your investment? 2M, that's 66k / person for 2 years! And I need PhDs for this kind of work! 2M won't even cover salary and ops expenses for 1 year, let alone startup fees. A new battery is worth billions, not millions, this money is a fraction of what's needed and the 15 underpaid geniuses have to find a way to succeed where other R&D research labs have failed. This looks pretty bad.

    FTA: One idea offered $5 million for a deeply qualified 20-person team...commercial version to automakers within three years. That's 86k per person per year, clearly not enough.

    As to software, you want a working version of the next MMO, web-based Excel, cell phone search? If I'm that far along, why do I need your money? If I have established a user base in one city or an established user community, what's the difference between your $5M and a $5M loan? Venture Capital is defined as high risk, but if I have working tech and a defined user base, you're basically an investor.

    BTW, what's this about the 20 smartest companies to start now? It seems to me that most of these would be bad companies to start now. If you had a working version and really needed the VC, well then here's your hookup. But starting some of these ideas now could be really fatal (i.e. spreadsheet blown away by Google's, NetSuite upgrading their software).

    The only way I can see any of these working is for an existing company to gather a team and apply for this VC with hopes of a quick turnaround. Even then, the company will definitely be dumping a chunk of their own money on the project, so I don't see how the VC will get a reasonable cut.

    These are not the 20 smartest ideas, just 20 reasonably good ones.

  46. Amanda Reed's web based spreadsheets by bored · · Score: 1

    Ah hello, can I have the $5 mill? I think sharepoint does exactly what she wants... Geeze some of these are just as silly.

  47. I'm sorry Dave by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    As the reliability of external threat detection improves, it will eventually evolve to the point that people don't actually have to touch the wheel except in the event of a computer failure.

    I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you drive down that gravel road. I might get chipped, and not in a good way.

    I, for one, welcome our cracked $10,000 LCD windshield overlords...

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  48. Re:Anemic ideas indeed by Doug+Coulter · · Score: 1

    Yes, they are, and they are looking at a very short term for how long most of them will be viable. I didn't see anyone wanting to invest in my 250 mpg car, for example, there's one with legs. You can see it at www.coultersmithing.com/kart.html. (don't all visit at once, I don't think my site will withstand a slashdotting, so I didn't make the link clickable) This is real, it works, and is "too much fun" to drive. Don't really need money per se, but need to set up manuf and dealerships. I'm already getting orders from local people who have driven the thing.

  49. I agree with 90% of what you said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with nearly everything you mentioned; especially the JOIN clause. It's should match for simple joins, obviously being overwritten for outer joins, etc...

    I'm not sure what you meant by the insert though. It sounds like you are inserting by column. I recommend that you ALWAYS give the column_name.

    1. Re:I agree with 90% of what you said by Doctor+Faustus · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you meant by the insert though. It sounds like you are inserting by column. I recommend that you ALWAYS give the column_name.
      I do always give the column name. However, it's still tricky if you're inserting a lot of expressions (rather than simple fields) or the source table has markedly different field names from the destination table.

      Insert Into MyTable (Field1, Field2, Field3, Field4, Field5, Field6, Field7)
      Select Field1, 'Dave''s credit card', AccountNumber, Minutes / 60, Field5, 23, 'Mastercard'
      From ThatOtherTable
      Where KeyField In (2, 4, 6, 8)

  50. Obligatory Futurama reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Computer: "Please select mode of death: quick and painless or slow and horrible."
    Fry: "Yeah, I'd like to place a collect call..."
    Computer: "You have selected: slow and horrible."

  51. some are not very informed by sgt+scrub · · Score: 1

    Trip Planning 2.0
    What he wants now: ....software that taps into the growing number of travel-industry databases....
    What he'll invest: $5 million to create a working prototype within two years

    I know of several free tools that will tap into pretty much anyone's database. :D

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  52. (free internet, 28kbps WOOT! - man, I'm old). by count0 · · Score: 1

    So, we've started a pool here in the office about how long it will take for someone to post a reply that tells you they had a 2400 baud modem. And then someone else will post about their 300 baud modem. And then someone else will need to pipe up who admin'ed a BBS using semaphore and carrier pigeons.

    But of course, we know you're not *really* old until you used the original nam shub sneakernet with Sumerian clay tablets...man, Slashdot is the best ;-)

  53. Free speech is always allowed. by Rank_Tyro · · Score: 1

    Actually, as much as I hate to say it, free speech is always allowed.

    No one says you have to agree with it, and in the case of trolls like this, wait for the mods to bury it.

    Then read at +3 or above if you don't want to see it.

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  54. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? (Says who?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who says you need internet access on your phone for this? Those are the types of assumptions that hinder innovation. Couldn't you do some kind of query/response to a server somewhere?

    You could, but it's not as good as direct Internet access. What use is a web search engine if only a tiny fraction of the pages are readable on a mobile? I suppose you could make a mobile-only search engine, but you'd be pretty limited in the kind of information you can access regardless.

