Microsoft Shown Involved with Baystar and SCO
baryon351 writes "Back a few years ago, when SCO looked like it was hemorrhaging cash, a surprise investment came out of the blue from venture capitalists Baystar. They invested $20 million in SCO and aided their anti-Linux cause, enabling McBride & co. to continue with (now shown incorrect) claims of line-by-line code copying of SCO IP in Linux. Now one of IBM's submissions to the court reveals Microsoft was behind it after all. Baystar's manager says about Microsoft's Richard Emerson: 'Mr. Emerson and I discussed a variety of investment structures wherein Microsoft would backstop, or guarantee in some way, Baystar's investment ... Microsoft assured me that it would in some way guarantee BayStar's investment in SCO.' Despite the denials about their involvement, Microsoft helped SCO continue this charade — and on top of that halted all contact with Baystar after the investment, reneging on their guarantee."
And it's not like these rumblings haven't come to haunt BSD before now...
Even though it is illegal people do commit perjury. In my case against Star Marketing Group they lied under oath in a declaraction. Mason Stedman claimed that it was the only officer in the company and since he was out of town, he did not receive the summons and complaint. If you look at company's web page shows that that is a lie.
In another case, I had a spammer claim that there is no "affiliate program", both their own corporate web page made reference to it.
Even if caught, these liars will not likely be jailed for it -- such a shame.
Fight Spammers!
While I'm not the parent poster, I can understand why people who have been in the industry for a long time would trust SCO.
I do think you should consider how SCO was seen in the 1980s and 1990s. They were basically the only vendor who offered x86 UNIX systems of a decent quality that were suitable for commercial use. In the early 1990s, Linux was still rather immature, and wouldn't become viable until several years down the road. The BSD-based systems were embroiled in a legal dispute with AT&T, which severely hindered their development at the time.
While their offerings look rather meager today, SCO systems were quite advanced for their day. SCO XENIX and SCO UNIX, and later OpenServer and ODT, were actually quite a pleasure to use. If you look at most hardware driver disks from the early to mid 1990s, such as those that came with ISA NICs or modems, you'll likely see SCO UNIX, UnixWare, and OpenServer drivers included.
In short, SCO was widely respected by a great number of system administrators. They were an engineering company at their core, and put out great products. Of course, things did change rapidly in the years leading up to the lawsuits. But many system administrators, some who may very well now be managers, had a lot of trust for SCO (or whoever was using the "SCO" name).
The SCO vs. IBM lawsuit has done quite a bit for open source.
The SCO lawsuit has validated open source and the GPL. We don't have to worry about that problem any more.
It's not at all obvious that Sun needed a Unix license. It's never been shown that they actually licensed anything that they didn't already have clear rights to. Possibly they needed to do it in order to put out "OpenSolaris", but that hasn't been demonstrated.
If someone wants to assert that Sun paid the money to finance SCO's lawsuit, I've neither seen nor heard of any specific evidence that contradicts that assertion. Of course, supporting that assertion is another matter. The only evidence to support it is, frankly, speculative. One could equally well assert that SCO was blackmailing Sun, and this was the payoff. No evidence.
All we know is that Sun paid the money, and the timing was, frankly, suspicious. Suspicion isn't proof.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
>> it's not a EULA. It's simply a contract
The FSF begs to differ on the latter.
Prof Eben Moglen is the Free Software Foundation's attorney, and of course is strongly involved in framing the GPL's legal content. And in the detailed article "The GPL Is a License, not a Contract", Prof Moglen says very clearly that:
" The GPL, however, is a true copyright license: a unilateral permission, in which no obligations are reciprocally required by the licensor."
It really doesn't get much clearer than that. Read the whole article though for Pamela Jones' typically detailed explanation. Even some lawyers on Slashdot seem to be getting that point wrong.
"The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
That is 100% false. Sun bought total rights on Unix back in the 80's. SCO had NOTHING that Sun needed. So why the investment? They claim USB and other crap, but SCO has less USB drivers than does Solaris. In fact, there was nothing that SCO had on Solaris. All in all, Sun was simply a partner in this with MS, got caught, and tried to back out like weasels
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.