  55. Dynamic RDBMS by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Regarding the "Flyweight Database", what I would like to see is a dynamic RDBMS or a type-free RDBMS. One could create columns on the fly and the dynamic nature would better match dynamic languages like PHP. Strong typing found in Java and Oracle is so 80's IMO.

    Types or formatting restrictions could be incrementally added as needed when a table matures. The US needs to have nimble companies to stay ahead of the educated 3rd world, and dynamic DB's are one way to do it.

  56. Re:Dont uhh you need internet..? (Says who?) by freeweed · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Who says you need internet access on your phone for this? Those are the types of assumptions that hinder innovation. Couldn't you do some kind of query/response to a server somewhere?

    Yeah!

    What we could do is set up this server, and design some sort of transmission protocol to handle the query/response that you mentioned.

    Of course, one server would (understandably) be limited in terms of what it could offer, and how many queries it could handle at once. What we'd really need to do is set up many of these servers - each could help share the load, and each could have different content on them.

    Of course, with millions of cellphone users, we'd need many, many servers to handle the load. And with the amount of information available today, no one server could provide any sizable fraction of the content. Well, let's set up thousands of servers, then.

    Now, with all these servers, it sure would be nice to let them talk to each other as well - this way they can keep tabs on what everyone else is offering. Also, it's getting pretty cumbersome to try and find one server out of thousands - we'll need some sort of naming system, and likely hierarchical, to sort it all out.

    Hmm.. now if only we could tie this all up together in some sort of futuristic Interconnecting network, you might be onto something!

    --
    Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
  57. the folly of the HUD in cars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm a dreamer too, and the idea of having a heads-up-display in my car is at first fascinating. But after more thought about how the real world works, I really seems to me like the making of a new nightmare.

    First of all, there really isn't any place on any given windshield where you could put an email window or whatever without blocking/obscuring some part of the road or side of the road, and ultimately causing you to have to make extra effort to try to look around it when you need to see.

    Second, even if the image is floating 15 feet in front of you, focusing on graphics is a distraction from the real world. Anybody who has driven behind an SUV with TVs playing in the back seat can tell you that watching that TV for even a few seconds can cause real distraction from driving.

    Finally, the ugly truth of marketing space and hackers. Look around you at how marketers have found a way to use up almost every type of available space for advertising. Do you think they're gonna miss out on a chance to show you ads while you're driving too? Pop-up ads while driving will suck, no doubt about that. Worse, if it can read your email, it has to be connected to the internet, and anyone who knows anything about that knows there's just no way to truly protect anything on the interenet from hackers. How about that first virus that randomly turns your display solid black or really bright white or whatever blocks your vision worse.

    And if that's not enough, imagine trying to get fancy HUD to work right when it crashes or freezes up while you're driving. You know, especially techy people like us aren't gonna be able to wait until we get there to try and fix it... So now we're troubleshooting our computer, no doubt on the phone with support, on a screen that's in front of our windshields while we're also maybe trying to drive without killing anyone.

    I dunno... it sounds good on paper, but I honestly hope it doesn't happen.

  58. Google spreadsheets? by Acid-Duck · · Score: 1


    The Investor: Amanda Reed, partner, Palomar Ventures

    What she's backed: Attensity, Edgewater Networks

    What she wants now: A Web-based platform to make company spreadsheets--for revenue forecasting and other analytical chores - more easily viewed, updated, and shared by managers. Many small-business execs still rely on e-mailing Excel files around the office to share data forecasts. Software apps like NetSuite import data but not the formulas embedded in spreadsheets.


    Doesn't google spreadsheets do that?

  59. HUD FUD by ElboRuum · · Score: 1

    I'm going to indulge in it a little.

    1. We don't need an LCD windshield. Because no matter what you put in front of the driver, they're looking at IT and not the ROAD. Focus on any foreground image and the background image loses focus. Any time the driver removes his/her focus from the road ahead. The rub of this is that focus on the road then blurs the foreground image and distracts the driver.

    2. They have these things called sunglasses for bright sunny days. Go to any 7-11 and you can buy cheapies for $10. The issue isn't that people are blinded by headlights, or other such bright alerting device, it's that these need not be that bright. Alert, don't distract.

    3. Who wants automated driving? I, for one, like to drive. I'm pretty sure, due to the popularity of motorsports, that I'm not nearly the only one.

    4. Anything that turns the attention of the driver off of the road ahead and to some other device, readout, or whatever IS a distraction. Anything that can have the effect of annoying the driver, whether it be yelling into a cellphone, a heated argument with the person in the shotgun seat, or smacking the kids in the back seat, is distracting. A HUD is nothing more than a distraction. There is a reason why the instrument cluster sits where it sits and is organized the way it's organized. It's because drivers need only twitch their eyes momentarily downward to scan the gauges for all of the relevant information they require, and then resume their forward focus.